NFL 2011 Season Starts Now

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Sproles, at that size, has about met his shelf life I figure. Damn fun back to watch but if he’s gotta go I’m not hearbroken. Best of luck to him though.

DJ who do you mean by “what’s his face?”
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Tired today, brain froze up, Alstot clone Hillis[/quote]

Yeah he’s a tough cat[/quote]

Oh shit he’s on the cover of Madden 2012. Damn, Dogpound needs run support bigtime hahahaaa

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Sproles, at that size, has about met his shelf life I figure. Damn fun back to watch but if he’s gotta go I’m not hearbroken. Best of luck to him though.

DJ who do you mean by “what’s his face?”
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Tired today, brain froze up, Alstot clone Hillis[/quote]

Yeah he’s a tough cat[/quote]

Oh shit he’s on the cover of Madden 2012. Damn, Dogpound needs run support bigtime hahahaaa

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Oh shit that means he will have a season ending injury at some point this year.

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
heard texans and 49ers two front runners for nsahhasdfhawefawef… [/quote]

I hope SF can get him. He likes the bay area and is REAAAAAALLY involved in the community up there. I bet he would love to not have to move and stay involved with all the programs that he’s in… that would make our defense NASTY! Adding a shut down corner to the pass rush we already have? wheeeeeeeeeew![/quote]

Houston Texas, no state income tax, MUCH lower cost of living and 16 million a year? [/quote]

but texas is so lame and hot

:slight_smile:

hahaha I understand the no income tax/lower cost of living thing… but there is a lot to be said for not having to move halfway across the country, buy a new house, new furniture, find a new school for your kids (I think he’s married with kids?)

those are the reasons why i would think he would want to stay “home” in the bay area… he did go to school at Cal if I recall correctly.

@AdamSchefterAdam Schefter

Bills reach agreement with former Jets WR Brad Smith on a 4-yr, $15 million deal.

@JasonLaCanforaJason La Canfora

Another trade goes down as expected - Kolb to AZ for DRC and a draft pick. Orton remains available

Im curious to see how Kolb does down there in AZ. should be interesting.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
heard texans and 49ers two front runners for nsahhasdfhawefawef… [/quote]

I hope SF can get him. He likes the bay area and is REAAAAAALLY involved in the community up there. I bet he would love to not have to move and stay involved with all the programs that he’s in… that would make our defense NASTY! Adding a shut down corner to the pass rush we already have? wheeeeeeeeeew![/quote]

Houston Texas, no state income tax, MUCH lower cost of living and 16 million a year? [/quote]

but texas is so lame and hot

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Well its Hot but I dont know about lame, I live in the same town as PX. :slight_smile:

You know I have never been father West than New Mexico, so honestly can not comment about life in Cali.

[quote]gregron wrote:
Im curious to see how Kolb does down there in AZ. should be interesting.
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Did you get my email?

I am also he does have Fitz to throw to so that has to make him smile.

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Im curious to see how Kolb does down there in AZ. should be interesting.
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Did you get my email?

I am also he does have Fitz to throw to so that has to make him smile.[/quote]

yeah I got your email/emails… I’ve been running around all morning getting ready for a weekend trip up to Lake tahoe so I’ve been busy… been keeping the NFL updates on my phone though :slight_smile: Cant get enough Football talk.

I’ll respond/sign up though… probably wont be till after this weekend cause I’m gonna be busy with A LOT of wedding planning. Hopefully my brain doesnt explode.

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Some reason Steelers never come off a SB year and do real well. [/quote]

Yes, usually, but that was when they WON and they lost last year. Hopefully that is enough motivation for them not to continue the same pattern.

My SB Match up: Jets 31 Packers 30

AFC

  1. Steelers 13-3…Colts 27 Ravens 19 - Jets 33 Chiefs 24
  2. Patriots 13-3…Jets 20 Steelers 16 - Patriots 34 Colts 31
  3. Colts 11-5…Jets 28 Patriots 27
  4. Chiefs 10-6
  5. Jets 12-4
  6. Ravens 11-5

NFC

  1. Packers 12-4…Saints 20 Bears 17 - Rams 38 Giants 31
  2. Eagles 11-5…Packers 42 Rams 27 - Saints 28 Eagles 24
  3. Saints 11-5…Packers 41 Saints 33
  4. Rams 9-7
  5. Giants 10-6
  6. Bears 11-5

don’t see the jets contending for the SB… playoffs for sure… SB don’t think so…

[quote]S C 0 0 Z E wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Some reason Steelers never come off a SB year and do real well. [/quote]

Yes, usually, but that was when they WON and they lost last year. Hopefully that is enough motivation for them not to continue the same pattern.

My SB Match up: Jets 31 Packers 30

AFC

  1. Steelers 13-3…Colts 27 Ravens 19 - Jets 33 Chiefs 24
  2. Patriots 13-3…Jets 20 Steelers 16 - Patriots 34 Colts 31
  3. Colts 11-5…Jets 28 Patriots 27
  4. Chiefs 10-6
  5. Jets 12-4
  6. Ravens 11-5

NFC

  1. Packers 12-4…Saints 20 Bears 17 - Rams 38 Giants 31
  2. Eagles 11-5…Packers 42 Rams 27 - Saints 28 Eagles 24
  3. Saints 11-5…Packers 41 Saints 33
  4. Rams 9-7
  5. Giants 10-6
  6. Bears 11-5
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Gotta swap the bears out with Detroit this year man…

Kolb to AZ

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]S C 0 0 Z E wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Some reason Steelers never come off a SB year and do real well. [/quote]

Yes, usually, but that was when they WON and they lost last year. Hopefully that is enough motivation for them not to continue the same pattern.

My SB Match up: Jets 31 Packers 30

AFC

  1. Steelers 13-3…Colts 27 Ravens 19 - Jets 33 Chiefs 24
  2. Patriots 13-3…Jets 20 Steelers 16 - Patriots 34 Colts 31
  3. Colts 11-5…Jets 28 Patriots 27
  4. Chiefs 10-6
  5. Jets 12-4
  6. Ravens 11-5

NFC

  1. Packers 12-4…Saints 20 Bears 17 - Rams 38 Giants 31
  2. Eagles 11-5…Packers 42 Rams 27 - Saints 28 Eagles 24
  3. Saints 11-5…Packers 41 Saints 33
  4. Rams 9-7
  5. Giants 10-6
  6. Bears 11-5
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Gotta swap the bears out with Detroit this year man…
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So Brad you think this is the year? Stafford healthy and a stout DL.
No faith in McNabb? Or Cutler?

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
heard texans and 49ers two front runners for nsahhasdfhawefawef… [/quote]

I hope SF can get him. He likes the bay area and is REAAAAAALLY involved in the community up there. I bet he would love to not have to move and stay involved with all the programs that he’s in… that would make our defense NASTY! Adding a shut down corner to the pass rush we already have? wheeeeeeeeeew![/quote]

Houston Texas, no state income tax, MUCH lower cost of living and 16 million a year? [/quote]

I’ll preface and qualify this by saying that I’m completely biased as a blatant Jets nuthugging fan, but I think that regarding Asomugha I’d like to offer some counter arguments.

So, while you make good points in terms of the finances, I’d venture to say that you’re missing out on the intangibles.

  1. The draw of NY for a big name player is hard to put a price tag on. If you’ve been to this City and had it welcome you the way Nnamdi would be welcomed, it’s very, very feasible that he’d take less money.

  2. Everyone wants to be part of a championship team. He’s 30 and I think that despite how beneficial he’d be for the Texans, they aren’t likely to win a Super Bow during his tenure there.

  3. Further to that, everyone wants to be a part of something great. The pairing of Nnamdi and Revis would be the take of football this season, next season, and for many seasons to come. Paired with Rex’s already incredible defense and you’d have something truly special. No, I’m not saying they’re going to knock of the 85 Bears as the greatest D of all time, but I certainly think that they’d be capable of creating and maintaining the best defense in recent history.

  4. When in discussion about the NY draw, Asomugha has mentioned post-career aspirations. He wants to act, and being a Big Name in the Big City has more value and visibility, which he’d need.

These things factor in for professional athletes–a lot.

14 and the dangling carrot of a potential Super Bowl million instead of 16 million probably seems like a pretty good deal.

If Nnamdi doesn’t go to the Jets, it’ll because they simply can’t come close to the Texans offer.

[quote]John Romaniello wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
heard texans and 49ers two front runners for nsahhasdfhawefawef… [/quote]

I hope SF can get him. He likes the bay area and is REAAAAAALLY involved in the community up there. I bet he would love to not have to move and stay involved with all the programs that he’s in… that would make our defense NASTY! Adding a shut down corner to the pass rush we already have? wheeeeeeeeeew![/quote]

Houston Texas, no state income tax, MUCH lower cost of living and 16 million a year? [/quote]

I’ll preface and qualify this by saying that I’m completely biased as a blatant Jets nuthugging fan, but I think that regarding Asomugha I’d like to offer some counter arguments.

So, while you make good points in terms of the finances, I’d venture to say that you’re missing out on the intangibles.

  1. The draw of NY for a big name player is hard to put a price tag on. If you’ve been to this City and had it welcome you the way Nnamdi would be welcomed, it’s very, very feasible that he’d take less money.

  2. Everyone wants to be part of a championship team. He’s 30 and I think that despite how beneficial he’d be for the Texans, they aren’t likely to win a Super Bow during his tenure there.

  3. Further to that, everyone wants to be a part of something great. The pairing of Nnamdi and Revis would be the take of football this season, next season, and for many seasons to come. Paired with Rex’s already incredible defense and you’d have something truly special. No, I’m not saying they’re going to knock of the 85 Bears as the greatest D of all time, but I certainly think that they’d be capable of creating and maintaining the best defense in recent history.

  4. When in discussion about the NY draw, Asomugha has mentioned post-career aspirations. He wants to act, and being a Big Name in the Big City has more value and visibility, which he’d need.

These things factor in for professional athletes–a lot.

14 and the dangling carrot of a potential Super Bowl million instead of 16 million probably seems like a pretty good deal.

If Nnamdi doesn’t go to the Jets, it’ll because they simply can’t come close to the Texans offer.[/quote]

Yep those are all the reason that I think a lot of people were saying he would go there. I sure cannot argue those points. But I can hear his lawyer/agent now countering all those points BECAUSE the agent will get more money.

I think as a football fan would be awesome to see him go to the Jets, however I think that after a little negotiations he goes for the bigger money.

They only work 6 months out of the year, he can work on his acting in the off season.

I dont think they can come close to the Texans offer is my point. If you made 16 million a year no state income tax vs 12 million a year with a state income tax what is the true difference? I dont know what NY state tax is.

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]John Romaniello wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
heard texans and 49ers two front runners for nsahhasdfhawefawef… [/quote]

I hope SF can get him. He likes the bay area and is REAAAAAALLY involved in the community up there. I bet he would love to not have to move and stay involved with all the programs that he’s in… that would make our defense NASTY! Adding a shut down corner to the pass rush we already have? wheeeeeeeeeew![/quote]

Houston Texas, no state income tax, MUCH lower cost of living and 16 million a year? [/quote]

I’ll preface and qualify this by saying that I’m completely biased as a blatant Jets nuthugging fan, but I think that regarding Asomugha I’d like to offer some counter arguments.

So, while you make good points in terms of the finances, I’d venture to say that you’re missing out on the intangibles.

  1. The draw of NY for a big name player is hard to put a price tag on. If you’ve been to this City and had it welcome you the way Nnamdi would be welcomed, it’s very, very feasible that he’d take less money.

  2. Everyone wants to be part of a championship team. He’s 30 and I think that despite how beneficial he’d be for the Texans, they aren’t likely to win a Super Bow during his tenure there.

  3. Further to that, everyone wants to be a part of something great. The pairing of Nnamdi and Revis would be the take of football this season, next season, and for many seasons to come. Paired with Rex’s already incredible defense and you’d have something truly special. No, I’m not saying they’re going to knock of the 85 Bears as the greatest D of all time, but I certainly think that they’d be capable of creating and maintaining the best defense in recent history.

  4. When in discussion about the NY draw, Asomugha has mentioned post-career aspirations. He wants to act, and being a Big Name in the Big City has more value and visibility, which he’d need.

These things factor in for professional athletes–a lot.

14 and the dangling carrot of a potential Super Bowl million instead of 16 million probably seems like a pretty good deal.

If Nnamdi doesn’t go to the Jets, it’ll because they simply can’t come close to the Texans offer.[/quote]

Yep those are all the reason that I think a lot of people were saying he would go there. I sure cannot argue those points. But I can hear his lawyer/agent now countering all those points BECAUSE the agent will get more money.

I think as a football fan would be awesome to see him go to the Jets, however I think that after a little negotiations he goes for the bigger money.

They only work 6 months out of the year, he can work on his acting in the off season.

I dont think they can come close to the Texans offer is my point. If you made 16 million a year no state income tax vs 12 million a year with a state income tax what is the true difference? I dont know what NY state tax is.
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Well, let me put it to you this way.

I have the ability to live a completely mobile lifestyle, as 95% of my income is from writing, my online coaching, and sales of books, etc; I can live anywhere in the country and still do exactly what I do.

My best friend is in the same position as far as his mobility and source of income. He chooses to live in Tampa, Florida, where there is no state income tax. The cost of living is also less than half of NYC in terms of rents, mortgages, and property tax, and about 30% cheaper in terms of everything else.

Essentially, every dollar my boy earns has twice the purchasing power where he lives.

The “smart” move would be for me to pack my bags and move to a place with no income tax and a lower cost of living.

Instead, I choose to live in the most expensive City in the world and suffer financial rape at every turn simply because, YES, New York City IS that impressive, that great, and that much of a draw.

The connections I make here and the advantages of being part of this community–to me–FAR outweigh the financial incentive of living anywhere else in the world, because of how those connections and advantages can (and do) help me move into stuff like TV.

Of course, I don’t want to turn this into a discussion about me, so to bring it back to Nnamdi, I think it’s pretty easy to see how he’d be experiencing my argument on a much grander scale, and I think that for people with aspirations above just being a million-dollar athlete…well, we’ll see.

But I think that it’s possible he’d take as much as a 15% cut to be here.

[quote]John Romaniello wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]John Romaniello wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
heard texans and 49ers two front runners for nsahhasdfhawefawef… [/quote]

I hope SF can get him. He likes the bay area and is REAAAAAALLY involved in the community up there. I bet he would love to not have to move and stay involved with all the programs that he’s in… that would make our defense NASTY! Adding a shut down corner to the pass rush we already have? wheeeeeeeeeew![/quote]

Houston Texas, no state income tax, MUCH lower cost of living and 16 million a year? [/quote]

I’ll preface and qualify this by saying that I’m completely biased as a blatant Jets nuthugging fan, but I think that regarding Asomugha I’d like to offer some counter arguments.

So, while you make good points in terms of the finances, I’d venture to say that you’re missing out on the intangibles.

  1. The draw of NY for a big name player is hard to put a price tag on. If you’ve been to this City and had it welcome you the way Nnamdi would be welcomed, it’s very, very feasible that he’d take less money.

  2. Everyone wants to be part of a championship team. He’s 30 and I think that despite how beneficial he’d be for the Texans, they aren’t likely to win a Super Bow during his tenure there.

  3. Further to that, everyone wants to be a part of something great. The pairing of Nnamdi and Revis would be the take of football this season, next season, and for many seasons to come. Paired with Rex’s already incredible defense and you’d have something truly special. No, I’m not saying they’re going to knock of the 85 Bears as the greatest D of all time, but I certainly think that they’d be capable of creating and maintaining the best defense in recent history.

  4. When in discussion about the NY draw, Asomugha has mentioned post-career aspirations. He wants to act, and being a Big Name in the Big City has more value and visibility, which he’d need.

These things factor in for professional athletes–a lot.

14 and the dangling carrot of a potential Super Bowl million instead of 16 million probably seems like a pretty good deal.

If Nnamdi doesn’t go to the Jets, it’ll because they simply can’t come close to the Texans offer.[/quote]

Yep those are all the reason that I think a lot of people were saying he would go there. I sure cannot argue those points. But I can hear his lawyer/agent now countering all those points BECAUSE the agent will get more money.

I think as a football fan would be awesome to see him go to the Jets, however I think that after a little negotiations he goes for the bigger money.

They only work 6 months out of the year, he can work on his acting in the off season.

I dont think they can come close to the Texans offer is my point. If you made 16 million a year no state income tax vs 12 million a year with a state income tax what is the true difference? I dont know what NY state tax is.
[/quote]

Well, let me put it to you this way.

I have the ability to live a completely mobile lifestyle, as 95% of my income is from writing, my online coaching, and sales of books, etc; I can live anywhere in the country and still do exactly what I do.

My best friend is in the same position as far as his mobility and source of income. He chooses to live in Tampa, Florida, where there is no state income tax. The cost of living is also less than half of NYC in terms of rents, mortgages, and property tax, and about 30% cheaper in terms of everything else.

Essentially, every dollar my boy earns has twice the purchasing power where he lives.

The “smart” move would be for me to pack my bags and move to a place with no income tax and a lower cost of living.

Instead, I choose to live in the most expensive City in the world and suffer financial rape at every turn simply because, YES, New York City IS that impressive, that great, and that much of a draw.

The connections I make here and the advantages of being part of this community–to me–FAR outweigh the financial incentive of living anywhere else in the world, because of how those connections and advantages can (and do) help me move into stuff like TV.

Of course, I don’t want to turn this into a discussion about me, so to bring it back to Nnamdi, I think it’s pretty easy to see how he’d be experiencing my argument on a much grander scale, and I think that for people with aspirations above just being a million-dollar athlete…well, we’ll see.

But I think that it’s possible he’d take as much as a 15% cut to be here.[/quote]

Thanks John that actually gives an awesome insight that a lot of people like myself have never considered. Hell I have been raising kids for the past 20 years since I was 17, there were no options for me so I had blinders on.

So with that thought bringing it back to Nnamdi where does Dallas fit into that? From what I have read Dallas is basically like the New York of the south, if he had a choice between the Jets and Dallas?

Hey if you get in TV dont forget us here in the NFL thread and the book threads. :slight_smile:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]S C 0 0 Z E wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Some reason Steelers never come off a SB year and do real well. [/quote]

Yes, usually, but that was when they WON and they lost last year. Hopefully that is enough motivation for them not to continue the same pattern.

My SB Match up: Jets 31 Packers 30

AFC

  1. Steelers 13-3…Colts 27 Ravens 19 - Jets 33 Chiefs 24
  2. Patriots 13-3…Jets 20 Steelers 16 - Patriots 34 Colts 31
  3. Colts 11-5…Jets 28 Patriots 27
  4. Chiefs 10-6
  5. Jets 12-4
  6. Ravens 11-5

NFC

  1. Packers 12-4…Saints 20 Bears 17 - Rams 38 Giants 31
  2. Eagles 11-5…Packers 42 Rams 27 - Saints 28 Eagles 24
  3. Saints 11-5…Packers 41 Saints 33
  4. Rams 9-7
  5. Giants 10-6
  6. Bears 11-5
    [/quote]

Gotta swap the bears out with Detroit this year man…
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So Brad you think this is the year? Stafford healthy and a stout DL.
No faith in McNabb? Or Cutler?[/quote]

DJ my Lions pick is kind of a homer pick, I grew up in Michigan.

However,

Should Stafford stay healthy the rest of the NFC North is going to have thier hands full. Stafford, Best, Megatron on offense in the skill positions. Suh and all the like on D?

Yeah, the North is going to be shaped a little bit different this year.

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]S C 0 0 Z E wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Some reason Steelers never come off a SB year and do real well. [/quote]

Yes, usually, but that was when they WON and they lost last year. Hopefully that is enough motivation for them not to continue the same pattern.

My SB Match up: Jets 31 Packers 30

AFC

  1. Steelers 13-3…Colts 27 Ravens 19 - Jets 33 Chiefs 24
  2. Patriots 13-3…Jets 20 Steelers 16 - Patriots 34 Colts 31
  3. Colts 11-5…Jets 28 Patriots 27
  4. Chiefs 10-6
  5. Jets 12-4
  6. Ravens 11-5

NFC

  1. Packers 12-4…Saints 20 Bears 17 - Rams 38 Giants 31
  2. Eagles 11-5…Packers 42 Rams 27 - Saints 28 Eagles 24
  3. Saints 11-5…Packers 41 Saints 33
  4. Rams 9-7
  5. Giants 10-6
  6. Bears 11-5
    [/quote]

Gotta swap the bears out with Detroit this year man…
[/quote]

So Brad you think this is the year? Stafford healthy and a stout DL.
No faith in McNabb? Or Cutler?[/quote]

DJ my Lions pick is kind of a homer pick, I grew up in Michigan.

However,

Should Stafford stay healthy the rest of the NFC North is going to have thier hands full. Stafford, Best, Megatron on offense in the skill positions. Suh and all the like on D?

Yeah, the North is going to be shaped a little bit different this year.
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