lol, sounds good. I mean my free T got up to 39 last time I was on it so I think it was the real deal but who knows. I’ll see if I can get the medquest version
I do the same “I should wait a few days and it’ll be more intense” thing… rarely have the willpower to make it more than one skipped day though haha. The struggle. I see people on Facebook and reddit talking about not having sex for months and the idea of that being a thing ever in my life pretty much terrifies me.
I don’t think you can get this from Defy – I believe only APS (not sure what that is), Empower, and Hallandale are offered.
I’ve never had it that bad…but I have gone as much as 2 weeks without desire to have sex. That might be why I noticed more of a libido boost from the ball cream than you – your libido seems to naturally run higher, so you have a better starting point. My sex drive has always been low in comparison to my peers.
Ah. I knew they had one other pharmacy other than Empower and was hoping it was Medquest, but you’re right… Hallandale and Empower looks like the only two.
Can you check on Defy’s website if you get a chance and see if you can find the cream? I can’t find it on there anywhere. I was going to order some but just placed the order without it, can’t find it anywhere. I almost think it’s gone or something.
Maybe so. I’ve always wanted it even when I don’t want it, I guess there’s probably some psychological reason of needing to feeling wanted, etc. but I’ll steer clear of therapy for now. I’d literally be having wet dreams by 2 weeks I think though. My ex limited me to once once a week and I started having them after a few months of that… def not ideal. She’s an ex for a reason I suppose.
It’s there – just saw it. Search for Testosterone Cream, 30mL. Hope you find it!
Damn! That is crazy. I’ve never even had a wet dream.
Thanks, found it. Geez, not sure why I had so much trouble.
@enackers the pharmacy choices I have are “APS”, “Empower” and “Hallendale”. Any suggestions between those three? I know that’s not your preference but that’s my options at the moment.
Yikes that sucks. Hallendale is supposably a really high quality pharmacy. I would ask which pharmacy has their cream independently tested and go with them. If none of them test (like medquest - why we use them) I would just go with empower. Just remember if you feel like its not working, it could be the batch, and you can always try a different bottle or tell the doctors office you dont think its a good batch.
Its not like its always bad, it seems like 90% or more are always legit, but that one time it doesn’t work is when you need to keep this issue at the front of your mind. This is very important for guys who take cream alone.
You know you’re old when you’re excited about new toys like this… My wife dubbed it the “least sexy amazon package she’s ever opened for me”
Two updates. Nose sprayer and job interview, what a combo.
Nose sprayer seems to help. It’s really, really weird how much liquid goes in one nostril before anything starts coming out the other side but after it’s done my nose feels kind of like skin does after you put lotion on it. It’s like a nice moist feeling and I’m usually super clear for a bit. I’m still dependent on afrin right now because I used it too long but there have been a few periods after using it where I got all cleared up and man it feels good. I’m going to keep going with it and see what happens. Next stage is going to be getting off afrin again and seeing how the nose sprayer works by itself. No full blown freak outs this week but I swear if my wife wasn’t here for me to cuddle and hold on to I would have had a full freak out for sure. It’s all in my brain. I breathe fine all day even congested half the time and fine but if I start paying attention to my breathing it can get freaked out.
Job interview. Had a video interview today for a job I applied for like 6 months ago. Hiring manager has tried to visit a few times but Covid keeps coming up. Was supposed to be an hour and ended up being 2 hours of him showing me a lot of their products and even sales plans for the year and stuff like that, so almost certain I’ll get an offer on that one. Wants me to go to the corp office next week, it’s about a 3 hour drive for me.
The part I’m struggling with is a combo of the money and how much my situation has changed at my current job. The money is basically the same but it’s less base and more commission. There’s some room to make more than I’ve ever made but it would take some stars aligning. My work situation now is also drastically better than when I applied. Asshole boss doesn’t have anything to do with me any more and I work from wherever I want. The new plant they have me selling for us full and has that contract for at least 2 more years, so really managing that customer is the biggest part of my job. Ie I could be on easy street where I’m at for the next few years if I stay. Or, they could realize I don’t have much going on and get rid of me. Never really know.
It’s going to be a tough decision. New job will start with 4 weeks vacation so that’s better than I have now. Includes company car that can be used for personal travel too, all expenses paid. But I’ll be doing mostly day trips to customers 2-3 days a week if possible where right now it’s barely any. 401K is better at my current job. Healthcare seems about the same, probably cheaper w/kids at new place.
Lots to think about. I’m going to continue down the path and see what they offer
We just keep printing money in the U.S.!! We also have 27 trillion in debt… 0% interest rates for the forseeable future……. hardly any production in the U.S. This will all cause some serious future pain. The pain will be some serious inflation. That’s why you see gold hitting all time highs right now. Lots of people getting out of the U.S. dollar that won’t be worth much in a few years.
We’ll get through it but it will sting quite a bit very soon.
People have been saying that for like 50 years and nothing significant has happened. I do agree we have a spending problem but until the public actually is willing to give up something I don’t see how it will ever stop. It’s like the unwritten rule between the two parties… they both get a good chunk of what they want (military/tax vs. social spending in very board terms) and they both act like it’s a win. It’s a mess.
I do think you’re right. We’ve kicked the can for many years and created a bubble. At some point, you have to pay up or let the bubble pop. The taxes we collect will start to not cover the interest payments. Who knows, we may be able to kick the can a few more years and prolong the inevitable. But in the end, the dollar will plummet. We’ll see cost of goods going up, shortages due to price ceilings put in by the government, real economic turmoil(all of which we’ll get through as with other bubbles and crashes).
To fix the problem, we’d have to raise taxes, raise interest rates, and cut spending…all of which are not popular ideas. I think I’m going to bet on gold.
Bubble will pop because there is no foundation.
Brother, how much caffeine do you consume? When’s the last time you took a break?
I can’t tell you how eye-opening it’s been for me since dropping it 10 days ago. I had no idea I had anxiety and was sleeping that badly. Massive difference now.
Me? I’m 10 years sober from the caffeine 
Nah I used to drink it pretty regularly but stopped. I realized I felt a little better right after I drank it but worse the rest of the time so it didn’t really make sense. I remember some wicked headaches from the withdrawal though. The most I have now is a tea for lunch sometimes, but I’ve cut that out too since the whole panic attack thing happened. I’m mostly laid back so caffeine isn’t really my thing
That’s awesome that getting away from it helped you that much. It’s hard to tell I guess until you’re away from it. Kind of like getting away from a crazy ex girlfriend, haha
Good to know. If you were still on it, I’d say that’s definitely something to cut out, but you clearly have a handle on it. Hope you’ve been sleeping better, man! There’s nothing worse than a bad night of sleep.
Well… hopefully my nose issues are going in the right direction. I got caught in the trap of using Afrin because congestion was giving me so much anxiety and Afrin was a quick fix, the downside is that then turned into me needing Afrin to not be congested so I was using it constantly. If you’ve ever used Afrin for very long you probably already know when you stop the rebound congestion is horrendous , so that’s what I’ve been dealing with the last day or two.
I think I’m through the worst of it though. I’ve been using the dexter nose sprayer 1-2x a day to try to keep cleared out as much as I can. I can sort of halfway breathe through my nose again and I feel way better than I did while I was using Afrin. I think one thing that was killing me is Afrin is a stimulant… so I was already super worried about being able to sleep, then I was taking a stimulant before trying to go to bed, then couldn’t sleep and that set off the whole freak out session. I feel better without it, even being a bit congested still.
Hopefully tomorrow I’ll be back close to normal. We’ll see I guess.
Oh–job update. I’m at my last interview for the job I’ve been looking at. They’re bringing me to their corp headquarters on Wednesday to meet the president of the company and a few other people pretty high up, so they def seem serious. We’ll see how it goes. My current situation is so much better than it was 6 months ago that I’m really conflicted but I wanted to keep going through the process and see what they end up offering. Worst case, we can’t make a deal and I’m fine with that.
T update–ordered my cream earlier this week, should be here next week, so I can give that a try and see if I can get a little boost out of it. I think I’m just going to try a click in the morning to start with and see how that does.
I thought you were asking me because I am no saint when it comes to caffeine.how did you manage to quit the coffee. Now I’m Hooked on this drink called uptime.
I tried when I started TRT due to the sleeping issues then, but couldnt. Headaches were TERRIBLE and I could really feel my head bumping. I remember I was waiting my GF outside of her house and was going in that time to take decaffenated to at least get the taste, but hell the head still hurted. And on some of the withdrawal days I was getting one coffee afternoon and everything was getting bright and shiny then, the head was getting relaxed. The idea was to learn to skip the two morning coffees and only get one at noon, but I couldnt even get used to that.
Seems Im very deeply addicted to caffeine, but to be honest I drink with moderation and I dont think it affects me negatively(except I cannot go without it). Hormonal fluctuations and stress have much more powerful effect on my sleep than a couple of coffees.
Now my routine is 2 costa coffees from the shop next to my place every morning after waking up and no more in the day. In fasting days I consume them plain, on non-fasting days before workout with sugar, milk and a large twix 
How long did you try going without caffeine? I can’t remember how long the headaches lasted for me, I’m guessing something like 2-3 days
Gotta cold turkey it IMO and grind through. Unless you have the will power to really follow some kind of tapering off plan… most people don’t have the patience for that though
