New Movie Trailers and Spoilers

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

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Man I really hope Snyder can make this work, but thinking it through I really don’t know. I have no doubt it will be his best film yet, and under Nolan’s guidance it will definitely hold up, but I think we’re going to be left wishing there was just a little more to make it perfect. I sincerely hope we’re not, but something tells me there are things here holding it back from being truly spectacular.

Not long left now, not long left at all. I hope I’m wrong, and this does become one of the best Superman films of all time, I really hope I’m wrong.[/quote]

I think he’s nailed it, in making a great movie that is. Wether or not that means it’s a great Superman movie I don’t give a shit.

I loved Watchmen, so if this turns out better than that I will be most impressed.

PS All they gotta do is show an after credits scene where superman flys the world in search of someone unkown to the audience, comes to an apartment door and opens it to a darkened figure…and says…“We need you Bruce” and the camera shows Christain Bale.

That’s it, lights out, they’ve done it .[/quote]

Yeah I mean, the cast is brilliant, the cinematography looks brilliant, the effects look brilliant, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen Snyder reeeally hit his stride and create something that people will remember for decades. Not to mention this being a Superman film in and of itself, unless Zod vaporises mounds of citizens and crushes a dog’s skull, most of the grittiness of his previous films won’t be here, and I feel that’s where he works best. Of course Nolan is behind this and he has film-making down to the most precise art form, but I think that Snyder left to his own devices might cave under the pressure and lean for more of that effects hook than really taking Superman and Zod’s emotions deep and really exploring Superman and Lois Lane outside of a mushy love circle.

That makes it sound like I think it will be way worse than I actually expect it to be, I think it will be brilliant, I just don’t know if it will really thoroughly justify it’s hype to the extent that Nolan’s Batman films (at least the last two) have. I want it to be as precise and pleasing as The Dark Knight, and be more than the “Batman Begins” of the Superman revival. I mean we don’t have long and I could be mistaken, he could take this right down to the final details, but I guess it’s impossible for me to know until a couple weeks from now.[/quote]

The Dark Knight Rises did not live up to the hype. The Dark Knight only got hyped so much because Heath Ledger had died before the movie being released. Of course the movie was outstanding and lived up to the hype. Also, Batman Begins was a great movie and if the Man of Steel surpasses that, it will be a great success. [/quote]

Actually I guess I do stand corrected there, Rises could have been a little better than it turned out to be, but by a reasonably small margin of course, because it’s already incredibly good. However it was not on the same pedestal The Dark Knight is on, my apologies. In saying that, I’ve not met anyone face to face that wasn’t very pleased with the result.

I do enjoy Batman Begins greatly and I loved the film, but there was a little bit left to be desired, especially in comparison with how The Dark Knight turned out. It’s not a view that if it were around the quality of “Batman Begins” it would be a bad film, but just that it would not be a masterpiece like “The Dark Knight”, and while the difference is nothing that will throw it into the other end of the spectrum, it will be vaguely disappointing if it happens to turn out that way. If it did happen to become that, I would still applaud Snyder’s result and praise the film to no end, but there’d always be that nagging feeling that it won’t quite have hit the Super-film “Hall Of Fame”.

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Did you want to say something Mak, cat got your tongue?

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Did you want to say something Mak, cat got your tongue?[/quote]

No, just fixing that abortion of a quote train.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Did you want to say something Mak, cat got your tongue?[/quote]

No, just fixing that abortion of a quote train.[/quote]

How do you fix it when it messes up like that? Just to avoid it in future.

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Did you want to say something Mak, cat got your tongue?[/quote]

No, just fixing that abortion of a quote train.[/quote]

How do you fix it when it messes up like that? Just to avoid it in future.[/quote]

URL links need a line break, so at the end of a YouTube link, hit enter twice.

Enjoy

[quote]Makavali wrote:

Enjoy[/quote]

Between this and the new trailer released today I feel like vie seen the Movie. AND IT WAS AWESOME!!!

I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good.

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good. [/quote]

Not sure why you would compare the two.

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good. [/quote]

Not sure why you would compare the two.[/quote]

Superhero origin movie both fronted in some way by Christopher Nolan, brought out in the early 21st century and both involved in the same cinema-phase of Superhero films of these decades?

Of course they’re two different kinds of hero with two different legacies, attributes and circumstances (and directors), but if it’s going to have to be compared to something, the Batman series isn’t a bad choice.

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good. [/quote]

Not sure why you would compare the two.[/quote]

Superhero origin movie both fronted in some way by Christopher Nolan, brought out in the early 21st century and both involved in the same cinema-phase of Superhero films of these decades?

Of course they’re two different kinds of hero with two different legacies, attributes and circumstances (and directors), but if it’s going to have to be compared to something, the Batman series isn’t a bad choice.[/quote]

The only way to compare the two is are they good or badly made. I have not seen anyone try to compare the Chris Reeve Superman to the Michael Keaton Batman movie. They have always had different vibes.

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good. [/quote]

Not sure why you would compare the two.[/quote]

Superhero origin movie both fronted in some way by Christopher Nolan, brought out in the early 21st century and both involved in the same cinema-phase of Superhero films of these decades?

Of course they’re two different kinds of hero with two different legacies, attributes and circumstances (and directors), but if it’s going to have to be compared to something, the Batman series isn’t a bad choice.[/quote]

The only way to compare the two is are they good or badly made. I have not seen anyone try to compare the Chris Reeve Superman to the Michael Keaton Batman movie. They have always had different vibes. [/quote]

I wouldn’t mind somebody using Batman Begins/The Dark Knight as reference points to try and triangulate where Man Of Steel fits into the spectrum, I’m not so much arguing their differences as that this is as close as you might get to relation. Of course you could argue the Reeve’s Superman just by virtue of being another Superman film and all that encompasses that, but with CGI being a big part of Snyder’s hand and the small margin in the time-frame, the gap starts to widen considerably where cinematography is concerned. I’ve not seen the review in question as of yet and so I can’t comment on the respectability of it’s comparison, but I would have to guess that it would be the author’s prime reasoning for making that one in particular. At this point I wouldn’t expect comparisons to be for the purpose of distinguishing good/bad, but more towards good/great, however small that margin may be if we look outside the box (Begins/Dark Knight).

And just because there is a first time for everything, Reeve’s original “Superman” beats Keaton’s original “Batman” hands down. (“Batman Returns” also, even though I enjoyed it considerably more.)

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good. [/quote]

Not sure why you would compare the two.[/quote]

Superhero origin movie both fronted in some way by Christopher Nolan, brought out in the early 21st century and both involved in the same cinema-phase of Superhero films of these decades?

Of course they’re two different kinds of hero with two different legacies, attributes and circumstances (and directors), but if it’s going to have to be compared to something, the Batman series isn’t a bad choice.[/quote]

The only way to compare the two is are they good or badly made. I have not seen anyone try to compare the Chris Reeve Superman to the Michael Keaton
Batman movie. They have always had different vibes. [/quote]

I wouldn’t mind somebody using Batman Begins/The Dark Knight as reference points to try and triangulate where Man Of Steel fits into the spectrum, I’m not so much arguing their differences as that this is as close as you might get to relation. Of course you could argue the Reeve’s Superman just by virtue of being another Superman film and all that encompasses that, but with CGI being a big part of Snyder’s hand and the small margin in the time-frame, the gap starts to widen considerably where cinematography is concerned. I’ve not seen the review in question as of yet and so I can’t comment on the respectability of it’s comparison, but I would have to guess that it would be the author’s prime reasoning for making that one in particular. At this point I wouldn’t expect comparisons to be for the purpose of distinguishing good/bad, but more towards good/great, however small that margin may be if we look outside the box
(Begins/Dark Knight).

And just because there is a first time for everything, Reeve’s original “Superman” beats Keaton’s original “Batman” hands down. (“Batman Returns” also, even though I enjoyed it considerably more.)[/quote]

WHAT??? PX is this you??? X would pick Reeves Supes over Keaton’s Bat. Hahahahahah. Wow, well just on acting the character well I must pick Keaton He did a damn good job. Reeves to me just had the cosmetics down ( size, looks).

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good. [/quote]

Not sure why you would compare the two.[/quote]

Superhero origin movie both fronted in some way by Christopher Nolan, brought out in the early 21st century and both involved in the same cinema-phase of Superhero films of these decades?

Of course they’re two different kinds of hero with two different legacies, attributes and circumstances (and directors), but if it’s going to have to be compared to something, the Batman series isn’t a bad choice.[/quote]

The only way to compare the two is are they good or badly made. I have not seen anyone try to compare the Chris Reeve Superman to the Michael Keaton
Batman movie. They have always had different vibes. [/quote]

I wouldn’t mind somebody using Batman Begins/The Dark Knight as reference points to try and triangulate where Man Of Steel fits into the spectrum, I’m not so much arguing their differences as that this is as close as you might get to relation. Of course you could argue the Reeve’s Superman just by virtue of being another Superman film and all that encompasses that, but with CGI being a big part of Snyder’s hand and the small margin in the time-frame, the gap starts to widen considerably where cinematography is concerned. I’ve not seen the review in question as of yet and so I can’t comment on the respectability of it’s comparison, but I would have to guess that it would be the author’s prime reasoning for making that one in particular. At this point I wouldn’t expect comparisons to be for the purpose of distinguishing good/bad, but more towards good/great, however small that margin may be if we look outside the box
(Begins/Dark Knight).

And just because there is a first time for everything, Reeve’s original “Superman” beats Keaton’s original “Batman” hands down. (“Batman Returns” also, even though I enjoyed it considerably more.)[/quote]

WHAT??? PX is this you??? X would pick Reeves Supes over Keaton’s Bat. Hahahahahah. Wow, well just on acting the character well I must pick Keaton He did a damn good job. Reeves to me just had the cosmetics down ( size, looks).[/quote]

Keaton was wonderful, as was Nicholson, the problem is that everybody else was dragging it down into the waters. I like the Burton “nightmare” vibe running through it, but Nicholson was way too good for the rest of the film to really have much chance keeping up with him. There’ll be a fair few people that won’t recognise Keaton in his Batman role, but there’s not one person this side of Russia that won’t remember Reeves’ (also perfectly cast) Superman portrayals. Batman was a little bland at times and the plot wasn’t quite so wonderful as I would have hoped, but Superman had everything down to a T, whether it be humour, love relations, being delightfully fun or just expressing the perfect ideal of what Superman should be as both a man and icon. Yes it’s a little cheesy and it doesn’t age quite as well as people may have hoped, but I’ll still take it over “Batman” for enjoyment’s sake.

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good. [/quote]

Not sure why you would compare the two.[/quote]

Superhero origin movie both fronted in some way by Christopher Nolan, brought out in the early 21st century and both involved in the same cinema-phase of Superhero films of these decades?

Of course they’re two different kinds of hero with two different legacies, attributes and circumstances (and directors), but if it’s going to have to be compared to something, the Batman series isn’t a bad choice.[/quote]

The only way to compare the two is are they good or badly made. I have not seen anyone try to compare the Chris Reeve Superman to the Michael Keaton
Batman movie. They have always had different vibes. [/quote]

I wouldn’t mind somebody using Batman Begins/The Dark Knight as reference points to try and triangulate where Man Of Steel fits into the spectrum, I’m not so much arguing their differences as that this is as close as you might get to relation. Of course you could argue the Reeve’s Superman just by virtue of being another Superman film and all that encompasses that, but with CGI being a big part of Snyder’s hand and the small margin in the time-frame, the gap starts to widen considerably where cinematography is concerned. I’ve not seen the review in question as of yet and so I can’t comment on the respectability of it’s comparison, but I would have to guess that it would be the author’s prime reasoning for making that one in particular. At this point I wouldn’t expect comparisons to be for the purpose of distinguishing good/bad, but more towards good/great, however small that margin may be if we look outside the box
(Begins/Dark Knight).

And just because there is a first time for everything, Reeve’s original “Superman” beats Keaton’s original “Batman” hands down. (“Batman Returns” also, even though I enjoyed it considerably more.)[/quote]

WHAT??? PX is this you??? X would pick Reeves Supes over Keaton’s Bat. Hahahahahah. Wow, well just on acting the character well I must pick Keaton He did a damn good job. Reeves to me just had the cosmetics down ( size, looks).[/quote]

Keaton was wonderful, as was Nicholson, the problem is that everybody else was dragging it down into the waters. I like the Burton “nightmare” vibe running through it, but Nicholson was way too good for the rest of the film to really have much chance keeping up with him. There’ll be a fair few people that won’t recognise Keaton in his Batman role, but there’s not one person this side of Russia that won’t remember Reeves’ (also perfectly cast) Superman portrayals. Batman was a little bland at times and the plot wasn’t quite so wonderful as I would have hoped, but Superman had everything down to a T, whether it be humour, love relations, being delightfully fun or just expressing the perfect ideal of what Superman should be as both a man and icon. Yes it’s a little cheesy and it doesn’t age quite as well as people may have hoped, but I’ll still take it over “Batman” for enjoyment’s sake.[/quote]

Not much I can argue with on that…except. When I think of Keaton’s batman. I remember the Butler, the Mayor that they got that was the spitting image of NY’s infamous Mayor Koch. The villain of course “Jack” as well as Jack’s side kick who had few if any lines but stood out. When I think of Superman all I can remember with clarity is well Reeves. Maybe it is just me. But to me the Reeves or Superman was just to much like every image of Superman I remember as a child that he over powered everything else to the extent that it made me feel like the story and supporting actors (except Lois Lane) was just garnish. I did enjoy the movie when It came out. And for its time it was AMAZING.

*** WARNING THIS TRAILER IS A SUPER SPOILER"

DO NOT WATCH IF YOU ARE NOT INTO LONG TRAILERS"

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I read a review somewhere on the Man of Steel and they did make a comparison to Batman Begins and said it wasn’t quite as good. [/quote]

Not sure why you would compare the two.[/quote]

Superhero origin movie both fronted in some way by Christopher Nolan, brought out in the early 21st century and both involved in the same cinema-phase of Superhero films of these decades?

Of course they’re two different kinds of hero with two different legacies, attributes and circumstances (and directors), but if it’s going to have to be compared to something, the Batman series isn’t a bad choice.[/quote]

The only way to compare the two is are they good or badly made. I have not seen anyone try to compare the Chris Reeve Superman to the Michael Keaton
Batman movie. They have always had different vibes. [/quote]

I wouldn’t mind somebody using Batman Begins/The Dark Knight as reference points to try and triangulate where Man Of Steel fits into the spectrum, I’m not so much arguing their differences as that this is as close as you might get to relation. Of course you could argue the Reeve’s Superman just by virtue of being another Superman film and all that encompasses that, but with CGI being a big part of Snyder’s hand and the small margin in the time-frame, the gap starts to widen considerably where cinematography is concerned. I’ve not seen the review in question as of yet and so I can’t comment on the respectability of it’s comparison, but I would have to guess that it would be the author’s prime reasoning for making that one in particular. At this point I wouldn’t expect comparisons to be for the purpose of distinguishing good/bad, but more towards good/great, however small that margin may be if we look outside the box
(Begins/Dark Knight).

And just because there is a first time for everything, Reeve’s original “Superman” beats Keaton’s original “Batman” hands down. (“Batman Returns” also, even though I enjoyed it considerably more.)[/quote]

WHAT??? PX is this you??? X would pick Reeves Supes over Keaton’s Bat. Hahahahahah. Wow, well just on acting the character well I must pick Keaton He did a damn good job. Reeves to me just had the cosmetics down ( size, looks).[/quote]

Keaton was wonderful, as was Nicholson, the problem is that everybody else was dragging it down into the waters. I like the Burton “nightmare” vibe running through it, but Nicholson was way too good for the rest of the film to really have much chance keeping up with him. There’ll be a fair few people that won’t recognise Keaton in his Batman role, but there’s not one person this side of Russia that won’t remember Reeves’ (also perfectly cast) Superman portrayals. Batman was a little bland at times and the plot wasn’t quite so wonderful as I would have hoped, but Superman had everything down to a T, whether it be humour, love relations, being delightfully fun or just expressing the perfect ideal of what Superman should be as both a man and icon. Yes it’s a little cheesy and it doesn’t age quite as well as people may have hoped, but I’ll still take it over “Batman” for enjoyment’s sake.[/quote]

Not much I can argue with on that…except. When I think of Keaton’s batman. I remember the Butler, the Mayor that they got that was the spitting image of NY’s infamous Mayor Koch. The villain of course “Jack” as well as Jack’s side kick who had few if any lines but stood out. When I think of Superman all I can remember with clarity is well Reeves. Maybe it is just me. But to me the Reeves or Superman was just to much like every image of Superman I remember as a child that he over powered everything else to the extent that it made me feel like the story and supporting actors (except Lois Lane) was just garnish. I did enjoy the movie when It came out. And for its time it was AMAZING.[/quote]

Looking back on Superman I can remember so much as Brando’s brief role as Jor-El and the cataclysmic destruction of Krypton, the wonderful score by John Williams that has been largely prevalent since and the great dynamic between Clark and Lois, also a nice little role by Gene Hackman as Luthor. I can definitely see that Reeves being put on so much of a pedestal is a blessing that also leaves room for a curse, but the pros still triumphantly outweigh the cons. There’s always going to be some issue somewhere if an actor or concept is even so slightly out of the league of everything else that it begins to be overpowered by him/it, but I would still say that Superman handles that kind of issue with Reeves more gracefully than Batman does with Nicholson, maybe largely because of who is on said pedestal. Can you imagine if Hackman’s Luthor was all that anyone remembered from Superman? It would have been substantially disastrous.

Sadly I’m too young to have caught that fresh perspective on Superman’s breaking of late 70’s barriers, but in comparison to everything of the same period I would definitely expect that to be quite the case.

Pains me to put down Batman in favour of Superman, always thought Superman was too much of a wussy golden-boy limited by his divine righteousness to really be efficient, but people eat that kind of stuff up. I kind of wish there’d be a superhero movie where human beings are just the kind of crotchety, impatient arseholes we’d expect them to be, with the superhero up and deciding not to deal with all their whiny bullshit. I think that’s why I hope we never see a superior and more intelligent alien race, at least not until we get our shit together.

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

Enjoy[/quote]

Between this and the new trailer released today I feel like vie seen the Movie. AND IT WAS AWESOME!!![/quote]

Damn. That looks fucking good.

But I’ve got about enough of trailer spoilers/teasers. I want to go to the cinema and be surprised by the next scene instead of anticipating it by knowing how awesome a car chase or a big boss fight or scary scene is going to turn out.

I understand these are the new tactics used in order to draw more audience in but damn, keep it to a minimum.

[quote]four60 wrote:
*** WARNING THIS TRAILER IS A SUPER SPOILER"

DO NOT WATCH IF YOU ARE NOT INTO LONG TRAILERS"

Thank you for your warning.

^No problemo Ninja Girl