This is a complicated topic and I am very unhappy about how the entire situation was handled myself. However, we cannot have this discussion because you are not versed in the actual happenings and especially the factors pertaining to direct or indirect causation during that period, hence it will lead nowhere.
The point is, you cannot give the government that kind of power.
No shit. Pure socialism in application.
Really? The owner said something in public that Chavez did not like.That’s it. So he persecuted him and nationalized his bank.
Just think of all the anti-government things you’ve written over the years on this forum. They’re multiple times worse than what he said. What do you think Chavez would do to you with the amount of power he had under the law? Do you not see how this works both ways?
Wrong. As always. Still always. Cheaper PER CAPITA. More expensive OVERALL.
I’m not fat and lazy. My wife isn’t fat and lazy. Many of my good friends aren’t fat and lazy. Of course it’s their own fault if they’re fat and lazy. Fat is a clearly plannable calories in calories out approach. By nature of getting fat one is REQUIRED to eat more calories than their body burns (implying they’re also wasteful). Lazy is a work ethic thing that has nothing to do with food manufacturers.
Yes, they should. As they don’t have nearly the same bill requirements, it would make sense that they should have more capital to provide on their own, but that also they have less to leave behind if the wait does added dmg.
Single people with no kids would go to the back of the line if I were making the priority level and that was a required metric.
That would require passing the drug test that many of my relatives aren’t capable of doing.
How disabled are you by your MS? I know a pastor who got diagnosed with it in the mid 80’s and he’s still walking. It progressed very slowly.
I know of a professional violinist who still plays with MS for the past 5 years.
It’s important to note the people @pfury and I are talking about getting easy access to SSI disability are liars and cheats hiring scumbag attorneys (who are also liars and cheats). That probably accelerates it a bit.
Hmmm. Makes me wonder too. I mean, one of my former lifting partners has MS and he did have to quit lifting. He does, however, still teach the worst of the worst in the Pittsburgh public schools, coach a college swim team and run his own management company.
Of course, my brother set the bar pretty high when he broke his neck at the C5-C6 vertebra then obtained an accounting degree and employment as an accountant, where his attendance and work ethic smoked everybody else in the company.
But some might say he had it a little easier than most. He was sitting down all day!
Actually, in terms of health conditions, there exists people on anti anxiety medications that get obese as a product of the medication.
these work by slowing the metabolism down. It gets a good handle on the symptoms, but they don’t burn off calories worth a hoot. Sometimes they get in disputes with other people on the bus because of all the space they take up.
I get that medical conditions exist. But what you’re speaking of simply slows the burn. It means the base calorie rate has changed and the individual has not cut food to compensate.
I’m willing to bet that medical conditions exist that make it literally impossible to stay at a healthy body weight. I’m also willing to bet it numbers less than .1% of the obese people in this country.
This is plain false. Hopkins receives more taxpayer funding than any university in the country and it’s not even close. 10s of millions of dollars go to studying MS and looking for a cure.
Again, this is plainly false.
The government is keeping stem cells from coming to the market.
You really don’t understand how the university system and all the research they do plays a role in our healthcare system, do you?
The only “ideology” I follow is:
A) Does it or will it work and
B) Is it the best alternative
That’s it. Single-payer does not work long-term. It’s basic math nothing more. It’s not sustainable like many of our other social programs. I wish it was. It’s not. Period.
I’d love to see stem cell treatments here. You should be angry with the government, not me. I’m fine with weed as a recreational drug. You should be angry at the government, not me.
That’s one way of looking at it. Here’s reality, you’re being prevented from possibly improving by the government and a lack of research/knowledge in the “healthcare” industry and a credit industry (including many co-ops) that can’t just lend people in your position money.
I get that you’re angry, but you’re just wrong. Part of my career was at Johns Hopkins supporting the Department of Neurology. I’ve seen the 10s of millions of dollars, both public and private funds, used to study MS, in person.
You drew a shitty hand and life isn’t fair.
She has explored every possible treatment and nothing has worked because we haven’t cured it, anywhere in the world.
At any rate, I will no longer engage with you on this topic. I used to think you were such a zealot for your extreme ideology because you were dumb, but now I get it.
Of course, it’s a concern, but the supreme ethic is freedom of choice. We let people chose how they will live their lives here. Freedom requires personal responsibility and that’s much better than any alternative.
@Zeppelin795 what would have to change in the current landscape for you to blame people for getting fat and lazy instead of the companies that sell them food?
Under what scenario would you start holding people responsible for their actions
Should I just believe you or are you going to post some evidence?
Food is information not just calories. 1500 calories of soda has a far different effect on your body than 1500 calories of broccoli. And are you suggesting that advertising campaigns have nothing to do with it? Do you think corporations just dole out millions of dollars for no return? In addition, you have food scientists who study the food to see which combinations of ingredients have the most impact on people’s addiction center in the brain.
This ought to be considered on a case by case basis, not a blanket policy, where everyone is viewed as the same.
Of course you doubt it. You live in the US. Things like these aren’t fathomable to you because you have known freedom all your life.
For someone like me, this is exactly what I would expect someone like Chavez to do with the powers he had because I lived in a similar type of place. I would have expected worse. I was lucky the government where I lived did not have the amount of power he had.
It affects people at a different rate of decline, also entirely different symptoms. I have difficulty even walking, my balance, coordination and motor skills are being destroyed and there is nothing I can do about it. Stem cell treatments for chronic/degenerative diseases are not allowed in this country so that pharma can make more profit from their garbage medications. And you can’t even circumvent this awful “healthcare” system as your access to capital is being blocked by the financial industry as they are allowed to hold you accountable for having a disease. This is a God-forsaken country.
I’ve posted it before. Hell usmc even just posted some above.
Bernie Sanders own plan has an overall spending increase. How do you still think it’s cheaper overall?
I wholeheartedly agree ad campaigns helped. I also remember learning pop and fast food isn’t good for you anyways. So I eat/drink it in moderation.
If I was viewing it on a case by case basis, I’d put you near the back of the line. Seriously. In a real priority system, single people with no kids go to the back of the line, not the front.
The issue is about the government being able to nationalize a private enterprise if it wants to. If they can do it to a bank, they can do it to ANY other business.
I posted a link a while ago (in another thread) from Pew iirc where the vast majority of those surveyed (over 60% iirc) knew soda/fast food was unhealthy and they still choose to consume it.
This is why I asked him under what circumstances hes going to hold people accountable. I KNOW, with absolute certainty, that the weed I smoke is not good for me, yet I do it anyways.
I’m also not going to blame society for why I can’t run a 5k without daggers in my lungs, because ya know, duh.
