need a little help

alright fellas i need some help i want to do a cycle, i want HUGE strength gains, no edema, no hair falling out, no bitch tits, non of that crap, i dont really care about how much muscle i gain i just want insane strength gains, and i am on a tight budget, i am 5’10" 190, powerlifter/football player, 20 years of age, i need to know everything i need for a cycle. peace

Type “Steroid Newbie Thread” into the search engine. Read it.

And please read “steroids for dummies”

It’s not a joke

I don’t think you know enough about androgens to be thinking about cycling.

Read, read and then read again

and i want a big bag of money but i dont want to do anything to get it

read ALOT more. wait about 3 more years and earn some more money, no such thing as cheap AAS!!

i want HUGE strength gains, no edema, no hair falling out, no bitch tits, non of that crap, i dont really care about how much muscle i gain i just want insane strength gains,

Damn, you are really asking for alot here. What you are asking for is a steroid that gives you insane strength increases with no side effects that is cost effective. NOT. Sorry bro. It just does not exist. Halotestin(sp) comes to mind for your goal but guess what…liver toxic and I do not believe it is cheap either not to mention the price of that strength usually comes with a dramatic shift in attitude if you know what I mean. Never tried it nor would I care too from what I have read. Need to eduacate yourself a little more you will definately thank us later. Just remember everything has side effects, some more than others.

And I want a bunch of young nubile virgins waiting for me in my bedroom when I get home! Is this guy kidding or what?

Bro, go do some reading and come back when you get educated.

first off i would like to say, i know a lot about steroids, and a lot about training, so get off my nuts, i wanted to see how much help anyone could have been if i didnt know anything, looks like my little experiment worked, why some of you even reply to some of these with out giving the slightest bit of intelligent information, i dont know, after 10 years, it still amazes me the amount of crap that is floating out there.

let’s get this straight, you know alot about steroids yet you come here with no proposed cycle or any information on your prior use. then you mention after 10 years, your first experience with AAS was at 10 years old and you’re only a buck ninety. LOL GET A LIFE!!!

first off i would like to say, i know a lot about steroids, and a lot about training, so get off my nuts, i wanted to see how much help anyone could have been if i didnt know anything, looks like my little experiment worked, why some of you even reply to some of these with out giving the slightest bit of intelligent information, i dont know, after 10 years, it still amazes me the amount of crap that is floating out there.

You really show your IQ here. The average person with an average IQ does not respond in such a manner. An individual who is trying to act like they know more than what they really do does respond this way. My OPINION is that you know very little if any information and were hoping for a quick fix. When you did not get that you came back with your “little experiment” comment. Most of us are adults here so it is going to be pretty damn hard to fool us. Now if it really is the case that you do have a vast knowledge then you still have a childish IQ in my OPINION because you have nothing better to do with your time than to waste others. We are here to help people that want to put an honest effort into their learnings. We ask that one does some research on their own. I gave you some information. You could have taken the information and did a search and then found everything you needed to know. Did you do that? Oh, I forgot you are a steroid guru where you did not need to do so. Sorry for wasting your time oh great one.

hey drago jump the hell off your roid horse the kid wants advise just like i did and some of you ass wipes just eat them up like there stupid well guess what they or should i say we are but we want help that is why we ask you supposibly expierienced juicers for help hell dude do you get a charge outta slamming dudes ? give some adevise like some of the more concerned dudes do in the since that they are giving info of things they realized that they shouldnt have did the in that you guy s learned from expierience. i thought that is what this forum is all about?? not to hammer guys that are curious

Say you have an interest in a conversation/topic that is being discussed amongst a group of people. Right at your fingertips is most likeley the answer to any ? you may have, and this source of information is comprised of all the time/effort that the people having the conversation have put in to the topic. Choosing to turn a blind eye to that source that is available to you, and randomly ask whatever unstructured ? you have shows two things that in my opinion are synonymous with eachother, laziness and stupidity. Failure to have the common sense to realize this can cause people who do have the rational to understand this get agitated.

first off i have never juiced, and there is nothing wrong with being 190 especially if i am a reciever, and i have some pretty decent numbers for having come back from two serious injuries, and for anyone who does doubt me, i was thinking of taking halotestin, which DOES NOT aromatize to the er, and DOES NOT cause edema(water retention), and since no aromatization, no bitch tits, halotestin also has a nice reputation for increasing strength, wow gee everything i asked for, oh its not really cost efficient, but i’m pretty sure if i wanted it bad enough i’d get the money, whats that you say liver toxic, oh yes all 17-alpha-alkylated compounds run a risk of liver damage, and so does acetaminophen, the main ingredient in tylenol, and so does binge drinking which most college kids, like this exercise science student is guilty of from time to time…on a final note instead of cutting people up for what they say help them, be a descent person, and help give tips, not rip them apart…

i almost forgot, thank you to those of you who did give help…

Sorry Speed I think there was a misunderstanding here amongst the guys. You see guys are tired of answering the same questions repetively and are a little sensitive on that issue. They like it if you can show that you have done some research in you posts. That way they can dole out advice in good concience that A. they know you won’t fuck yourself up and B. You have the rudimentry knowledge to understand the reasoning behind the advise that is given… so they are not wasting their time. and C. Replying takes time so if you want to take of our time you have to show that you gave of your time in researching as much as you could without our direction. Its just a matter of respect bro.
In your question you did not indicate that you had any knowledge, which you obviously do (from your last post) this offended a lot of the guys so you the reaction you got was casued by this.

To answer you question about a good cycle I think a trenbolone/winstrol cycle would be the best for you. These drugs do no aromatize, you will retain very little water and your strength will increase pretty good. This is a fairly affordable cycle and the drugs should be easier to obtain. I think also Tren by itself could work quite well for you.

hey speed guys like you make the vets not want to try and help people who want to learn ,because they are`nt sure if the person is sincere or not.leave the childish games at home.also you should be a little more respectful of the members and vets who have made this home!

hey fellas, i wasnt tryin to start anything i definitely think that there was a big misunderstanding, and i was just tryin to defend myself, you got to sometimes, hey again i do appreciate the advise a whole lot, thats why i cam to the forum, now that all the shit is done and gone, and everyone has come to terms, does anybody else have any good cycles in mind, i think the halotestin fits the bill, tren/wintstrol, ill have to check it out, my hook up says he can get anything i want so well see, thanks again fellas

If you change your attitude a little you might get a little more help to the questions that you seek. If you come off as a know it all or a smart ass you will most likely get nothing. I, most of the time will try and be decent. Enough said. Just remember, play nice.

Personally I think you tried to set us up so you’d get a laugh out of it and feel self righteous. Fuck off dude, I don’t care whether your sincere or not anymore by the way you started the thread. Your certainly not worth the time. And if anything you owe the board an apology not the other way around. Go and pull someone else’s wanker.

Stenox also known as Halotestin, has an extreme androgenic effect and a very slight anabolic effect. With this combination, a person can expect a great increase in muscle hardness and strength with no real gain in size or weight. Because of the very high androgenic effect, many athletes have reported high levels of aggression making their workouts extremely intense. A common dosage of Stenox is in the range of 20-30 mg which is between 8 and 12 tablets for a 4-6 week cycle. At this level an athlete can expect massive strength gains with a very low tendency of water and salt retention. Stenox is considered to be the most toxic oral steroid and has a high rate of side effect occurrences. This fact has kept most people, especially women, away from this compound. Stenox is also very hard on the liver and should never exceed 30 mg/day. Its strong androgenic characteristics have been commonly responsible for liver damage, headaches, irritability, aggressiveness, acne, gastrointestinal pain, virilization in women, and suppression of natural hormone levels.

I would stay away from the Halo. You specifically said you wanted a minimum of sides and by you choosing this you are walking right into the lions den. I do not need to be a genius to know not to fuck with this shit. You get turned into a certifiable sociaopath for what? Choose wisely.