And then there’s the whole lactose intolerant thing…
I friggin love milk, but one too many cups and I’ll be pissin out the wrong hole.
It seems bjj and w8lift has been on to a lot of paleo reading with his reference to raw milk, and fats, and stuff. I prefer paleo myself (and understand that raw milk does in fact contain lactase), but where does one attain raw milk straight from the udders of grass fed cow?
[quote]bjj and w8lift wrote:
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
[quote]bjj and w8lift wrote:
To adress food colouring and preservatives, the best way to look at it is like petrol. If you fill up your car with low quality fuel, gunk builds up overtime, and slows down your engine.[/quote]
Even if we did want to go with this analogy, the OP doesn’t even own a car yet, so there’s very little point in making sure he pays attention to avoiding “low quality fuel”.
As for the milk, as was said, it’s absurd to make whole milk a staple in the menu of anyone dealing with bodyfat because, like nighthawkz said, you’re getting a load of sugar, fat, and calories along with a modest amount of protein.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
I’d love to see the awesome physique you’ve built by implementing the bullshit advice you’ve spread on this site.[/quote]
Wait, so the 17-year old with no stats listed and half his posts in PWI might just be talking out of his ass? Sir, I am shocked, outraged, and mildly flabbergasted.[/quote]
I should have kept in mind the OP is trying to LOSE weight. I just got sidetracked. In which case, yes, one wouldn’t pound down whole milk. And if I’m talking out my ass, then what the hell is your argument?[/quote]
I would think being a 17-year old with no stats listed and half his posts in PWI should suffice as a valid argument.
But unlike Chris, my flabbergastation far exceeds the shock and outrage.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
I probably shouldn’t mention this, as not to confuse OP, BUT… consumption of whole milk is correlated with less calories consumed overall. This is mostly due to the fact that whole milk is really filling and sticks w/ you for a long time.[/quote]
Oh?
I find that interesting because whole milk has been a critical tool in my arsenal to ensure adequate overall calories. Without it, I often didn’t get enough calories. Things are a bit different now that I’m not making/buying all of my meals, and oils are featured prominently in most of the home cooked food, but before then, whole milk was very much a staple, occasionally subbed with sweetened condensed milk and/or half and half.[/quote]
I get what you are saying, because I am pounding the whole milk trying to gain weight as well. But like the saying goes, if you want to lose weight, drink a protein shake BEFORE dinner and if you want to gain weight, drink a protein shake AFTER dinner. There have been numerous studies mainly in schools that show that drinking whole milk leads to less overall calorie consumption due to the satiation of it. But that is with people letting just hunger dictate consumption, not people intentionally trying to consume more calories.
[quote]Ecchastang wrote:
But that is with people letting just hunger dictate consumption, not people intentionally trying to consume more calories. [/quote]
That’s the key here. I can absolutely guarantee I consume more calories in a day when I’m drinking lots of milk. Most studies on weight gain, weight loss, caloric intake, diet drinks vs regular, etc, don’t really apply to our community, because our goals are so different from the population at large.
I see. I would guess that’s probably the case with eating “whole” foods too, or at least with meat and vegetables (maybe not grains). A family size bag of Doritos just isn’t as satiating as a steak and seasonal vegetables.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
I see. I would guess that’s probably the case with eating “whole” foods too, or at least with meat and vegetables (maybe not grains). A family size bag of Doritos just isn’t as satiating as a steak and seasonal vegetables.[/quote]
Thats why I add a decent amount of milk, almond butter, and whey protein. Meat and veggies fill me up without a ton of calories.
To the OP: You asked about supplements, and got a zillion answers about nutrition. This alone speaks volumes, regardless of any nuances of what “nutrition” should entail.
[quote]Ecchastang wrote:
Supplement with lifting heavy weights 3-4 times per week, doing some type of conditioning a couple times per week, getting 7-9 hours sleep per night, and about 150-200g protein per day, mostly from animal sources such as eggs, beef, etc. Limit your supplementation of refined carbs, sugars, and processed foods. Doing these things will take you about 97% of the way, so stop worrying about the other 3% until you need to. [/quote]
OP
Write this on paper and read it every day.