New Business Failures

You’ve been enlightened!

Dead serious. I agree that corporate greed creates a ton of problems, I just disagree with you on the fix. I actually would like to shop at co ops assuming they can provide comparable value.

You say you financially support co ops, I’d be happy to join you

No. Keeping treatments away from the public, which in turn prolongs their suffering, so profits can be kept up is extremely moral and ethical.

No because the healthcare system is not monolithic. The industry is a conglomerate of corporations. They feed off of each others control.

Then please explain why it has already done so? The legalization of cannabis has cut down the usage of opioids. Leading to less overdoses but less profits for pharma. Cry me a river.

More expensive as the drug costs in this country? Where the majority of these synthetic chemicals are taken monthly along with a laundry list of awful side effects.

You equate the money sports stars make with CEO’s who ship jobs overseas and help to destroy the lives of thousands of Americans. But this isn’t surprising as you equate all profits as the same.

When you have no valid defense for your position. Resort to an awful attempt at humor.

He talks in major generalities.

Wow the egalitarianism in this country. Poverty certainly seems to be on the decline.

Claims that war over the world is reigning but fails to mention the U.S. involvement.

My position is that you are a liar, hypocrite and an opportunist who flagrantly uses the suffering of others to prop up his own attempt at taking a moral position towards subjects you have no proper arguments to support.

I also know you would rather people continue to suffer as long as you can take the wealthy down.

And I have provided ample retorts and examples within this thread, which you have either deflected or lied your way around.

You want to play the moral game again? I’ll play it with you. Just don’t run away again and hope the posts will disappear just because you fail to acknowledge them.

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Such as?

So pharma seeks to limit choice of the public and that is not immoral and highly unethical? Especially when the cost is in human suffering and even death.

So why did pharma lobby against medicinal cannabis?

And don’t run away or dodge the question above.

Co-Ops are a systemic solution, not just a fix on the margins that leave the current system in place.

See? You liar.

Why are you ascribing a position to me when I have never posted once about pharma?

You did this with co-ops where I never posted anything negative about them.

But your argument is about morality. If you cannot prove the things you assert are really happening, you cannot ask the moral question. But you’re jumping on the moral argument before proving the former. This would be dishonest, which would make you immoral.

I have purposefully refused to take a position on multiple topics because I knew you will be jumping around between, and falling back on one of them as a deflection everytime you have no answer for the one currently in contention, only to bring up the current one again in a later topic as if the previous exchange had never occured.

20+ years of seeing these pathetic tactics used by hypocritical, lying scum like you.

Then what is their main function? Is it not profits? Why did they try and keep medicinal cannabis from coming to the market?

I don’t care what other people do. Unfortunately, desperation drives people do do all sorts of things, like patronize peddlers of false hope that are more than willing to promise the world and deliver ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in return.

Emphasis on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING because thats what you have.

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Absolutely more expensive. But it’s supposed to be a lower volume thing, so obviously the up front cost is higher.

So you don’t actually support co ops? I’m just curious for a few business names that you shop at. Seems like a good thing to financially support

Jesus tap dancing Christ … answer the fucking question you hack. It’s established profits are a motive. You admitted to other motives aside from profit. I asked you to identify them and you answer my questions with more questions that divert away from the conversation. Answer the fucking questions.

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You gotta admit, Zep can sidestep and counter better than anyone on the planet.

Okay, fuckface, hundreds of millions, probably billions, have received “positive results” from vaccines and you’re an anti-vaxxer.

You’re a god damn lunatic.

I honestly don’t believe you’ve ever left your mom’s basement.

You’re Anti-Vaccine.

I asked you three questions, twice, you’ve yet to answer Patches O’houlihan. Fuck outta here.