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[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
The Minnesota Timberwolves COULD be the next 2005-2008 Phoenix Suns with Rubio and Love LOOSELY paralleling Nash and STAT, respectively. They need a little more confidence and just time to get the team gelling. Hopefully management will keep the roster largely as is so the team can form an ‘identity’ heading into next season. They probably won’t do much damage if they squeeze into the playoffs this year because they are still raw but the pieces are there, much like OKC. [/quote]

I don’t really get this. Love could not be more different from Amare as a PF. The fact that Rubio is a good passer does not mean Rubio/Love are like Nash/Amare in some way.[/quote]

This is retarded. Love is a good player getting great numbers on a bad team, and Rubio does nothing but pass the ball well, and his passing skills are pretty overrated honestly. Listening to people compare him to Jason Williams cracks me up.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
The Minnesota Timberwolves COULD be the next 2005-2008 Phoenix Suns with Rubio and Love LOOSELY paralleling Nash and STAT, respectively. They need a little more confidence and just time to get the team gelling. Hopefully management will keep the roster largely as is so the team can form an ‘identity’ heading into next season. They probably won’t do much damage if they squeeze into the playoffs this year because they are still raw but the pieces are there, much like OKC. [/quote]

I don’t really get this. Love could not be more different from Amare as a PF. The fact that Rubio is a good passer does not mean Rubio/Love are like Nash/Amare in some way.[/quote]

This is retarded. Love is a good player getting great numbers on a bad team, and Rubio does nothing but pass the ball well, and his passing skills are pretty overrated honestly. Listening to people compare him to Jason Williams cracks me up. [/quote]

I wouldn’t go that far. Love is an awesome player, I only said that because he’s the polar opposite to Stoudemire. Have you watched any Twolves games? I wouldn’t be shocked if they make the playoffs.

Rubio is a great passer, though he does need to improve he’s shooting. He’s leading the entire NBA in assists right now for crying out loud while passing to TIMBERWOLVES players.

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
The Minnesota Timberwolves COULD be the next 2005-2008 Phoenix Suns with Rubio and Love LOOSELY paralleling Nash and STAT, respectively. They need a little more confidence and just time to get the team gelling. Hopefully management will keep the roster largely as is so the team can form an ‘identity’ heading into next season. They probably won’t do much damage if they squeeze into the playoffs this year because they are still raw but the pieces are there, much like OKC. [/quote]

I don’t really get this. Love could not be more different from Amare as a PF. The fact that Rubio is a good passer does not mean Rubio/Love are like Nash/Amare in some way.[/quote]

This is retarded. Love is a good player getting great numbers on a bad team, and Rubio does nothing but pass the ball well, and his passing skills are pretty overrated honestly. Listening to people compare him to Jason Williams cracks me up. [/quote]

I wouldn’t go that far. Love is an awesome player, I only said that because he’s the polar opposite to Stoudemire. Have you watched any Twolves games? I wouldn’t be shocked if they make the playoffs.

Rubio is a great passer, though he does need to improve he’s shooting. He’s leading the entire NBA in assists right now for crying out loud while passing to TIMBERWOLVES players.[/quote]

First, where’d you get that Rubio is leading the L in assists? Nash is leading the league, Rubio’s 4th. Second, Love is putting up monster numbers but he gets less than 2 assists a game and shoots in the low 40’s. Dude can play, but let’s not act like he’s an all-leaguer. He’s at best the 2nd best player on a great squad. And as it stands, the Wolves are still under .500. And, I knew exactly what you meant when I quoted you, still had to address the ridiculousness that is Get’s opinions on basketball.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

First, where’d you get that Rubio is leading the L in assists? Nash is leading the league, Rubio’s 4th. Second, Love is putting up monster numbers but he gets less than 2 assists a game and shoots in the low 40’s. Dude can play, but let’s not act like he’s an all-leaguer. He’s at best the 2nd best player on a great squad. And as it stands, the Wolves are still under .500. And, I knew exactly what you meant when I quoted you, still had to address the ridiculousness that is Get’s opinions on basketball.[/quote]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012_leaders.html sorry I looked at total assists not assists per game, should have clarified.

Don’t think comparing Love FG% to other PFs is accurate because he takes more threes. About a quarter of his shots are threes (he’s making about 38% which is darn good) which is why is FG% is 45 instead of 50.

Also he’s lost a lot of weight and from what I’ve seen (only watched about 8 total twolves quarters) his defense has gone from “reprehensively bad” to “passable if you squint hard enough” which is a big improvement.

Trying this post a 3rd time.

Didn’t realize, but Love attempts 9 FTs/game and hits them at 82% which is awesome for a PF. Leads the NBA in Free Throws Made too.

The more I think about him, the more I like him. Underrated player for sure.

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

First, where’d you get that Rubio is leading the L in assists? Nash is leading the league, Rubio’s 4th. Second, Love is putting up monster numbers but he gets less than 2 assists a game and shoots in the low 40’s. Dude can play, but let’s not act like he’s an all-leaguer. He’s at best the 2nd best player on a great squad. And as it stands, the Wolves are still under .500. And, I knew exactly what you meant when I quoted you, still had to address the ridiculousness that is Get’s opinions on basketball.[/quote]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012_leaders.html sorry I looked at total assists not assists per game, should have clarified.

Don’t think comparing Love FG% to other PFs is accurate because he takes more threes. About a quarter of his shots are threes (he’s making about 38% which is darn good) which is why is FG% is 45 instead of 50.

Also he’s lost a lot of weight and from what I’ve seen (only watched about 8 total twolves quarters) his defense has gone from “reprehensively bad” to “passable if you squint hard enough” which is a big improvement. [/quote]

Of course comparing his fg% to other pf’s is fair, it’s not their fault he takes too many 3’s. Look, I like Love. I said the Lakers should’ve pulled the trigger on the him for Gasol deal last year, and gave him credit earlier in the thread. But, he’s a pf who can’t guard his own shadow, takes way too many jumpers (though he does hit at a good clip), doesn’t pass well and shines on a bad team. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves with what he is as a ball player.

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
The Minnesota Timberwolves COULD be the next 2005-2008 Phoenix Suns with Rubio and Love LOOSELY paralleling Nash and STAT, respectively. They need a little more confidence and just time to get the team gelling. Hopefully management will keep the roster largely as is so the team can form an ‘identity’ heading into next season. They probably won’t do much damage if they squeeze into the playoffs this year because they are still raw but the pieces are there, much like OKC. [/quote]

I don’t really get this. Love could not be more different from Amare as a PF. The fact that Rubio is a good passer does not mean Rubio/Love are like Nash/Amare in some way.[/quote]

This is retarded. Love is a good player getting great numbers on a bad team, and Rubio does nothing but pass the ball well, and his passing skills are pretty overrated honestly. Listening to people compare him to Jason Williams cracks me up. [/quote]

I wouldn’t go that far. Love is an awesome player, I only said that because he’s the polar opposite to Stoudemire. Have you watched any Twolves games? I wouldn’t be shocked if they make the playoffs.

Rubio is a great passer, though he does need to improve he’s shooting. He’s leading the entire NBA in assists right now for crying out loud while passing to TIMBERWOLVES players.[/quote]

Vintage WF…SMH. Good player getting great numbers on a bad team…where have I heard that before?

scj, you watching the Wiz-Raps?

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
He’s at best the 2nd best player on a great squad. [/quote]

not to be sneezed at in the NBA

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
He’s at best the 2nd best player on a great squad. [/quote]

not to be sneezed at in the NBA[/quote]

Didn’t mean it as an insult at all. Was just trying to illustrate a point. Honestly, that might even be generous. He’d probably be best served in a Chris Bosh type role, only a much better rebounder.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

First, where’d you get that Rubio is leading the L in assists? Nash is leading the league, Rubio’s 4th. Second, Love is putting up monster numbers but he gets less than 2 assists a game and shoots in the low 40’s. Dude can play, but let’s not act like he’s an all-leaguer. He’s at best the 2nd best player on a great squad. And as it stands, the Wolves are still under .500. And, I knew exactly what you meant when I quoted you, still had to address the ridiculousness that is Get’s opinions on basketball.[/quote]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012_leaders.html sorry I looked at total assists not assists per game, should have clarified.

Don’t think comparing Love FG% to other PFs is accurate because he takes more threes. About a quarter of his shots are threes (he’s making about 38% which is darn good) which is why is FG% is 45 instead of 50.

Also he’s lost a lot of weight and from what I’ve seen (only watched about 8 total twolves quarters) his defense has gone from “reprehensively bad” to “passable if you squint hard enough” which is a big improvement. [/quote]

Of course comparing his fg% to other pf’s is fair, it’s not their fault he takes too many 3’s. Look, I like Love. I said the Lakers should’ve pulled the trigger on the him for Gasol deal last year, and gave him credit earlier in the thread. But, he’s a pf who can’t guard his own shadow, takes way too many jumpers (though he does hit at a good clip), doesn’t pass well and shines on a bad team. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves with what he is as a ball player.[/quote]

FG% is not the right stat. Would you rather have a guy hitting 40% on threes or 45% on twos? The first guy is giving you way more points per shot. Love is averaging 25pts on 18 shots and that is elite production no matter how you want to slice it.

Also, he is one of the best 3 rebounders in the league. It’s one thing to put up that kind of effort on every missed shot if that’s all you do (cough Reggie Evans) - but to be a key offensive piece on your team and lead the league in offensive rebounds (as he did last year and is 4th this year) is fucking unreal. High-effort rebounding like Love’s is exhausting to do every single play, most guys who rebound like that need to take some plays off and he never does.

The fact is he is a very good offensive player and one of the top 3 (arguably #1) rebounders in the league right now, and you are dismissing him because he plays for the Timberwolves. He’s better on D than he used to be (I’d say he’s almost average now, based on what I’ve seen this year since he lost all that weight).

[quote]therajraj wrote:
scj, you watching the Wiz-Raps?[/quote]

No but I saw that McGee play. He actually tries hard but good lord he is dumb as a file cabinet.

I don’t think we are all that far off in our opinion of Love, at least not as far as you’d think based on our arguing. One thing going against him though is how many great PFs there are in the West right now. As much as I’m slobbing his knob, there are 5-8 other PFs in the West alone that are around his level or slightly better (Nowitzki, Aldridge, Griffin, Gasol, healthy Zach Randolph off the top of my head)

Matty has to be psyched about Jeremy Lin. Only 2 games, but he looks legit so far. NYK may have found their PG.

Where are all the Knicks fans saying Jeremy Lin is going to lead them to the promised land?

I mean if they said that about Mozgov, Landry Fields, and Iman Shumpert, surely Lin can get the next “Guy Who Ends Our Problems” label.

edit: I swear to God I did not see that post above me when I wrote this. Impeccable timing is impeccable.

[quote]overstand wrote:
Matty has to be psyched about Jeremy Lin. Only 2 games, but he looks legit so far. NYK may have found their PG.[/quote]

Once teams realize they can go under every screen and he’ll never make a shot over the top, he’ll stop producing. There’s a reason no one wanted him.

^^

I wouldn’t expect him to put up 25/8/8, all they need is a point guard who can run the PNR with Amare.

Watch this vid, he has a decent jumper.

[quote]overstand wrote:
^^

I wouldn’t expect him to put up 25/8/8, all they need is a point guard who can run the PNR with Amare.

Watch this vid, he has a decent jumper.
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He’s had good brief stints before. Bottom line is he’s played 419 total minutes and only attempted 13 threes because he knows it’s not his shot. Also he is basically Yi Jinlain’s chair on D, not that D’Antoni typically cares about that.


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^^ McGee moment!

Sorry to inundate this page, but while it’s on my mind, this is fast becoming my favorite website:

http://didthewizardswinlastnight.com/