Another non-answer post.
No, itâs an answer. Iâm calling you out on your bullshit without pulling any punches from now on.
It has worked the other way for decades. Something you clearly donât want to admit⊠So the underlying ideology of capitalism rears itâs ugly head.
I favor a more socialistic form of economics without the involvement of government. Think Co-Ops.
Sounds like what has been going on in the U.S. for the last few decades. The minority(ruling class) has been getting itâs own way for sometime now. As they have bought the government.
This will not happen if the party has not separated itself from itâs underlying ideology.
Of taking money from the ultra-wealthy/corporations.
socialist governments always result in totalitarianism.
Can this not be done via Co-Ops?
Like we do for the wars, helping to kill a lot of innocents. Money well spent.
Lol. Okay, you do the math for us. Who getâs taxed and at what rate to pay for the additional $3,200,000,000,000 needed to pay for M4A annually.
Canât wait for this.
No one has said it canât be done. What everyone has pointed out, repeatedly, is that it has to be paid for somehow and more debt is a really shitty idea.
I have personally given you 15+ reasons over the last few years. You disingenuous fuck.
Absurd.
What will you do if the sky does fall? No more benefits. No more housing. No more free medication. No more handouts. Youâre the one that will be truly fucked.
Never in US history has life been fairer for stupid people like yourself. Jesus Christ, you probably didnât even pay for the computer youâre typing on.
Youâre unbelievably nieve. âThink Co-Opsâ. Unreal.
The âruling classâ always gets itâs way more so than the rest of us. Read a god damn history book. That will never change as long as human beings exist.
Co-ops are JUST A FUCKING TYPE OF BUSINESS ORGANIZATION THEY ARE NOT AN ECONOMIC OR POLITICAL SYSTEM. What in the fuck are you talking about? Most people, let alone business owners, DO NOT want to be a part of a co-op either because they do not want to share in the RISK of ownership or they do not want to share in the decisionmaking process when it is their capital and they are the ones taking all of the risk.
You are the dumbest person on the internet and probably on the planet. Just shut the fuck up already.
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So Co-Ops without state control are not real?
Were we killing a bunch of innocents in Europe during the late 30s/early 40s?
Again, you could take every dollar spent on the war in Iraq and fund M4A for a year or two and thatâs it. You keep bringing up âwarsâ for some dumb reason thinking it strengthens your argument. It does not.
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Even if you just do a surface analysis of the definitions of communism and socialism youâd know there has been a lot of debate about their true meanings.
Youâre an idiot.
*Oh, thatâs right, definitions donât mean anything to you because you have approximately 5 brain cells.
Stilling waiting, twat.
Itâs okay to do this for wars that kill many innocents but itâs a problem if it is helping people?
âthere has been a lot of debate about their true meaningsâ
Dumbest statement of the year.
You also think thereâs âdebateâ about the efficacy of vaccines. Thereâs also âdebateâ on whether the earth is round or flat and I would not be surprised if you think itâs flat.
A bloody lie with a deflection. If I lived in the US, I would be part of the 10%. What have done, and what has @anon50325502 done to you other than paying taxes so you donât have to beg on the streets?
But you are against deregulation of the market even though it was what has led to the sustained prosperity of the Nordic countries(both source posted by you) because youâre afraid youâre not going to get free money. Wonderful display of hypocrisy.
Co-ops are not âeconomicsâ. They have nothing to do with the government either, so shut up with the co-ops. They are things people are free to set up in a capitalist society. No one stops anyone from setting up, nor disrupt the business of co-ops in a free country. The only thing capable of fucking with co-ops is the government. Like Chavez (see Human Rights report above). You are either using this as another one of your deflections or you donât understand a single thing about economics or co-ops.
And you donât want to deregulate the market. The report on the Nordic model lists this under externalities resulting from a market that isnât free from government involvement if you need a source. You did read it, right?
And itâs wonderful that youâve shown that you agree with Lenin. I wouldnât have expected any less of you.
You are making light of the underlying ideology which has led to over 100 million deaths with another stupid talking point aimed at deflecting. Good for you.
Co-ops have nothing to do with this. They are expressions of a free market in a capitalist economy.
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We have a better standard of living and thatâs just not fair! No one pays the $30,000 a year I spend on childcare least of all fucktard here. No one paid for my wifeâs undergraduate and grad school ($100k+). No one pays my mortgage.
Yet, my effective rate last year was over 20%. Itâs okay, though. Fuck me, the Middle Class. Zepâs true nature comes out in everyone of his horseshit threads.
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What? Print more money? Are you aware of, I donât know, just an obscure, little known thing called inflation/deflation? It happens sometimes when people who donât understand economics do stupid shit.
But good job with the deflection. Just like Bernie.
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I feel for you guys. I pay much lower taxes in comparison over here. Itâs terrible though, after all my years of exploitation of the proletariat.
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Why, will they just stop working?
Is the fact they have jobs in the âhealthcareâ industry justification for the American public to be scammed by the insurance providers?
Who is scamming who?
Yes, itâs experimental. Just be done for over a decade in other countries with very positive results and very few if any side effects. This is the reason it is being kept from the public. As pharma canât compete and they use all of their political connections to try and make sure this doesnât become a reality.
. However, health insurance can save you from financial ruin.
Except when you have to file for BK even if you have insurance.
Look, what a great system we have here.
Many also received big bills that were not covered by their insurance. Among the 32 percent of insured patients stuck with an out-of-network bill, more than
two-thirds of patients said they didnât know the provider wasnât covered. More than 25 percent of the insured respondents said a medical claim had been denied
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Medicare, Medicaid, and social security are headed for insolvency.
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Certainly couldnât be for admin. costs.
No, read the post again very slowly.
The amazing thing is this is just one form of tax, federal income tax.
Add in:
State Income Tax (MD 2% - 5.75%)
Payroll taxes (6.2% for social security and 1.45 of Medicare)
Sales Tax (In MD thatâs 6% on everything except alcohol which is 9%)
Gas Tax (Federal 18.4% MD 33.5 cents/gallon)
Property Tax
Capital Gains Tax (up to 20%)
Any Fees and Tolls (Bay Bridge in MD)
So on and so forth.
Itâs fucking ridiculous.
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