New Kanye West Song

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]EurekaBulldogLaw wrote:
Since this has kind of widened in scope, half of Drake’s album has leaked for anyone who is interested.[/quote]

Yeah, dunno if this matters to anyone but I don’t mind if this thread is used to discuss other hip hop as well :).

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard all of the songs that have leaked as well. You liking any of them? The one with Jay-Z, ‘Light Up’ is pretty good, more for Jay’s verse than Drakes, and the beat on ‘Find Your Love’ is nice [the singing’s okay… I guess].

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It’s kind of what I expected it to be. I don’t dig Drake as a rapper, I dig his tunes (and mostly for the guest spots). He doesn’t go too hard but he’s got the hooks.

The singing is something I’m not too big on.

Jay is getting around. While I find “Light Up” a good song, I’m looking forward to his song with Dre which should be out soon.

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[quote]EurekaBulldogLaw wrote:
I’m looking forward to his song with Dre which should be out soon.[/quote]

“Should”

Bwahahaha!!

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[quote]malonetd wrote:

[quote]EurekaBulldogLaw wrote:
I’m looking forward to his song with Dre which should be out soon.[/quote]

“Should”

Bwahahaha!![/quote]

He said within the next few weeks so I’m sort of taking that as “never coming out.”

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[quote]EurekaBulldogLaw wrote:

[quote]malonetd wrote:

[quote]EurekaBulldogLaw wrote:
I’m looking forward to his song with Dre which should be out soon.[/quote]

“Should”

Bwahahaha!![/quote]

He said within the next few weeks so I’m sort of taking that as “never coming out.”[/quote]

Dre was supposed to release a song with Jay-Z called ‘Under Pressure’ on 4/20 but it also never came out.

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Song was produced by a guy named Symbolyc One who does a lot of work with Rhymefest, with extra production by Kanye West.

It might not be the first single on the new album, and it may very well have been a leftover track from the session for Good Ass Job. Hopefully that’s true, because compared to the lyrics on his guest spots from the past two years this song was bad, and he said he was going to step his game up lyrically…

Beat was nice though.

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[quote]EurekaBulldogLaw wrote:

It’s kind of what I expected it to be. I don’t dig Drake as a rapper, I dig his tunes (and mostly for the guest spots). He doesn’t go too hard but he’s got the hooks.

The singing is something I’m not too big on.
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I don’t really like his guest verse a lot. He usually ends up being a punchline rapper on those songs and his punchlines are kind of Kanye-esque [better than Kanye’s but similar]. Kanye’s his favourite rapper and his main influence. Thing is if you’re stealing your punchline style from Kanye it’s no good because that was never Kanye’s strength.

If you haven’t listened to it yet, download So Far Gone. It’s the mixtape Drake did that basically put him on the map [it had Best I Ever Had, and a few Lil Wayne guest spots on it]. Drake sort of raps about his fame for the most part when he want’s to get serious, but he does it really well, especially over the beats 40 gives him.

Here’s one song from the mixtape he does over Kanye’s “Say You Will”:

^There’s him borrowing the best part of Kanye’s style and making it his own. Kanye used to have that understated but resonant style on his first two albums but he kind of lost it on Graduation. Drake apparently wrote this one after he was dropped from Interscope, and Wayne found out about him.

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My bad, I meant I like the guests on his tracks more than him [generally].

The influence of Kanye on Drake was embarrassingly noticeable in “Forever,” which is also one of the tracks where the guest spots tear him up. His whole verse in that song was in the vein of Kanye’s (one word punches, using one phrase to tie up the meaning of the preceding sentence and then rhyming the consequent tie-up phrases).

In “Say What’s Real” he brought more energy to that beat than the original did. Sort of offsets it and makes it more interesting. The original (and all of 808’s really) had that dirge-like quality…

I’m hoping we’re gonna see some new subject matter in the future. This fame shtick is not going to take him too far, even if he has ridden two singles dealing with it (the type of shit that makes you play the world’s smallest violin for him). Hopefully a drastic improvement in technique will occur at some point, but I think he’s sticking to the club-hop scene more than anything.

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[quote]EurekaBulldogLaw wrote:

The influence of Kanye on Drake was embarrassingly noticeable in “Forever,” which is also one of the tracks where the guest spots tear him up. His whole verse in that song was in the vein of Kanye’s (one word punches, using one phrase to tie up the meaning of the preceding sentence and then rhyming the consequent tie-up phrases).
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LOL yeah, exactly. Although I’d say he had a better verse than Kanye at least on that song, and probably Wayne too.

[quote]In “Say What’s Real” he brought more energy to that beat than the original did. Sort of offsets it and makes it more interesting. The original (and all of 808’s really) had that dirge-like quality…
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You can’t really compare the two so easily since Kanye was intentionally making a sparse [the strings and synths on the songs], detached [the autotune and other voice enhancement used], and primitive [specifically the piano and the African style drums] sounding record on 808s, so many of the tracks are intentionally made with abstract lyrics. The dirge-like quality of the lyrics and music are necessary because of the concept of the album. Tracks like “Amazing” and “Say You Will” originally struck me as being very simple and poor lyrically but then I realized they were probably the stand out tracks lyrically, too. Of course he needed songs like “Street Lights”, and “Bad News” to make sure the album had some semblance of a story.

Drake just found a gem of a beat and spazzed out on it. Great song though, one of his best.

I kind of feel like Drake’s going to have a 50 Cent style rise and fall, as he’s already exhausted the trials and tribulations of fame shtick that most musicians use later in their careers. And put next to So Far Gone, Thank Me Later is already sounding like self-parody- something most musicians fall into later in their careers. And like 50, his POP success has more to do with his hook-singing ability [he already one of the best ever at this, IMO] than rapping. And historically hook singers that are really popular only stay big for less than 5 years [Akon, T-Pain, etc]. Eventually their voice falls out of favour once people have heard it too much.

Hopefully I’m proven wrong, though.

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I like the song, and it will definitely be on my workout playlist for some time to come.

As for Drake, I think he burnt up his talent before he got famous. If you look at his first three mixtapes (room for improvement, comeback season, so far gone) they were great, as were all the individual songs he put out during that time. But once he signed with Lil’ Wayne, it’s like his soul and talent were sucked out. I’ll buy his CD to support him, but I think he’ll end up just being one giant flash in the pan.

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I only like his singles. “Heartless”,“Flashing Lights”,and “Gold Digger” I think hes original enough to standout but its getting harder to just enjoy his music with his personality.

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This video is fucking insane. You gotta watch it numerous times to get everything that’s going on. This song grew on me. You were ahead of the curve on this one Larry

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The uncut raw version is fucking fire. Watched it 5 times.

EDIT: my bad I meant UNCENSORED version same video just with tits.

song is tight.

http://www.undergroundcharizma.com/2010/08/kanye-west-power-uncensoredvideo.html

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[quote]four60 wrote:
The uncut raw version is fucking fire. Watched it 5 times. [/quote]

UMMM LINK PLEASE! Shit man, you’ve been apart of this forum too long to let that kind of thing slip.

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I like that. Song has been downloaded.

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[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

This video is fucking insane. You gotta watch it numerous times to get everything that’s going on. This song grew on me. You were ahead of the curve on this one Larry [/quote]

No doubt, I’m still trying to figure out all of the stuff. The director’s cut had more tit-tays, but the link I had isn’t working anymore. If I find a new one I’ll link to it here.

And yeah, I already like the beat but the song as a whole has grown on me as well. It was the only song I was listening to at the gym today. I hope Kanye hasn’t ruined his relationship with people who don’t like rap, because this song would sound great as the theme to some kind of sporting program, event, etc. I remember when they used Run This Town last year, but cut off his verse.

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I added the link in the uncensored version if he looks like he is walking towards you and if you turn on the HD yeah. I enjoyed it.

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Where were you people when this I started this thread and got savaged? Huh? lol

You’ve got to give Kanye credit for having one of the best videographies of any musician [he’s undisputed #1 in hip hop]. He used to have a bigger role in the vids, but now he just finds artists he likes and gives them the freedom to make the video the way they want.

Also, while not much has leaked from the new Yeezy, he did a lot of a capellas off the album, and some of them sound pretty good. And this snippet of a song he has with Rozay leaked a few months back:

The quality is bad and the DJ drops make it hard to hear the beat, but you can tell it’s gonna sound nice when the mastered, untagged version leaks. And his flow is fuckin nice on the song too. Kanye’s biggest weakness has always been his voice and delivery so it’s good to see he focused on that while he was in Hawaii recording. Yesterday he played a snippet of a new song that might be a single, but the quality is so bad I may as well not post it here.

Kanye in studio with his old girl and some others:

He’s been getting into dub-step, world music, sampling from more and more odd places. This is just a prediction, but based on the King Crimson sample on Power, the art work for Power, and the end of that studio clip where he plays the rock sounding sample, progressive rock is going to be a HUGE influence on the sound of the record.

If you’re an old head, don’t forget Q-Tip, RZA, Pete Rock, and DJ Premier are all working on the album. So is one of the most underrated producers around right now, DJ Toomp. And of course, the guys Ye always works with these days: No ID, Jon Brion, Jeff Bhaskr, Plain Pat, Dwele, Kid Cudi, and couple more.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

This video is fucking insane. You gotta watch it numerous times to get everything that’s going on. This song grew on me. You were ahead of the curve on this one Larry [/quote]

No doubt, I’m still trying to figure out all of the stuff. The director’s cut had more tit-tays, but the link I had isn’t working anymore. If I find a new one I’ll link to it here.

And yeah, I already like the beat but the song as a whole has grown on me as well. It was the only song I was listening to at the gym today. I hope Kanye hasn’t ruined his relationship with people who don’t like rap, because this song would sound great as the theme to some kind of sporting program, event, etc. I remember when they used Run This Town last year, but cut off his verse. [/quote]

Your stupidly awesome avatar set me of on a Keri Hilson google binge last night that sunk a whole night of planned work in one swoop, dam you lol. She has an awesome body!

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[quote]NIguy wrote:

Your stupidly awesome avatar set me of on a Keri Hilson google binge last night that sunk a whole night of planned work in one swoop, dam you lol. She has an awesome body![/quote]

ROFL. First time I saw the video that gif was from and the vid for Turnin’ Me On I kinda went on a google binge myself, haha.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Where were you people when this I started this thread and got savaged? Huh? lol
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I was on the first page…loudly asking why super haterz were responding to this thread.