Ncsugrad's TRT Log / Diary

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I am doing pretty good… I know this is almost turning into a sex diary, but that was my biggest issue, so I guess it is what it is

Had quick/easy sex the last few days, even once this morning, which has not happened in literally over a year. I’ve never been huge on morning sex but could at least do it without any issues… but when all this started it was a no-go for me, I went numb fast so there was no way I was getting to the finish line. Best case it would take forever, and even then I don’t think it’s happened in probably 7 months.

I know “quick” isn’t the word most guys want to have, but trust me, after dealing with anorgasmia, you will be happy that quick is even an option.

This morning everything was normal, so I am feeling pretty optimistic right now.

Cream arrives today, so I am going to start on that soon. Supposedly the benefits are increased libido so we’ll see what happens. I feel like worst case I can go back to injections 3x a week and be in pretty good shape

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I had the same issue with anorgasmia, probably self-induced with porn and masturbation when I was younger. Now I have completely switched and have trouble lasting longer than five minutes unless I get pretty drunk. It sucks, went from my wife thinking something was wrong with her to her going “what the fuck, what about me?”.

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Ah yeah, that does suck too long term but hopefully once I’m confident holding back won’t make it not happen at all I’ll be able to have a little more control than I’ve bothered with recently

You could always try SSRI’s. Just kidding. But I seriously saw an ad on Facebook for some kind of ssri being prescribed to curb premature ejaculation. W. T. F.

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Yeah that will never happen haha. I need to get my hands on some viagra or cialis and see if that will help. I would love all the other benefits others seem to get from it also. Shits just so damn expensive.

I was reading your discussion with hardartery about beers and estrogen a couple weeks ago and thought I would chime in. The hoppier (bitter) the beer the more estrogenic it will be. So if you are concerned about it increasing, pay attention to the IBU of the beer if available. Lower on the IBU scale the less estrogenic. IPA’s are the one’s that if you respond to the phytoestrogens that will be the most estrogenic.

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Good to know. I read something about Cialis being anti estrogen? Weird. I haven’t found the same for Viagra though. My E was so low for so long I think I’m just going to have to get used to it being up to normal or “TRT” normal. Anything anti E for me has historically been quite bad, super impossible to orgasm, numb dick, etc. All the usual stuff.

I got my cream yesterday, tried it this morning… I haven’t decided if I’m going to change over to it now or put it in the drawer until after my wedding. I’m getting married in like 10 days so I’m going to be pissed if it takes me 2-3 weeks to get used to the cream and I fall back into my old anorgasmia ways in the meantime… I haven’t decided just yet, guess we’ll see

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Oh, and as far as the Viagra/Cialis goes… you can get it from India for next to nothing. I can’t post sources on this forum but there are def. some legit ones and they are super cheap. Takes 2 weeks or so to get it but it’s not bad.

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Yeah i know of one but have been sketched out on buying anything from over there. Do you know if they would they accept visa gift cards for payment rather than credit cards on those sites?

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I use bitcoin instead, that’s as anonymous as it gets and a lot of them give a discount for using it. You just need to be sure it’s a legit place because there’s nothing you can do to get your money back after you send it on bitcoin

Not sure if you’re familiar with bitcoin but it’s not too bad after you get through the process once.

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Nope not familiar with it at all except for the general idea of it.

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coinbase has a way you can buy “bitcoins” with a bank account or credit card, then you can send those bitcoins to whoever. Sometimes there’s a waiting period on new accounts to help w/fraud but yeah, that’s the easiest way I’ve found

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Cream seems to be working pretty well. One issue is I’m wired an hour or two after application, so applying before bed may not be the best idea as now I have a ton of energy. We’ll see if I get used to it I guess. I’ve been doing 3 clicks in the morning and 1 at night.

My appetite is out of control lately. I hope some of this food is being used to build muscle and not fat, haha. I’m probably eating 30-40% more per day than I used to and am still hungry most of the time. Not sure how TRT does that but I don’t know what else it could be

High E symptoms are gone, no more swollen feet or hands

Sex wise today was the best day since starting on cream so that’s a plus. I’m not going numb 80% through sex like I used to before TRT so that is very nice. Refractory period is still longer than I’d like. Once a day I can usually do with some effort but if I get to 2 days things get way easier. If I can get to easily having sex every day and occasionally twice a day I would be happy with where I’m at. I’m going to test prolactin on my next blood tests

I’m cut off until the wedding so no sex updates (lol) for a week.

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NCSUGRAD2002 - guys who don’t want to talk about “quick” have never suffered from anorgasmia. Your experience seems mild.

RISE80 - Five minutes would be WONDERFUL. I would take that prescription any day.

I can go for DAYS without the ability to orgasm regardless of the stimulation, excitement, or visual.

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Long time Bitcoin supporter here. Pro tip: GNT is gonna skyrocket, if you can figure out how to get your hands on it.

Thats when you really have it down, when you can double or triple your bitcoin before buying whatever you want with it :slight_smile:

I despise coinbase though, they banned our account because of TRT.

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I guess it’s been 2 weeks since I updated… wow.

I got married, went on a honeymoon and now I’m back at work.

I’ve been a bit all over the place… overall I am still doing better than pre TRT, but not as good as I was at the end of doing injections. I’ve been using the cream for roughly 3 weeks now if memory serves. I’ve been doing 3 clicks per day (150mg). 2 in the morning, 1 at night.

I keep going back and forth between two “states” if you will, sexually speaking. I either am SUPER hard… like, too much viagra level hard, but don’t have that much sensitivity, OR I have fairly normal sensitivity (not quite as good as when I stopped injections/switched to cream but better than pre-TRT) but not as ridiculously hard. I prefer the not as ridiculously hard option usually.

I’m not sure if my feeling a little worse since switching to cream is a dosage issue (too high or too low?) or too much DHT or what exactly, but I don’t feel as good as I did when I was on injections (surprisingly).

I no longer have acne, oily skin or the more aggressive feeling that I did towards the end of injections and my sleep is back to normal. I’m wondering if my dose is too low but I’m just not sure. Long term I would seriously consider going back to injections if I don’t get back to feeling like I did, but want to finish out the tube I have of cream and do blood work to see where I’m at. If I’m way low or way high then I’ll make that adjustment and try again. I’d rather stick with cream as I really don’t love dealing with injections but if injections work better for me then so be it, I’ll switch back.

I have a feeling that I went through a period where I was using the cream and still getting some T from the last few injections not being totally used up, and now I’ve dropped down to cream only levels. I’m just not sure if I’m using enough or not.

Part of me wonders if my E is too LOW now as it was super low to begin with and the cream is touted as having less of an effect on E2, so I wonder if I actually NEED more E2 or something. I’m not sure

Anyways. I don’t have a ton of day by day details to post. But I pretty much had sex daily for 2 weeks straight and for the first 10 days or so I didn’t have any issues, could be quick if I wanted, no numbness, etc. Towards the end I started feeling like I was going backwards, even skipping a day or two didn’t help… but I’m hoping to just chalk it up as a lot of honeymoon action, haha. I started having to stop to get some feeling back as I would go numb, etc. Very annoying and a bit scary after feeling better for the last little while

That’s about all I’ve got for now. I should be coming due for another appt and blood work sometime soon so I’ll post that once I know more.

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Congrats on the wedding!

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Thanks! @rise80

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So I was due for my 12 week blood work, I had that drawn on Friday and got results today.

The short version is holy shit, cream certainly works as far as blood levels are concerned. That was on 2 clicks that morning and maybe 1 the night before. A lot of people take 4-6 clicks per day while I’m only at 3… their levels have to be through the roof.

Total T was >1500, free T was 40 on a normal range of [8.7-25.1]

SHBG has gone down from 90, it was originally 150… so I guess that’s a plus?

The bad news is TSH seems to keep going up. It was at 2 a year ago, then 2.6 right before starting TRT, now it’s almost 3… so I think I’m going to do ft3 ft4 and rt3 testing next to see what’s going on.

Prolactin was also high but the same as it’s been every time I’ve tested it when I wasn’t trying out Cabergoline. 20.8 [4-15.2]. I had had sex < 12 hours before the test if that makes any difference. I’ve read conflicting answers on whether it skews the test or not.

RDW was low, 11.8 [12.3-15.4] which from googling sounds like it could be an iron or Vitamin B deficiency. Iron would make the most sense to how I feel.

DHEA was on the low end. 152 [102-416]. I haven’t been supplementing DHEA so I’m not shocked about this one. I may add this.

Estradiol was “high” but with the high T I’m not that worried about it. 73 [8-35]

These were probably “peak” measurements as it was about 5 hours after application. I do wonder what trough would look like

I can post the full report if anyone wants to see it but most everything else was normal. Cholesterol was “high” but by 1 point so that shouldn’t be a big deal, etc.

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I have to supplement all of the minerals a little on TRT. I seem to burn through them faster than I can get them from the food.

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I eat pretty poorly on top of that. Not sure if I’ll ever get the nutrients I need from pizza and McDonald’s, lol. The new wife is working on that.

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Don’t fret over those numbers. They are almost identical to mine. I’m on daily IM injections. Welcome to the Mile high T club. Your free t-shirt will arrive in 4-6 weeks.

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