NFL 2013 Part 3

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Stay classy, Seattle.[/quote]

Ouch, I didn’t see that.

I read something about it, and that is a piss poor showing by that fan. His/her tickets should be striped for a year. [/quote]

There’s drunk dumb fucks at every stadium. That is totally shitty. [/quote]

Without question.

Every team has assface fans. [/quote]

Yeah, well, you don’t see that shit at Candlestick Park. The worst I’ve ever seen is a half-hearted attempt at the wave while an injured opponent was on the ground. Most of the stadium shouted down the wave thing and in my section, it was only the opposing team’s fans (what few there were) who were participating in it.

This is the kind of shit that makes this loss easier to handle. I feel no animosity toward a fanbase and a team that is wholly without class or respect for the game or its players. I don’t feel anger toward a person who accidentally shits on my living room floor, only sorrow. Jjackrash is the lone exception. I KNOW he has zero class, but that’s because he’s a Chico State man, and none of us have class.[/quote]

haha, You know, sometimes I think you are HArbaugh posting here, lol.

I’ve never been out to a 9er game, but I imagine it is more upper crust like you said. My stepdad is a hardcore 9er fan as well, so I’ve been exposed to the franchise for a long time, and have to like what I’ve seen to be honest. I grew up on Montana and Young’s nuts like you wouldn’t believe. (Mainly because I wanted to see the Cowboys lose, lol)

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[quote]punnyguy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]punnyguy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]punnyguy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]punnyguy wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]punnyguy wrote:
Crybaby Belichick whining about Welker (big guy LOL) taking out Talib (little guy LOLLL).

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24414694/belichick-on-wes-welker-it-was-a-deliberate-play-to-take-out-aqib

“…one of the worst plays I’ve seen.”!!! LMAO -that play would’ve barely been a blip in the SF-Seattle game.

Now that Brady’s long ball accuracy is clearly continuing it’s decline (started with that Welker pass vs. Giants in SB loss imo), Belichick better ride off into the sunset to spend more time with his family (oh, wait…) before he pulls a Shanahan…well, ok maybe not that bad![/quote]

yawn…

I guess 5 rings make people jealous.
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Typical delusional Patriots fan.

Uh, that’s 5 appearances, only 3 rings. One loss with a clearly superior team vs. Giants (due to questionable coaching decisions), another loss with an equal Giants team due to Brady errant pass to Welker vs. Eli Manning laser strike to Manningham. For the record.
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Uh, I guess you don’t know shit about Belichick then. He won two rings with the Giants in 1986 and 1990. I hate the guy’s guts like everyone else, but he is literally the only defensive coordinator who could ever slow down Joe Montana with any regularity. When Montana was putting up record performances in the late 80’s, he was still only managing something like 7 points a game against Belichick-led defenses.[/quote]

I’ve always been a Giants fan. I don’t count ancillary rings from coaches.[/quote]

Obviously you don’t know what “ancillary” means. I’ll tell you.

First of all, I’m not sure you understand the part of speech or its function within a sentence, given how you’ve used it to modify “rings”. It can function as either a noun or an adjective, and I can only guess that you’ve used it as an adjective here. Ancillary as an adjective is the quality of providing NECESSARY support to an organization, system, institution, or industry. A ring is none of those things, so there is no such thing as “ancillary rings”, given that ancillary, by definition, cannot modify “rings”.

But setting that aside for a moment, let’s focus on the rest of the definition. Whether used as a noun or an adjective, ancillary implies a high degree of necessity in order to function. Once one wades through your grammatical doltishness, it becomes clear that you have implied (however unwittingly) that Belichick’s contributions were ancillary, meaning that they were integrally necessary to the function of the institution that is the NY Giants.

My point is that only a fucking mongoloid would argue that “ancillary rings” don’t count.[/quote]

What you’ve proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is that I’ve should’ve gone to Chico State instead of Princeton University for my education.

Let me ask you to explain this about Belichick: 36-44 record as Cleveland’s head coach, 5-11 in New England until Brady became the starter. Please explain to my low-IQ, doltish self -what makes Belichick any different than Shanahan? or even Marvin Lewis w/o a top 5 of all-time (yes, I actually like Brady, I think he’s where it all starts and ends for New England) QB?

I’m not even obsessed with Belichick, it’s just I watched that whole game yesterday, and to hear him essentially try to deflect, blame, whatever, being out-everythinged (illuminate my darkness by telling me if that is a word, and if so have I used it correctly) by Denver onto Welker getting knocked over by a larger more powerful Talib who then got hurt in the process is just too unbelievable not to mention is that a run on sentence?
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I have nothing to explain to you that I haven’t already. You said that Belichick had 3 rings, I correctly pointed out that he has 5, you responded by saying that you “don’t count ancillary rings”, whatever the hell that was supposed to mean, and now here we are.

I’ll tell you what makes Belichick different than the others. The others all had the chance to draft the greatest QB of his generation. Only Belichick actually did it. Now, did he envision Brady being as good as he has turned out to be? No, of course not. But the bottom line is that he selected Brady when literally the entire league didn’t even think he was worth a pick in the first 5 rounds of the draft.

I’m not arguing that Belichick is the be-all, end-all of head coaches in the modern NFL. I save that distinction for a true revolutionary of the game, Bill Walsh. I’m only pointing that your argument makes you sound as if they just give away Princeton degrees out there, given that your argument is at least partially eroded by your inability to do something as simple as use a word anywhere close to its proper context.[/quote]

I feel unrequited, as your response has blown right by my points.

I don’t usually do bombast, but when I do, I read your posts.

Plus you allow your personal biases to corrode your points of view. But as I’ve said before, I still enjoy reading your posts due to their unique nature. Keep up the good work.[/quote]

Well, when you put your points squarely in my path it’s only natural to blow past them on my way to the point that I’m making. I don’t care about Belichick’s legacy one bit and have no argument with you in that respect. It is YOU who have blown past MY point, which was simply that Belichick has 5 rings and that you’re a fool to discount the two that he won in NY, especially in light of the words you used to “describe” said rings.

Don’t all personal biases “corrode” one’s point of view, to a certain extent? Clearly, your personal biases have corroded your point of view regarding the definition of “ancillary”, its usage in a sentence, and its relationship to Belichick and the role he played in NY.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Stay classy, Seattle.[/quote]

Ouch, I didn’t see that.

I read something about it, and that is a piss poor showing by that fan. His/her tickets should be striped for a year. [/quote]

There’s drunk dumb fucks at every stadium. That is totally shitty. [/quote]

Without question.

Every team has assface fans. [/quote]

Yeah, well, you don’t see that shit at Candlestick Park. The worst I’ve ever seen is a half-hearted attempt at the wave while an injured opponent was on the ground. Most of the stadium shouted down the wave thing and in my section, it was only the opposing team’s fans (what few there were) who were participating in it.

This is the kind of shit that makes this loss easier to handle. I feel no animosity toward a fanbase and a team that is wholly without class or respect for the game or its players. I don’t feel anger toward a person who accidentally shits on my living room floor, only sorrow. Jjackrash is the lone exception. I KNOW he has zero class, but that’s because he’s a Chico State man, and none of us have class.[/quote]

haha, You know, sometimes I think you are HArbaugh posting here, lol.

I’ve never been out to a 9er game, but I imagine it is more upper crust like you said. My stepdad is a hardcore 9er fan as well, so I’ve been exposed to the franchise for a long time, and have to like what I’ve seen to be honest. I grew up on Montana and Young’s nuts like you wouldn’t believe. (Mainly because I wanted to see the Cowboys lose, lol)[/quote]

It’s actually nowhere near upper crust anymore. The ticket prices had become so cheap there, especially when they started prorating the prices rather than charge the same fee for all tickets regardless of location, that you had all sorts of loonies coming out of the woodworks to go to the games.

Fights in the stands are pretty common and there’s always some pretty colorful language being screamed in front of small children and that sort of shit. There’s been at least one stabbing in the parking lot in the last couple years (although that was involving a Raiders fan, and Niners/Raiders games are about as ugly a sporting event as anything the Pakistan/India cricket rivalry has produced).

But the Niners fans’ have seen winning football for so long now, and have watched a high-class organization go about things the right way, that there is a certain diffusion of that culture amongst the fans as well. When your greatest players are guys like Steve Young and Jerry Rice and Joe Montana and Frank Gore and players of that character, and not classless punks like Michael Irvin or Richard Sherman or Lawrence Taylor or Terrell Owens (who got run right the fuck out of town for his act), it tends to rub off on the fans as well.

Next year will see all of the newer generation of rabid Niners fans get filtered out a little bit. The fanbase is as passionate as any in sports and is also very far removed from the whole “brie and cheese” crowd of the 80’s. But the new stadium will filter out the thug element that made its way into the 'Stick the last 8-10 years and what we’ll be left with is a fanbase that has seen more great football in the last 30 years than any other fanbase in football, and with all the class that that implies.

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Question for you guys:

On (what turned out to be) the final play of the game, why did SF go for a relatively high-risk pass play, when they had 45 sec on the clock and a couple of timeouts in hand? Why not a couple of running plays to get into the red zone and burn up some clock?

Not questioning the call, just looking to improve my understanding of the game.

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I gotta say, that sherman stuff was great. Its what makes sports great, its a microcosm of society. It IS what makes the guy who runs for a TD and simply hands it to the ref more special, if they all did that devoid of loud mouths and villains it would make sports so bland. I was having trouble rooting for the niners (I stood to make alot more money than I will now because they lost) with that uber-douche as a coach, but then Sherman upped the ante with his WWF make the white lady shit her pants tirade at the end of the game. But shit I then thought again what a dick prima-donna Crabtree is/was and I loved him for it. Just a great game and great entertainment.

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I am just glad the 9ers were eliminated. The weird thing is that I like 90% of the 9ers team and consider myself a huge fan but my hatred for Kap just totally ruins it. I cant pull for those other guys because I just keep hoping for the crash and burn of Kap then I can become a fan again. What is the latest word on Bowman? That was a nasty injury and He should have been credited with the fumble recovery but I can see how that could have been missed in real time.

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Torn MCL & ACL me thinks

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Torn MCL & ACL me thinks[/quote]
That’s what sportcenter is saying.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Torn MCL & ACL me thinks[/quote]
That’s what sportcenter is saying.[/quote]
That was ugly

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[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Torn MCL & ACL me thinks[/quote]
That’s what sportcenter is saying.[/quote]
That was ugly [/quote]

Ya, it was rough.

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Woohoo SF lost! Seattle was clearly the better team. I thought that from the start.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Stay classy, Seattle.[/quote]

Ouch, I didn’t see that.

I read something about it, and that is a piss poor showing by that fan. His/her tickets should be striped for a year. [/quote]

There’s drunk dumb fucks at every stadium. That is totally shitty. [/quote]

Without question.

Every team has assface fans. [/quote]

Yeah, well, you don’t see that shit at Candlestick Park. The worst I’ve ever seen is a half-hearted attempt at the wave while an injured opponent was on the ground. Most of the stadium shouted down the wave thing and in my section, it was only the opposing team’s fans (what few there were) who were participating in it.

This is the kind of shit that makes this loss easier to handle. I feel no animosity toward a fanbase and a team that is wholly without class or respect for the game or its players. I don’t feel anger toward a person who accidentally shits on my living room floor, only sorrow. Jjackrash is the lone exception. I KNOW he has zero class, but that’s because he’s a Chico State man, and none of us have class.[/quote]

Yeah, 9ers fans are all class:

lol
The irony of you talking class is not lost on me. I am prepared for the forth coming unclassy response.

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[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Torn MCL & ACL me thinks[/quote]
That’s what sportcenter is saying.[/quote]
That was ugly [/quote]

Yeah, that was a cringe worthy play. And the fact that the ref’s did not give SF the ball after that was a travesty of reffing. If Seattle had scored on that, it would have mirred the win with controversy. So fortunately, they gave up the ball on the next play. It was the best thing to happen in light of the fact that Bowmen gave up his knee for the ball and didn’t get it.

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I gotta say, that sherman stuff was great. Its what makes sports great, its a microcosm of society. It IS what makes the guy who runs for a TD and simply hands it to the ref more special, if they all did that devoid of loud mouths and villains it would make sports so bland. I was having trouble rooting for the niners (I stood to make alot more money than I will now because they lost) with that uber-douche as a coach, but then Sherman upped the ante with his WWF make the white lady shit her pants tirade at the end of the game. But shit I then thought again what a dick prima-donna Crabtree is/was and I loved him for it. Just a great game and great entertainment.

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I never liked Shermann, I don’t like Shermann and think his antics are gay. He takes away from a great team victory by grabbing the attention all for himself. It’s fine he can ‘back it up’ as they say, for now. But he is a young fool because everybody know what humble pie and crow taste like. It’s a matter of time before he get’s humbled. And he made that taste all the more bitter by acting like a middle school bully. That’s all I intend to say about Shermann, he’s a classless dick.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I am just glad the 9ers were eliminated. The weird thing is that I like 90% of the 9ers team and consider myself a huge fan but my hatred for Kap just totally ruins it. I cant pull for those other guys because I just keep hoping for the crash and burn of Kap then I can become a fan again. What is the latest word on Bowman? That was a nasty injury and He should have been credited with the fumble recovery but I can see how that could have been missed in real time. [/quote]
I agree. I enjoy the guys on their defense though like Patrick Willis and Justin Smith. They are fun guys to watch.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Stay classy, Seattle.[/quote]

Ouch, I didn’t see that.

I read something about it, and that is a piss poor showing by that fan. His/her tickets should be striped for a year. [/quote]

There’s drunk dumb fucks at every stadium. That is totally shitty. [/quote]

Without question.

Every team has assface fans. [/quote]

Yeah, well, you don’t see that shit at Candlestick Park. The worst I’ve ever seen is a half-hearted attempt at the wave while an injured opponent was on the ground. Most of the stadium shouted down the wave thing and in my section, it was only the opposing team’s fans (what few there were) who were participating in it.

This is the kind of shit that makes this loss easier to handle. I feel no animosity toward a fanbase and a team that is wholly without class or respect for the game or its players. I don’t feel anger toward a person who accidentally shits on my living room floor, only sorrow. Jjackrash is the lone exception. I KNOW he has zero class, but that’s because he’s a Chico State man, and none of us have class.[/quote]

Yeah, 9ers fans are all class:

lol
The irony of you talking class is not lost on me. I am prepared for the forth coming unclassy response.[/quote]
He is delusional if he doesn’t think Candlestick park had some idiot fans. You can’t generalize a fan base for the actions of one or two stupid fans.

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[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Stay classy, Seattle.[/quote]

Ouch, I didn’t see that.

I read something about it, and that is a piss poor showing by that fan. His/her tickets should be striped for a year. [/quote]

There’s drunk dumb fucks at every stadium. That is totally shitty. [/quote]

Without question.

Every team has assface fans. [/quote]

Yeah, well, you don’t see that shit at Candlestick Park. The worst I’ve ever seen is a half-hearted attempt at the wave while an injured opponent was on the ground. Most of the stadium shouted down the wave thing and in my section, it was only the opposing team’s fans (what few there were) who were participating in it.

This is the kind of shit that makes this loss easier to handle. I feel no animosity toward a fanbase and a team that is wholly without class or respect for the game or its players. I don’t feel anger toward a person who accidentally shits on my living room floor, only sorrow. Jjackrash is the lone exception. I KNOW he has zero class, but that’s because he’s a Chico State man, and none of us have class.[/quote]

Yeah, 9ers fans are all class:

lol
The irony of you talking class is not lost on me. I am prepared for the forth coming unclassy response.[/quote]
He is delusional if he doesn’t think Candlestick park had some idiot fans. You can’t generalize a fan base for the actions of one or two stupid fans.[/quote]

Hey, there are all sorts of idiots at Niners games. Back when they played at Kezar in the 1960’s the fans were known for throwing beer bottles at THEIR OWN PLAYERS when they were losing. Hunter S. Thompson once said that a game at Kezar made a Raiders game look like a trip to Disneyland.

But that was decades ago. As classless as many Niners fans are, I have NEVER seen them cheer and throw shit at an injured player. And the path from the sidelines to the visitors locker room provides PLENTY of opportunity to do so. I sit right in that area and have attended something like 150 games there. Not once seen anything like that.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Woohoo SF lost! Seattle was clearly the better team. I thought that from the start.[/quote]

Still living vicariously through the accomplishments of other teams, eh? I would expect nothing less from a fan of a team whose past and present is as pathetic and innocuous as the Falcons.

While Seattle was the winner, only a troll would suggest that they were clearly the better team. I’m not a Seahawks fan, so I’m not going to bitch and moan for the next 8 years about the myriad bad calls that went against the Niners. They had opportunities of their own and they didn’t take advantage of them. The Seagulls had opportunities and they DID take advantage of them. No one mentions the bad call on the punt if the Niners don’t give up a 35-yard TD on 4th and 7.

But despite the missed opportunities, they were one play away from winning in the toughest place to play in the NFL. That is all that separates these two teams: one play. It’s a great rivalry between two hard-nosed football teams that play the way you’re supposed to play. The NFL is a better product because of these two teams. Enjoy it from afar, because the Falcons will NEVER be part of something like this. They were fucking ragdoll laughingstocks when they were the Niners’ “rival” in the old NFC West. They’re well on their way to becoming the same thing in their current division.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
What’s up with Goodell considering promoting the elimination of kicked extra points?

There’s no reason to tinker with a product this good.

Part of me agrees with you, and part of me likes this idea.

On the one hand, yes, the game is so successful right now that it would seem foolhardy to tinker with anything related to some of the basic parts of the game, in this case, scoring. I think there are some rules that could use some trimming, and if we’re going to have reviewable plays it doesn’t make sense if you can’t review certain potentially game-saving plays. Think of the shitstorm we’d be seeing/hearing right now if Seattle scores after that Bowman recovery. The NFL really dodged one right there.

However, who really would miss the extra point? Who really watches with any discernible interest? I think the idea of automatically getting 7 but still having the option of going for 1 and ending up at 6 or 8 points doesn’t really change much. It won’t really change the likelihood that a team goes for the 8th point. And although it’s extremely rare, you eliminate the chance of something like Gronkowski’s injury last year happening on a meaningless play.