[quote]therajraj wrote:
How many here would take Lebron over Kobe in a one-on-one game?[/quote]
At their current stages, that’s easy.
If we’re going to speculate on each of them in their athletic primes, then it’s much closer. I’ve still got MJ over Bryant, but James vs Bryant becomes a legit discussion.
As does Durant vs Bryant – well, a 28-yr old future version of Durant – because only one of those guys is getting a clean look every single time. (hint: and it’s not Bryant)
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Y’all are ridiculous. Bryant kicks the shit out of ALL OF 'EM in a game of one-on-one. I’ll post a vid later where NBA players talk about this, and it’s one vote shy of being unanimous in Bryants favor. Remember, there are several interviews with Phil Jackson where Jackson emphatically states that Bryant is CONSIDERABLY more skilled than Jordan. One-on-one is what Bryant does. He’s not losing.[/quote]
LMAO.
Yeah, NBA players are fantastic evaluators of other players, definitely not biased at all. That’s why ex-NBA players make such great GMs and owners.
Who gives a shit what the players think.
How the fuck would you know 1-on-1 is where Bryant is best? Have you ever seen him play 1-on-1 ever in your life?[/quote]
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
He crossed Knicks owner James Dolan, Dolan felt he went behind the knicks back and negotiated for more guaranteed money from the Rockets, Dolan felt slighted thus this trade being made. I am very upset about this, Lins upside is much more than Felton who is what he is. I hope at the very least a sign and trade can happen with the Rockets…but this hurts I really think Lin can be a top 10-15 Pg in the league…[/quote]
That Tebow-Lin parallel is becoming eerily similar.
I don’t know though Matty, are you fully sold on Lin as a player?? (a good buddy of mine is die hard NYK fan and he was hoping they’d let Lin go from day-one. his biggest beef: that they didnt target Dragic all along)
Personally, I’d like to see even half-a-season from Lin before I pass judgement.
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Sold would be a bit much…but his ceiling is higher than Raymond Felton. Felton is what he is a decent starting pg, what you see is what you get. With Lin, sure its a possibility he becomes a scrub, but his ceiling from what I have seen is the ability to be a top 15 pg in the league…possibly of the Andre Miller ilk?
I say fuck it and still resign Lin, this is a 3 year team, the knicks are already over the cap and his poison pill last year may be valuable in a sense as it is an expiring contract if he doesn’t pan out. It aint my money start Lin and Felton in the backcourt and rotate JR smith and Kidd into the mix.
3 Pgs on a team with 'Melo? Surely Knick management and Woodson aren’t that dumb. Unless 'Melo significantly changes his game there’s absolutely no need for Lin. The argument for Felton is that he played pretty well for the time he was a Knick. Him and A’mare gelled to a degree. We don’t really know how well Lin fits into the team with a proper training camp behind him. However, the argument for Lin is that he likes to play (from the limited time we’ve seen him) a more aggressive/Russell Westbrook style of basketball than your textbook point guard, which could better complement with 'Melo’s brand of playing. 'Melo doesn’t really need to get the ball, he’s good at creating his own shot.
They should have never signed Felton and instead engaged Lin early in the process. Essentially, they should have sat his ass down and told him that he’s allowed to explore the market but that there’s a mutual first-to-know basis between him and the Knicks. Lin has developed a little bit of an ego but part of any team’s management responsibility is to address things like that. Same thing happened to a greater extent in Orlando with Dwight. Many of these NBA players are fickle (for Lin, inexperienced and naive may be a better description) and submissive to non-BS authority. Their protection comes from their powerful friends and probably more significantly, their agents.
its actually 4 pgs on the roster, and while you may think its stupid to have that many pgs on the roster I think its truly stupid to let him go. Actually with Melo on the team I would rather more facilitators on the team. Depending on the matchup starting Felton and Lin in the backcourt may work. In other matchups starting JR Smith until Shump is healthy would suffice. Felton performed arguably at his best with D’antoni as his coach which would no longer be the case. I disagree with you and think no matter how lopsided the roster would be with PGs you must match the Rockets offer.
Don’t get me wrong I would love to see Lin stay with the Knicks but 1) it might not make basketball-wise 2) it doesn’t appear to be smart dollar-wise and 3) Lin’s actions have been pretty hostile and possibly a passive aggressive way of saying he doesn’t want to be a Knickerbocker. I dunno maybe he likes Houston because it has a pretty big Asian population.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So is anyone going to give a fuck about Lin now that he’s in Houston?
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Depends on how he does. If he crashes he fades into obscurity. If he sets the world on fire [again] the Rockets become relevant [again]. My bet is he falls somewhere in the middle. Even at that he’ll bring a level of notoriety that hasn’t been around here in a long time. Personally, I’d like to see him do well just 'cause he comes across as a humble, hard working kid who didn’t let his meteoric rise to fame get to his head. The way he carried himself through all of that shit was more impressive [to me] than anything he did on the court.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So is anyone going to give a fuck about Lin now that he’s in Houston?
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Wrong question raj. Of course people are going to be paying attention to Lin. The better question is anyone going to give a fuck about the Knicks now that Lin is gone. Jeremy Lin was the only reason the Knicks were relevant last season, sans Lin and with Brooklyn in the spotlight they likely won’t be grabbing headlines anymore (maybe if J. Kidd turns up to a game tipsy or wasted).
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So is anyone going to give a fuck about Lin now that he’s in Houston?
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There was a poster on here who wanted to have his babies, dont remember if it was a sincere lin man crush, or just catching a semi cause he was on the knicks.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So is anyone going to give a fuck about Lin now that he’s in Houston?
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Depends on how he does. If he crashes he fades into obscurity. If he sets the world on fire [again] the Rockets become relevant [again]. My bet is he falls somewhere in the middle. Even at that he’ll bring a level of notoriety that hasn’t been around here in a long time. Personally, I’d like to see him do well just 'cause he comes across as a humble, hard working kid who didn’t let his meteoric rise to fame get to his head. The way he carried himself through all of that shit was more impressive [to me] than anything he did on the court.[/quote]
Agreed, I feel it will be somewhere in the middle as well, and even though not on the knicks will still be pulling for him. The Rockets on paper look awful however, with that being said I think he will be putting up good - very good numbers once again albeit on a sub 500 team so it will still be very hard to gague his true talen level in what looks like a rebuilding type era for the Rockets.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So is anyone going to give a fuck about Lin now that he’s in Houston?
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Wrong question raj. Of course people are going to be paying attention to Lin. The better question is anyone going to give a fuck about the Knicks now that Lin is gone. Jeremy Lin was the only reason the Knicks were relevant last season, sans Lin and with Brooklyn in the spotlight they likely won’t be grabbing headlines anymore (maybe if J. Kidd turns up to a game tipsy or wasted). [/quote]
Disagree you dont have to look to far back to when you could put Knicks and irreleavant in the same sentence. But would have to look farther back than right before linsanity. The Knicks were relevant with Amare, Gallo and W Chandler trifecta. They will be still very relevant because they have enough talent to be anywhere from a 2-4 seed in the east, with Melo, Amare, Chandler, Kidd and Camby the usual knick haters will be looking to see them fall and vice versa.
Irrelevant Knicks were headed by Scott Layden and Lenny Wilkens and Don Channey…who had stars like Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, Othella Harrington, Michael Doleac and Willie Anderson out on the Court every night. now THATS irrelevant knicks. I was the only one watching catching a “chubby” when I though Starbury, Doleac and Van Horn were making it rain for a half year.
