I have recently become interested in learning how to program computers and was wondering how one can learn to do thing like make websites?
I know that one must learn things like HTML and others but in what order? are there any good books or sites?
[quote]-ETHAN- wrote:
I have recently become interested in learning how to program computers and was wondering how one can learn to do thing like make websites?
I know that one must learn things like HTML and others but in what order? are there any good books or sites? [/quote]
You’d be better off taking a class at a local college.
For tinkering around a learning a few things on your own:
They even have windows to enter code and see the results.
[quote]-ETHAN- wrote:
I have recently become interested in learning how to program computers and was wondering how one can learn to do thing like make websites?
I know that one must learn things like HTML and others but in what order? are there any good books or sites? [/quote]
If it’s just websites, then go ahead and google some html tutorials. You’ll also need to learn some javascript, depending on what type of website you want to create.
You say you want to program some computers, then I would recommend learning at least c++ and from there on, you can learn other programming languages since they are somewhat similar. Good luck.
jet
Dave’s Site is better than W3, imo. It was more useful to me back when I thought HTML was real programming.
[quote]Jetric9 wrote:
-ETHAN- wrote:
I have recently become interested in learning how to program computers and was wondering how one can learn to do thing like make websites?
I know that one must learn things like HTML and others but in what order? are there any good books or sites?
If it’s just websites, then go ahead and google some html tutorials. You’ll also need to learn some javascript, depending on what type of website you want to create.
You say you want to program some computers, then I would recommend learning at least c++ and from there on, you can learn other programming languages since they are somewhat similar. Good luck.
jet[/quote]
Why C++? The guy doesn’t need all the power of C++. Wouldn’t it be easier for him to start with something simpler? A high-level language like Python, maybe?
Hell, even Java with all of its stupidness is easier to use than C++, right?
I’m not knocking C++, and I know it’s pretty much required if you want a job, but I just think it would be better to learn with something more simple. Once he gets used to object-orient programming, then he should try C++.
Then again, I’m just a high school student learning this stuff in my spare time. I’m not really the best one to ask about this. I’m just parroting what I was told by pretty much everyone I asked when I wanted to know how to start.
Use a software called Dreamweaver.
Its the photoshop of websites.
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
Use a software called Dreamweaver.
Its the photoshop of websites.[/quote]
Thought about it but would rather learn how to script for myself.
I second using dreamweaver. Writing html and css by hand is just time consuming. The thing is HTML isn’t programming at all, so knowing how to write it doesn’t make much of a difference. Once you make the page in dreamweaver you have the choice to edit the page manually or use the editor.
[quote]-ETHAN- wrote:
brucevangeorge wrote:
Use a software called Dreamweaver.
Its the photoshop of websites.
Thought about it but would rather learn how to script for myself.[/quote]
Then go to Dave’s site. You could learn HTML and CSS in a few hours.
[quote]grew7 wrote:
Dave’s Site is better than W3, imo. It was more useful to me back when I thought HTML was real programming.
Jetric9 wrote:
-ETHAN- wrote:
I have recently become interested in learning how to program computers and was wondering how one can learn to do thing like make websites?
I know that one must learn things like HTML and others but in what order? are there any good books or sites?
If it’s just websites, then go ahead and google some html tutorials. You’ll also need to learn some javascript, depending on what type of website you want to create.
You say you want to program some computers, then I would recommend learning at least c++ and from there on, you can learn other programming languages since they are somewhat similar. Good luck.
jet
Why C++? The guy doesn’t need all the power of C++. Wouldn’t it be easier for him to start with something simpler? A high-level language like Python, maybe?
Hell, even Java with all of its stupidness is easier to use than C++, right?
I’m not knocking C++, and I know it’s pretty much required if you want a job, but I just think it would be better to learn with something more simple. Once he gets used to object-orient programming, then he should try C++.
Then again, I’m just a high school student learning this stuff in my spare time. I’m not really the best one to ask about this. I’m just parroting what I was told by pretty much everyone I asked when I wanted to know how to start.[/quote]
The OP asked he was interested in learning how to program computers, so that is why I recommended c++, reread what he posted and what I posted. He then showed interest in websites, so that is why I recommended html and javascript.
I have a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and very familiar with many different programming languages, and that is why I posted the following information.
jet
A question, I was talking to my brother and he was saying that you need to know alot of different comp. languages to build good websites. Not webpages or blogs but websites like T-Nation, facebook, and digg is this true?
[quote]-ETHAN- wrote:
A question, I was talking to my brother and he was saying that you need to know alot of different comp. languages to build good websites. Not webpages or blogs but websites like T-Nation, facebook, and digg is this true?[/quote]
At a minimum:
HTML / CSS
SQL
JSP( Java Server pages), PHP or PERL
and probably some JavaScript.
[quote]-ETHAN- wrote:
brucevangeorge wrote:
Use a software called Dreamweaver.
Its the photoshop of websites.
Thought about it but would rather learn how to script for myself.[/quote]
Every programmer I know uses Dreamweaver or some similar program. It just saves time by making it quicker. It doesn’t write the code for you any better than MS Word writes letters for you. It just helps speed it up and can flags mistakes.
Dreamweaver (or similar), Photoshop and Imageready are your friends. However DON’T use imageready to write the html. It writes really bad html that cannot be edited.
I learned how to program VB before I got a job at a web dev company where had to learned how to script html. I found the easiest way to learn html is to find a page already created, and manipulate it until it looks exactly the way you want it to.
Do that enough, use the references told to you by others on this post, and you should eventually be able to make your own pages from scratch.
Once you get comfortable with html and basic javascript, then you will get into SQL and web languages.
Also, if you are going to learn, you might as well learn to layout your pages in CSS instead tables. It’s they way the cool kids are doing it.
[quote]grew7 wrote:
Dave’s Site is better than W3, imo. It was more useful to me back when I thought HTML was real programming.
Jetric9 wrote:
-ETHAN- wrote:
I have recently become interested in learning how to program computers and was wondering how one can learn to do thing like make websites?
I know that one must learn things like HTML and others but in what order? are there any good books or sites?
If it’s just websites, then go ahead and google some html tutorials. You’ll also need to learn some javascript, depending on what type of website you want to create.
You say you want to program some computers, then I would recommend learning at least c++ and from there on, you can learn other programming languages since they are somewhat similar. Good luck.
jet
Why C++? The guy doesn’t need all the power of C++. Wouldn’t it be easier for him to start with something simpler? A high-level language like Python, maybe?
Hell, even Java with all of its stupidness is easier to use than C++, right?
I’m not knocking C++, and I know it’s pretty much required if you want a job, but I just think it would be better to learn with something more simple. Once he gets used to object-orient programming, then he should try C++.
Then again, I’m just a high school student learning this stuff in my spare time. I’m not really the best one to ask about this. I’m just parroting what I was told by pretty much everyone I asked when I wanted to know how to start.[/quote]
Pascal or delphi is always a good start to programming because its a case of “You HAVE to do it right or it wont work” whilst HTML is a case of “You dont have to, it just makes your site load faster :)” not like HTML is programming in any way shape or form.
Although i think this is a good time as any to bring up my new site which im currently in the progress of writing
www.nooblets.co.uk , What im hoping to do with it is just to make simple guides for simple lanuages, even if they are not programming (pascal, HTMl, SQL, C++, Java, etc. etc.)
Anyway, w3 schools is a good place to know what things are on a simplified level, if you want to go more advanced you’ll either have to take a college course on it or something.