[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]garcia1970 wrote:
Anyhoo, I love what these guys have done. The Wikileaks thing was awsome and totally exposed our military machine. Fuck them. Freaking war criminals.
Fight the power![/quote]
Ah, yes uncritical and general disobedience to authority. I have to say this is likely the product of the protestant reformation.[/quote]
I thought it was Vatican 2[/quote]
Vatican 2 is wholesome.
[quote]ThroneOfLunacy wrote:
The reason they targeted MasterCard was because MasterCard stopped allowing contributions to Wikileaks. I think their (Anonymous) actions were legitimate. I believe the truth is more important than any organization. If you censor Wikileaks, you censor the truth - and one doesn’t censor the truth unless one has something to hide. [/quote]
I believe that you think Anon’s actions were legitimate. By ‘legitimate’, I believe you mean ‘justified’, so I’ll respond to that.
The legitimacy of Anon’s actions, according to you, relies on the positive right of Wikileaks to Mastercards services, which is to say, Mastercard must deliver their services to Wikileaks regardless of outcome. Regardless of economic, political, or temporal costs, Mastercard MUST deliver services to Wikileaks.
This is retarded. Business is based on voluntary trade*. When one side is coerced, that is no longer trade. Surely you’re not a fan of coercion.
If you are a fan of coercion ‘only in certain instances’, know that no one else will ever truly agree with you as to the full range of instances where coercion is acceptable
Now, as to the pedestal you put Wikileaks on… ‘The Truth’… Don’t. Saying its okay to commit theft and fraud ‘in defense of the Truth’ is a lot like saying its okay to kill for your God, only martyrs don’t expect to escape the consequences of temporal justice.
Also, Wikileaks doesn’t have a monopoly on Truth. Or even majority share.
*utilities, SOE’s exempt.
I have the strangest feeling this was penned by Thomas Friedman. That says more about his perspective than yours.
I think its great that people your age don’t like being lied to and exploited. I think its great you guys want to join the political process. I think its great you’re using the internet to gather support, organize, monetize, get together and make a difference. I think its great that you care about your world.
Perhaps you should spend your time voting and volunteering rather than defending criminals who commit terrorism against private businesses because they don’t like them.
These guys are assclowns. It is like burning a building in protest. As soon as you start using these techniques your cause doesn’t matter but your crime does.
I think there is a place in the world for these people , they may turn out to be ass clowns , but I think they are doing good now
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]ThroneOfLunacy wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]ThroneOfLunacy wrote:
So sometimes… doing the right thing, isn’t doing what’s legal.[/quote]
You mean nothing like when Stalin thought he was doing the right thing by starving Ukrainian people to the point they would kill and cook their own children? Because you know the right thing to do for your political movement is sometimes screw with people on a major scale so they understand your seriousness and if they don’t obey to your will, you will attempt to eradicate them.
Ah, the joy of being ignorant of docility.[/quote]
You’re comparing me to Stalin? Really?
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Yes, in like but not degree.[/quote]
Not sure if srs.