[quote]sundevil65 wrote:
Let me pose a question: Is there any meaningful way to fight this? I really don’t like the idea of basic supplements being taken off the market. [/quote]
However gloomy it may sound I’m afraid that it will always be $$$ that rules so unless there’s a bigger gorilla with a different agenda I think that it will pass, some way or the other.
[quote]sundevil65 wrote:
Let me pose a question: Is there any meaningful way to fight this? I really don’t like the idea of basic supplements being taken off the market. [/quote]
This link from earlier in the thread
http://www.thenhf.com/press_releases/pr_04_feb_2010.html
There is a link at the bottom to an online petition and ways to contact our good politicians.
If politicians want to regulate the industry, why not provide tax incentives to all of us who buy supplements? and those who produce them 
I mean, supplement consumers are generally interested in better health, right? This interest in better health may potentially lead to lower healthcare costs.
Why not create incentives for trying to be healthy, and taking positive steps in being healthy?
[quote]sundevil65 wrote:
Let me pose a question: Is there any meaningful way to fight this? I really don’t like the idea of basic supplements being taken off the market. [/quote]
[quote]burder wrote:
If politicians want to regulate the industry, why not provide tax incentives to all of us who buy supplements? and those who produce them
I mean, supplement consumers are generally interested in better health, right? This interest in better health may potentially lead to lower healthcare costs.
Why not create incentives for trying to be healthy, and taking positive steps in being healthy?
[quote]sundevil65 wrote:
Let me pose a question: Is there any meaningful way to fight this? I really don’t like the idea of basic supplements being taken off the market. [/quote]
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You seem confused.
They are trying to ban many supplements by claiming they are NOT healthy and that they will cause the brains of little kids to boil over in their poor little heads until liquid grey matter flows from their noses.
Why would they erase all of the hard work they have done to damage the image of the entire supplement industry by now claiming they are healthy?
The last thing the government seems to want is for people to be strong, independently well educated, well informed, healthy and really muscular.
Sheep are so much more easier to control when they are drugged up, fat as hell, weak, blatantly ignorant yet dumb enough to label everything that could reverse these issues as being a negative.
The average person probably thinks Jared from Subway is in great shape and “healthier” than any serious weight lifter.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]swivel wrote:
[quote]Digity wrote:
Yeah, I recently read a book on this very topic called Selling Sickness:
The pharmaceutical companies definitely have too much influence over what gets approved through the FDA. However, I think supplements are small potatoes compared to the money pharmaceutical companies make. I wonder if they even give a crap about supplements.
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??? Of course they “give a crap”. More people everyday learn what simple things like Vit-D and Fish Oil can do and say to their Doctor they’d rather try them than a prescription drug - that’s a direct attack on Pharma sales. And even worse (for Pharma ), it’s also a direct attack on their entire market ; the more the the population learns that these things work and become healthier, the less they need Pharma products.
You can measure Pharma’s awareness and concern over how well supps work, and how much it matter’s to their pocket’s, by the fact that this bill is happening…it’s sure not the Athlete’s lobby trying to push it through.
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Well said. Supplements that actually work scare the shit out of people whose bottom line depends on “dependency”.
That may also be why marijuana will never be legal in this political climate. A plant that reduces anxiety without side effects other than “being high” could crush anxiety meds.
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Yes, this was well said. Why didn’t you say it earlier, X? This is the type of CONCRETE example I was asking for in the first place, rather than the know-it-all, condescending sound bytes this thread was full of. I suppose the real problem is the media these days, since they regularly pass along such sentiments as if that’s where the “analysis” should begin and end.
If more people would stop shouting down people who disagree, especially when no evidence or facts are provided, we’d all be much more civilized. Tolerance, people, is generally a good thing.
All I’m saying is I want to learn more. But if I’m designing a govt from scratch, the proposed bill, at first blush, doesn’t sound bad. If the problem is that big pharm wants them regulated out of competition, well then I think measures should be taken to limit big pharm’s influence. This, to me, makes the most sense. And, yes, this is probably a campaign finance reform issue, which is outside of the scope of this thread (that’s for damn sure).
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]burder wrote:
If politicians want to regulate the industry, why not provide tax incentives to all of us who buy supplements? and those who produce them
I mean, supplement consumers are generally interested in better health, right? This interest in better health may potentially lead to lower healthcare costs.
Why not create incentives for trying to be healthy, and taking positive steps in being healthy?
[quote]sundevil65 wrote:
Let me pose a question: Is there any meaningful way to fight this? I really don’t like the idea of basic supplements being taken off the market. [/quote]
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You seem confused.
They are trying to ban many supplements by claiming they are NOT healthy and that they will cause the brains of little kids to boil over in their poor little heads until liquid grey matter flows from their noses.
Why would they erase all of the hard work they have done to damage the image of the entire supplement industry by now claiming they are healthy?
The last thing the government seems to want is for people to be strong, independently well educated, well informed, healthy and really muscular.
Sheep are so much more easier to control when they are drugged up, fat as hell, weak, blatantly ignorant yet dumb enough to label everything that could reverse these issues as being a negative.
The average person probably thinks Jared from Subway is in great shape and “healthier” than any serious weight lifter.[/quote]
Ha, right!
Silly me, what the hell was I thinking! I better get back in line at Subway.
Glenn Beck has been warning us McCain is a progressive for a while now. Lets also not forget that McCain was the one who ruined the UFC by forcing them to adopt silly rules.
I’d be all for regulation that would guarantee what is on the label is in the product. However, I doubt that is there intention
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I’d be all for regulation that would guarantee what is on the label is in the product. However, I doubt that is there intention[/quote]
This is exactly how I feel. The non-regulated supplement industry we have now is a double edged sword.
I like the fact that I can get the supplements I like without a problem, I hate the fact I can’t trust the majority of supplement companies. I only buy from Biotest, because it is the only company I trust to not sell me shit and call it gold.