I ran 200mg of test cyp 2x/week for 10 weeks and 60mg/winstrol eod for the last 6 weeks. I had very great results, and have nolvadex and hcg on hand for my pct.
my problem is that i was told by my prescribing company to inject the hcg two weeks after my last test injection and run it at 500iu/ED for 10 days. after browsing the site i realized i should have began injecting my hcg during my pre-pct, but now it’s too late(14 days), and im not sure if i should just not use the hcg and stick with the nolvadex or if i should use it the way i was told by my prescriber.
i would really like to use it to cope with my testicular atrophy i got while on cycle. also, im currently taking Alpha Male to keep the sex drive in check.
any suggestions on what i should do? would it do much harm to begin the hcg now that im already in my pct?
There is a lot of conflicting statements regarding proper HCG use. Some of the vets on this forum battled this out in great detail some months ago. It is my understanding that the HCG should be ran during cycle to prevent testicular atrophy. I would continue to use your nolv for PCT. This in itself will help to bring the “boys” back to full strength.
500iu ED is too much. 250iu EOD is all that is needed to maintain baseline activity. Front load with 500 for two days then start 250iu SC EOD. 500iu EOD was shown to create the same results as 200iu EOD.
Too much hCG will down-regulate the LH receptors… something to be avoided. And there is the mentality that more is better…wrong!
There is a lot of crap on the net talking about dosing that is way too much [and harmful].
Do you even need HCG for that kind of cycle? I ran Test E/Deca at 500mg/350mg respectively for about 9 weeks, only PCT was nolva, and I was fine. I consulted people about hcg, and they said I didn’t need it.
i think he’s just commenting; i’m the moron with the questions : )
i’m pretty pissed at myself b/c i always research here before i go through with anything, but figured i didn’t have to check on the hcg till i was ready to begin my post-cycle…wrong
Generally you don’t need it for short cycles. However some of us do much longer cycles 22weeks is not uncommon.
For people who do long cycles or that are on TRT, the HCG will be needed as the longer time you are on exogenous T, the smaller your testes will become. Of course you could go without using HCG but the visual impact is not good. I haven’t personally seen, but have notion of guys running 1 shot every month of 500mg just to send a light “signal” and keep the testes in somewhat decent shape.
I use no more than 2IU’s daily. A 5mg or 15ml Vial should last you just about 14-15 days which is the total shelf life of the stuff anyway. I couldnt imagine using the amounts your talking about.