NFL 2013 Part 3

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[quote]chillain wrote:
Also confused by the Gore = MORON claim.

In addition to running with vision and patience, three-down feature backs (ie. Gore in his prime) must have entire playbook and blitz pickups – both before and after audibles – absolutely down cold.

I guess constantly running out-of-bounds in ‘keep the clock moving’ situations would be moronic for RB but I kinda doubt Gore’s been guilty of that.
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Yeah, take a look at his 50-yard run toward the end of the Seahawks game in SF earlier this year. Went down at the last possible second in-bounds and got an extra yard or two out of it AND kept the clock running for the game-winning score with no time left on the clock. And he did that at around the 5-minute mark, not the 2-minute mark when it’s way more obvious to stay inbounds.

Gore is also the best pass blocking/blitz pick-up RB of his generation, and I’m not even sure the next-best feature back in that respect is even close. I’ve seen Gore show enough anticipation and awareness (i.e. intelligence) to take out multiple passrushers on the same play. I can think of some times (rare that they are) when he has been beaten by a passrusher, but I can’t think of ANY where he simply didn’t see the guy.

Is he a moron off the field? Probably. But on the field the guy is about as smart as they come.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Gore is also the best pass blocking/blitz pick-up RB of his generation, and I’m not even sure the next-best feature back in that respect is even close. [/quote]

I’d put former-Ram Steven Jackson in that top spot.

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[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Gore is also the best pass blocking/blitz pick-up RB of his generation, and I’m not even sure the next-best feature back in that respect is even close. [/quote]

I’d put former-Ram Steven Jackson in that top spot.

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If we go pound for pound, Jamaal Charles may have a claim there.

Edit: Relevant find

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I haven’t read any reports that Sherman is a locker-room cancer or that he has done anything illegal. Until either of those two reports surface, I’m happy to have him disrupting offenses as a Seahawk and not picking off Russell Wilson for some other team.

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Everyone pays the piper eventually.

That is why I never liked to tee-off on a guy with the intent of harming him, I knew eventually someone would do it to me.

As far as Sherman, had Kapernick thrown the ball better, it would have been a score. Manning can drop it on a dime, and karma is a bitch.

Think it over Richard, or should I call you “Dick” ?

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
As far as Sherman, had Kapernick thrown the ball better, it would have been a score.[/quote]

I’m still on the fence with that actually. Initially(like, live, and through the first few times I saw the replay) I thought that was the case. The ball looked underthrown, Sherman looked slightly out of position. But then it kept getting played more, and the more I saw it the more I think it only appears that way because Sherman goes to make a play on the ball as it was thrown(he plants his foot to jump really early). If that ball is more outside, I feel like Sherman wouldn’t plant so early so he could spin to make a play on the ball, and would’ve just stuck with Crab and reached between his hands like a normal pass breakup. That wouldn’t lead to an INT(huge deal in the context of the game), but I don’t think he was getting scored on.

That’s obviously all conjecture because Kaep left it short by a solid yard.

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I don’t disagree Red.

But a ball thrown by a smart QB would put that ball high and outside, where it couldn’t possibly be intercepted.

That interception thrown in the end zone, was on 1st down, and San Fran had 2 timeouts left.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Come on DB. If Crabtree is healthy, Crabtree -Boldin-Davis is as good as 90% of the league. Hell, Boldin-Davis with check downs to Gore or Hunter is still better than most. It is better than Nelson-Jones-Boykin, Smith-Lafell-Olsen, Dobson-Thompkins-Vereen or Tate-Baldwin-Miller (Good God, why doesn’t Seattle get a receiver).[/quote]

Also, Gore is done. Each year the last few years people keep saying, “Oh, this is it for Gore, he’s definitely on the way down.” I think this is the first year that those people will actually be right. He just looked slow and without the same burst after contact that he’s had the last couple years, and truth be told, everyone who has been saying that the Niners had a great run game hadn’t been watching the last 5-6 games they played. Gore didn’t do much at all.

Hunter hasn’t looked anything like his old self since his Achilles injury last year. They’re better off shitcanning him and using LaMichael James and Anthony Dixon as their 3rd and 4th backs since they can both play special teams well.

Marcus Lattimore is the make-or-break guy for the Niners next year. I expect there to be some significant upgrades across the board on offense next year, but if they can keep Gore fresh by spelling him with a legit 5 YPC type of back in Lattimore, they’re going to be a nightmare for defenses next year. One of the things that really hampered their offense this year is the fact that they simply did not run the ball efficiently at all this year, outside of Kaepernick. There were long stretches where they couldn’t get anything going on the ground at all early in the game and just abandoned the whole thing entirely. They’d do that for two games and then when they finally decided, hey we better stick with the run longer and get better at it earlier, they’d have some fucking creampuff like Jacksonville on the schedule, go apeshit for like 185 total rushing yards and everyone would think they had a dominant running game. But they weren’t dominant against anyone of any real stature.[/quote]

I agree with you about Gore, he is going down but I still think he is in the upper half of the league as far as starting backs. The biggest problem with Gore is he has always seemed to be a back that required a few carries to get in the groove and was actually better between his 10th and 20th carry than his first 10, and now that he is getting a little age on him his body is letting him down during what used to be his sweet spot.

And to Davis, with the state of TE’s in the league this year, it is fairly easy to make the case that he was a top 5 TE. You’ve got Graham and Thomas ahead of him and after that you could argue that he should be 3rd. I cant really think of one that would be ahead of him. [/quote]

The problem with Gore is that he is a MORON. He can run like hell, but he is stupid as mule shit. I will be excited to watch Lattimore play even though he is a 49er. He was amazing with the Gamecocks, I have no doubt he will excel in the NFL. The frightening thing is now SF will have a dominant running back who is not a moron. [/quote]

So why is he a moron? He can run like hell as you said, but I’ve heard commentators say he does all the other things well; blitz pick up, pass routes, check down for his QB on a blitz and such.

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So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20

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[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20[/quote]

30-27 Seattle. Yup, I said it.

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Denver by 10.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20[/quote]

30-27 Seattle. Yup, I said it. [/quote]
The Seahawks have scored 30+ points only 1 time in the last 3 and a half months while the broncos have only given up 30+ points once during that time frame.

I don’t see that happening.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20[/quote]

30-27 Seattle. Yup, I said it. [/quote]
The Seahawks have scored 30+ points only 1 time in the last 3 and a half months while the broncos have only given up 30+ points once during that time frame.

I don’t see that happening.[/quote]

True I might be high, but the Super Bowl is a different animal.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20[/quote]

30-27 Seattle. Yup, I said it. [/quote]
The Seahawks have scored 30+ points only 1 time in the last 3 and a half months while the broncos have only given up 30+ points once during that time frame.

I don’t see that happening.[/quote]

True I might be high, but the Super Bowl is a different animal. [/quote]
Expecially in that weather.

Broncos by 3

Manning is just having one of those years.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20[/quote]

30-27 Seattle. Yup, I said it. [/quote]
The Seahawks have scored 30+ points only 1 time in the last 3 and a half months while the broncos have only given up 30+ points once during that time frame.

I don’t see that happening.[/quote]

True I might be high, but the Super Bowl is a different animal. [/quote]
Expecially in that weather.

Broncos by 3

Manning is just having one of those years.[/quote]

I predict a Manning pick in the last 3 minutes that seals the deal for Seattle.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20[/quote]

30-27 Seattle. Yup, I said it. [/quote]
The Seahawks have scored 30+ points only 1 time in the last 3 and a half months while the broncos have only given up 30+ points once during that time frame.

I don’t see that happening.[/quote]

True I might be high, but the Super Bowl is a different animal. [/quote]
Expecially in that weather.

Broncos by 3

Manning is just having one of those years.[/quote]

I predict a Manning pick in the last 3 minutes that seals the deal for Seattle. [/quote]

I dont think so, IMO this is the first time Manning has these TYPES of receivers in his career and the reason why he had the record breaking year.

I got no dog in this hunt but he is just killing it this year.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20[/quote]

30-27 Seattle. Yup, I said it. [/quote]
The Seahawks have scored 30+ points only 1 time in the last 3 and a half months while the broncos have only given up 30+ points once during that time frame.

I don’t see that happening.[/quote]

True I might be high, but the Super Bowl is a different animal. [/quote]
Expecially in that weather.

Broncos by 3

Manning is just having one of those years.[/quote]

I predict a Manning pick in the last 3 minutes that seals the deal for Seattle. [/quote]

I would love this, since I want Denver to lose more then I want Seattle to win. But for that same reason that’s why If I was putting money on a winner it would be Denver.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
So any predictions on scores for the game. I’m gonna go Denver 24 Sea 20[/quote]

30-27 Seattle. Yup, I said it. [/quote]
The Seahawks have scored 30+ points only 1 time in the last 3 and a half months while the broncos have only given up 30+ points once during that time frame.

I don’t see that happening.[/quote]

True I might be high, but the Super Bowl is a different animal. [/quote]
Expecially in that weather.

Broncos by 3

Manning is just having one of those years.[/quote]

I predict a Manning pick in the last 3 minutes that seals the deal for Seattle. [/quote]

I dont think so, IMO this is the first time Manning has these TYPES of receivers in his career and the reason why he had the record breaking year.

I got no dog in this hunt but he is just killing it this year. [/quote]

True, but he’s had great years in the past that have ended in disappointment.

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This game couldn’t come fast enough I fucking hate the Bullshit leading up to it…