Need a Metabolism Boost, Advice?

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

What exactly are your goals? That’s going to be the number one guideline that helps us fine-tune your training and nutrition.

It sounds like you’re doing a lot of cardio and a little weight training. It might be beneficial to shift those ratios a bit, depending on what you want to achieve.

This sounds a bit on the low side. You have to adjust calorie intake based on how you’re training and thie results you’re seeing, but there’s a chance that your body finally “figured out” that it’s not getting enough calories, and that’s why progress stalled the last few weeks.

Fast results aren’t always permanent results. Tweak your training, nutrition, and supplements, and then give it some time to work. I looks like you’re already in pretty decent shape, so it’s not like you’ve got 14 pounds of water to drop immediately. On a related note, um, what’s the story behind the avatar pic?

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
Also, when you finish your 5k, at least twice a week, do some jump roping.[/quote]
Can you please explain the logic behind this, because I can’t find any.[/quote]
Because plyometric exercises are a fantastic way to boost the metabolism.[/quote]

isn’t running plyometric?[/quote]

Yes…(lol)[/quote]
Which is great for boosting the metabolism (lol)[/quote]

No need to jump rope then (lol)[/quote]
Maybe she should just run one mile instead of three then.

But she definitely should NOT incorporate tools to train different muscle fibers appropriately, lol.

Just kidding, high intensity work following steady state is smart and effective.

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I would argue the reverse would be true

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

What exactly are your goals? That’s going to be the number one guideline that helps us fine-tune your training and nutrition.

It sounds like you’re doing a lot of cardio and a little weight training. It might be beneficial to shift those ratios a bit, depending on what you want to achieve.

This sounds a bit on the low side. You have to adjust calorie intake based on how you’re training and thie results you’re seeing, but there’s a chance that your body finally “figured out” that it’s not getting enough calories, and that’s why progress stalled the last few weeks.

Fast results aren’t always permanent results. Tweak your training, nutrition, and supplements, and then give it some time to work. I looks like you’re already in pretty decent shape, so it’s not like you’ve got 14 pounds of water to drop immediately. On a related note, um, what’s the story behind the avatar pic?

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
Also, when you finish your 5k, at least twice a week, do some jump roping.[/quote]
Can you please explain the logic behind this, because I can’t find any.[/quote]
Because plyometric exercises are a fantastic way to boost the metabolism.[/quote]

isn’t running plyometric?[/quote]

Yes…(lol)[/quote]
Which is great for boosting the metabolism (lol)[/quote]

No need to jump rope then (lol)[/quote]
Maybe she should just run one mile instead of three then.

But she definitely should NOT incorporate tools to train different muscle fibers appropriately, lol.

Just kidding, high intensity work following steady state is smart and effective.

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I would argue the reverse would be true [/quote]
which ever order you prefer, jumping rope is a high intensity exercise when executed as such and has its effective place.

Double unders are a good way to go with jump rope.

Personally, I hate running.

I just like that a level 0 who joined this month with 60 posts is gonna try to school Colucci.
You may have valid points (maybe not), but you’re on the right track for making friends here!

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I just like that a level 0 who joined this month with 60 posts is gonna try to school Colucci.
You may have valid points (maybe not), but you’re on the right track for making friends here! [/quote]

Levels schmevels. I’m not going to ignore valid points to make “friends”. Politics shouldn’t play in to physiology and don’t really.

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I just like that a level 0 who joined this month with 60 posts is gonna try to school Colucci.
You may have valid points (maybe not), but you’re on the right track for making friends here! [/quote]
Levels schmevels. I’m not going to ignore valid points to make “friends”. Politics shouldn’t play in to physiology and don’t really.[/quote]

Whatever. My point was that there are a lot of people here with a tremendous amount of knowledge+respect. You may have knowledge, but you don’t have respect and won’t get any if you act like a douche here. And if you don’t care about things like that then…

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I just like that a level 0 who joined this month with 60 posts is gonna try to school Colucci.
You may have valid points (maybe not), but you’re on the right track for making friends here! [/quote]
Levels schmevels. I’m not going to ignore valid points to make “friends”. Politics shouldn’t play in to physiology and don’t really.[/quote]

Whatever. My point was that there are a lot of people here with a tremendous amount of knowledge+respect. You may have knowledge, but you don’t have respect and won’t get any if you act like a douche here. And if you don’t care about things like that then…
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Act like a douche how? By answering smart ass comments instead of just kowtowing some dude “with respect”? I answered the lady’s questions forthright and legitimately with effective advice. The rest, other than coluccie voicing his take, was essentially a bandwagon flame fest with no real independent thought.

Maybe we have different definitions of douchebag.

Hold the kool-aid please.

[quote]libra_lady wrote:
Tons of great advice here, I think I have several things I can try to change up what I am doing. Besides, I need an option for the running, daybreak is getting later and later and my entore run is in the dark with no street lights in our neighborhood. I am getting a little uneasy about safety since I runt he same route every morning same time.

Thanks so much guys! [/quote]

This post is what I like to see and the only one that counts really, whoever she drew info. from. Good luck Libra, you’re on the right track! There are many different training styles out there for sure and getting your feet wet to find what you like best is a great step.

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
The advice I gave her will absolutely aid in boosting her metabolism and toning her body, to suggest otherwise is assinine.[/quote]
Heads up, everybody. I’m about to get asinine.

Cargo, your training advice was:
“Also, when you finish your 5k, at least twice a week, do some jump roping” and, regarding lifting, “I think a 3x10 or 3x12 is appropriate.”

I’m disagreeing with both of these points because…

  • Simply tacking jump rope on top of the existing routine is poor training economy. Not only aren’t we clear on exactly how Libra is lifting (we later learned she seems to use higher reps. We’ll get to that in a minute), but she’s already doing what I’d consider to be the high end of cardio, quantity-wise, so it makes no sense to tell her “do some more cardio, that’ll help.” If you were suggesting a jump rope session instead of a few running sessions, that would’ve been more acceptable.

  • A 30-something minute run will lead to decreased jump rope intensity due to general fatigue. Not only will the calorie burn from the running impact how hard the jumping rope can be, but coordination will likely be impacted as well. Some people have a hard enough time jumping rope without tripping multiple times.

This is something you learn after spending time dealing with clients who get frustrated when they trip several times per minute. These interruptions will obviously effect training intensity. In another post, you talked about “high intensity rope work, sprints if you will, on the tail of a 3 mile run…” I believe you’re underestimating the ability of the average person to do “jump rope sprints”, let alone do them right after a half-hour of running hills.

  • Jumping rope immediately after the run can increase the risk of shin splints. Mid-to-long distance running by itself can lead to shin splints/shin strain in some people, even experienced runners. The OP is running on some “very steep hills”, the steeper angle of which can further increase the chance of shin splints.

Jumping rope, by itself, can lead to shin splints in some people, especially those new to or freshly returning to the exercise. Adding the lower leg work of jump rope immediately after steep hill running may lead to excessive stress on the calf, ankle, and foot structures.

  • The OP’s nutrition (coming off a “super low carb” diet, recently re-introducing carbs and fats, pretty low calorie considering the exercise cost) doesn’t currently support an increase in activity. Adding jump rope on top of the training she’s already doing will increase her daily calorie expenditure even more, which makes it that much more urgent that she make the necessary nutrition tweaks.

If anything, it makes more sense to fine-tune the existing training while making diet adjustments, not necessarily increase the training while diet changes are still in-process.

  • While 3x10-12 is a long-standing and super-basic routine, it isn’t appropriate for the OP because of her current situation and goals. With older women especially, building bone density needs to be considered whether the client realizes it or not. Resistance training at a higher intensity (relatively-heavy weights) is much more effective in improving bone density, compared to lighter weight/higher rep training.

Also, while I do understand what you’re saying about Nautilus/Weider/Mentzer/Arnold, yes, different coaches have different training methods, but hands-down, I see the fastest changes in women’s physiques as soon as they begin lifting relatively-heavy on a consistent basis.

That’s why I firmly believe (no pun intended) that the fastest way to address Libra’s loose skin and cellulite is to ditch higher rep work and get into a well-designed lifting plan that has most of the work heavy and lower rep.

And to address one more issue:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
Just kidding, high intensity work following steady state is smart and effective.[/quote]
I would argue the reverse would be true [/quote]
which ever order you prefer, jumping rope is a high intensity exercise when executed as such and has its effective place.[/quote]
It’s not a matter of preference. It’s a matter of it being flat-out less effective to do high intensity cardio after steady state. From a calorie-burning perspective, if you’re going to use both methods in a single session (which isn’t really necessary in the first place), you’ll get the most benefit from doing a period of higher intensity work and then extend the total calories burned by “coasting” with some steady state work to finish the session.

Believe it or not, I’m not trying to hijack this thread or get caught up in an argument. Just explaining my point of view. If Libra is getting confused by all this or has any other questions, definitely toss them up.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
What do you guys think? Does it make sense that we would generally want a fast metabolism?

A fast metabolism implies a higher energy requirement for maintaining life.

I cannot imagine where that would be considered an evolutionary advantage.

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Considering fat loss in modern society, yes.[/quote]

But what if fat loss is a problem of hormone balance and not energy-in versus energy out - i.e., hormone balance determines energy requirements.[/quote]

Its not either/or

Its both, and keep in mind the regular trainer/nutritionally aware/lowish bodyfat/etc is ALREADY operating under FAR BETTER hormonal setting than average overweight/sedentary/total-beginner-to-exercise with multiple pre- markers already.

Clearly, one end of spectrum must focus on improving hormonal setting ASAP (ie. thru regular exercise/nutritional awareness/etc) while CICO gets pretty darn important at the other end.

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
What do you guys think? Does it make sense that we would generally want a fast metabolism?

A fast metabolism implies a higher energy requirement for maintaining life.

I cannot imagine where that would be considered an evolutionary advantage.

[/quote]
Considering fat loss in modern society, yes.[/quote]

But what if fat loss is a problem of hormone balance and not energy-in versus energy out - i.e., hormone balance determines energy requirements.[/quote]

Its not either/or

Its both, and keep in mind the regular trainer/nutritionally aware/lowish bodyfat/etc is ALREADY operating under FAR BETTER hormonal setting than average overweight/sedentary/total-beginner-to-exercise with multiple pre- markers already.

Clearly, one end of spectrum must focus on improving hormonal setting ASAP (ie. thru regular exercise/nutritional awareness/etc) while CICO gets pretty darn important at the other end.

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I was being very simplistic. I do believe lifestyle - diet, sleep, stress, exercise or lack thereof - is the biggest catalyst for hormonal response.

Our biology is a series of feedback upon feedback upon feedback. I think diet is the key to it because every chemical that enters our guts affects that biology.

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
The advice I gave her will absolutely aid in boosting her metabolism and toning her body, to suggest otherwise is assinine.[/quote]
Heads up, everybody. I’m about to get asinine.

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Believe it or not, I’m not trying to hijack this thread or get caught up in an argument. Just explaining my point of view. If Libra is getting confused by all this or has any other questions, definitely toss them up.[/quote]

While some of these ‘arguments’ on here are stupid to happen in the first place, I really do appreciate when it comes to the level of ‘ok, this is what I said, this is why, this is what I know, this is what I have experience with’. It gives a level of insight that’s otherwise lost.