[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]jahall wrote:
Ingram will win it. I was at the game, the man is an animal. Florida could do NOTHING to stop him.[/quote]
Gerhart has more yards and touchdowns than Ingram.[/quote]
7 of the defenses Ingram had to run against were better than any Stanford played all year.
[quote]denv23 wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]jahall wrote:
Ingram will win it. I was at the game, the man is an animal. Florida could do NOTHING to stop him.[/quote]
Gerhart has more yards and touchdowns than Ingram.[/quote]
7 of the defenses Ingram had to run against were better than any Stanford played all year.[/quote]
i think thats a slight stretch, but gerhart had over 200 more yards and 11 MORE TOUCHDOWNS and played in one less game than ingram did. if suh doesnt win, gerhart should (which is a shame because they will probably finish 4th and 5th respectively).
Suh is without a doubt the best player. Nebraska has one of the top defenses in the country, and the odds are that you can’t name anybody else on that defense. Some people can name Crick, but that’s just because he had a big game when all of the focus was on a Suh. Texas was double teaming, triple teaming, and even cheap shotting Suh, yet he still had 4.5 sacks.
Unfortunately, the award will likely go to Ingram. He’s the best player on the best team. At least offensively. That’s usually who the award goes to. The one hope is that I seem to be hearing a lot of this. The voters may go a different way finally.
[quote]jahall wrote:
Florida could do NOTHING to stop him.[/quote]
If I’m not mistaken, he averaged only barely 4.0 yards per carry.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Also the “rumor” is they want a non-QB this year. [/quote]
“Rumor” is that none of the quarterbacks are deserving.
If the Heisman trophy were truly for the best player in football, it would go to Suh, no question. But these days it is just an award they give to a quarterback on one of the top 2 teams.
How about this idea though? Instead of giving him the Heisman, make an award for best defensive lineman in college football and name it the Ndamukong Trophy. Seriously, there has not been a more dominant defensive lineman in many many years, and I am not just saying that because I live in Omaha.
IMO Suh should win it just from that sack of McCoy when Suh threw him like a shotput. That was awesome.
[quote]denv23 wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]jahall wrote:
Ingram will win it. I was at the game, the man is an animal. Florida could do NOTHING to stop him.[/quote]
Gerhart has more yards and touchdowns than Ingram.[/quote]
7 of the defenses Ingram had to run against were better than any Stanford played all year.[/quote]
Well Auburn certainly wasn’t one of those defenses, yet they shut Ingram down. Gerhart, however, dominated in the big games Stanford played.
The Heisman is supposed to go to the best player and Ingram isn’t even the best running back.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
IMO Suh should win it just from that sack of McCoy when Suh threw him like a shotput. That was awesome. [/quote]
Yeah. That was fun to watch. He’s had several of those this year on some QBs I love to hate, most notably Steven Sheffield of Texas Tech. He was tearing NU’s D apart, but slowed down quite a bit after Suh planted him. Hard.
Well,the Outland Trophy is no regular old paper weight…which Suh will win. But,shit I would put a Heisman vote in for Suh before I would my own McCoy. McCoy hasn’t play near as well as he did last year…just as Tebow hasn’t either.
I would love to see an OL or DL lineman win the Heisman for a change.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
IMO Suh should win it just from that sack of McCoy when Suh threw him like a shotput. That was awesome. [/quote]
That and the tackle where Suh was held by a Texas OL and suh just cloth line McBOY and took him right to the ground.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
IMO Suh should win it just from that sack of McCoy when Suh threw him like a shotput. That was awesome. [/quote]
Yes, I know I am from NE but he is still the best player in college football.
[quote]BradyZ wrote:
Yes, I know I am from NE but he is still the best player in college football.
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Makes me wonder why texas did not double team suh more. I think I only saw two instances in that clip where they made a an effort to double him. Maybe its just the nature of zone blocking.
[quote]iwong wrote:
[quote]BradyZ wrote:
Yes, I know I am from NE but he is still the best player in college football.
Makes me wonder why texas did not double team suh more. I think I only saw two instances in that clip where they made a an effort to double him. Maybe its just the nature of zone blocking.[/quote]
It’s the nature of zone-blocking in a spread offense with no fullback.
[quote]iwong wrote:
[quote]BradyZ wrote:
Yes, I know I am from NE but he is still the best player in college football.
Makes me wonder why texas did not double team suh more. I think I only saw two instances in that clip where they made a an effort to double him. Maybe its just the nature of zone blocking.[/quote]
They also kept calling run plays to their right side. I was watching the game with some UT fans and they kept yelling “NOOOOOOO! DON’T RUN IT AT 93 AGAIN!!!”