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[quote]randman wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Uh huh I’m the sensitive one, you best check yoself befor you reck yoself son.[/quote]

Come on you little bitch. When are you going to admit your Drewh? You think trying to post some ridiculous stuff is going to get the focus off this troll like move? You have absolutely no credibility. Come on bitch, admit it. You’re hiding behind “sardines”. Come on, be a man…if you’re capable of such acts.[/quote]
I lost a bet you twat of course it’s a different name.

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So uh, is this your only troll spot, or do you have other similar gigs across the internets?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^^ What are you talking about man? Shaq, T-Mac, Allen Iverson AKA the 90’s All Star team are still Free Agents!!![/quote]

On which teams might they make a real difference?

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NEW: Sources report the Pistons may relocate to Las Vegas. Nothing serious as of yet but apparently talks are underway.

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[quote]lavi wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^^ What are you talking about man? Shaq, T-Mac, Allen Iverson AKA the 90’s All Star team are still Free Agents!!![/quote]

On which teams might they make a real difference?[/quote]

Was being sarcastic

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I was right on! Heat signed Mike Miller, this team is gonna be somethin’ else! Now they need a seasoned PG ahead of Chalmers. 1 hr. from the Miami, Heat games here I come, baby!

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[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
NEW: Sources report the Pistons may relocate to Las Vegas. Nothing serious as of yet but apparently talks are underway.[/quote]

Really? The Pistons don’t seem to be having money problems to my knowledge. They run a tight ship, no overspending, and they’re in a huge market in Detroit. Maybe there’s something I don’t know. I don’t like the Pistons but I’d like them to stay where they are. They don’t seem like a good fit for Las Vegas anyway.

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[quote]randman wrote:

One of my first ESPN.com columns was titled, “Is Clemens the Antichrist?” It covered how my relationship changed with Roger Clemens as a Red Sox fan – in five years, he went from my favorite baseball player to my least favorite athlete in any sport – and how the turning point happened in 1996, when Clemens signed with Toronto and showed no remorse at the ensuing news conference.

And you know what? What LeBron did to Cleveland last night was worse. Much worse.

It’s one thing to leave. I get it. You’re 25. You don’t know any better. You’re tired of carrying mediocre teams. You want help. You want the luxury of not having to play a remarkable game every single night for eight straight months. You want to live in South Beach. You want to play with your buddies. I get it. I get it. But turning that decision into a one-hour special, pretending that it hadn’t been decided weeks ago, using a charity as your cover-up and ramming a pitchfork in Cleveland’s back like you were at the end of a Friday the 13th movie and Cleveland was Jason … there just had to be a better way.

Never in my life can I remember someone swinging from likable to unlikable that quickly.

Michael Jordan would have wanted to kick Dwyane Wade’s butt every spring, not play with him. This should be mentioned every day for the rest of LeBron’s career. It’s also the kryptonite for any “Some day we’ll remember LeBron James as the best basketball player ever” argument. We will not. Jordan and Russell were the greatest players of all time. Neither of them would have made the choice that LeBron did. That should tell you something.[/quote]

Dan Duquette treated him like shit, he leaves…good move. I remember the first time he played against them, kick their fucking asses, as he was walking off the field he glared up at that ass hole…take that he was saying to himself. Roger Clemens…best pitcher ever behind
Bob Gibson…and maybe a tie.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
And if anybody has a good idea of Hakim Warrick’s abilities and weaknesses, I’d love an opinion on whther he’d be better for Phoenix. Because if so the Suns saved a shitload of money.[/quote]

Def improved his game since his rookie year. Has become a better shooter and ball handler. And he can jump out of the gym.

However, he doesn’t live up to his potential, and can be a lot better than he is, especially defensively. You would expect someone of his athleticism to be a better rebounder and shot blocker, but he isn’t.

At 6’9" he’s a tweener forward and not a true center. He won’t be the guy to take over late in a game, but can flourish if he has good help around him.

Summary: good pickup for PHX, but definitely not a replacement for Amar’e.[/quote]

I can kind of see him being a homeless man’s Shawn Marion in Phoenix’s system, minus the 3’s. [/quote]

Thanks for the heads up tmoney1 and Flash. Not what I wanted to hear though, lol.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
NEW: Sources report the Pistons may relocate to Las Vegas. Nothing serious as of yet but apparently talks are underway.[/quote]

Really? The Pistons don’t seem to be having money problems to my knowledge. They run a tight ship, no overspending, and they’re in a huge market in Detroit. Maybe there’s something I don’t know. I don’t like the Pistons but I’d like them to stay where they are. They don’t seem like a good fit for Las Vegas anyway.
[/quote]

Yeah I was surprised to hear this as well. Again, just rumors though. They are definitely one of the more stable franchises in the L.

Vegas isn’t a good fit for any team. Too much going on, especially since quite a few players in the NBA are under 21, it’s just asking for trouble.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
And if anybody has a good idea of Hakim Warrick’s abilities and weaknesses, I’d love an opinion on whther he’d be better for Phoenix. Because if so the Suns saved a shitload of money.[/quote]

Def improved his game since his rookie year. Has become a better shooter and ball handler. And he can jump out of the gym.

However, he doesn’t live up to his potential, and can be a lot better than he is, especially defensively. You would expect someone of his athleticism to be a better rebounder and shot blocker, but he isn’t.

At 6’9" he’s a tweener forward and not a true center. He won’t be the guy to take over late in a game, but can flourish if he has good help around him.

Summary: good pickup for PHX, but definitely not a replacement for Amar’e.[/quote]

I can kind of see him being a homeless man’s Shawn Marion in Phoenix’s system, minus the 3’s. [/quote]

Thanks for the heads up tmoney1 and Flash. Not what I wanted to hear though, lol.[/quote]

HAHA sorry LD, gotta give it to you straight. Although, of course, we could be wrong and he could turn into an All-Star.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Rondo’s effectiveness will be hampered a bit due to the aging of the big 3. [/quote]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Rondo has a broke J, especially for a PG?
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It’s not really broken if he never had it to begin with.

In that respect, Rondo’s awfully similar to Ason Kidd - there’s never been a “j” there either[/quote]

Read an interview with Rondo in SLAM, and Jesus he’s cocky. He said he’s the best pg in the league amongst a shit ton of other nonsense. The thing is, a lot of his buckets and rebounds are a result of him “sneaking in” due to teams concentrating on other players. Once those guys [ Allen on the wing, Pierce at the top of the key extended, Garnett 17’ and in] aren’t around, all of those easy lay-ups and uncontested rebounds disappear. He’ll have to work a lot harder to get what he’s been getting, and with his J being such a liability teams will pretty much be able to keep him contained.[/quote]

I think you’re dead wrong about this. He IS one of the best PGs in the league and his J has gotten better each year. There is nothing magical about shooting. Just repetition, practice and tweaking form. If he puts in the time, it will continue to improve. If you’re taking exception to his declaring he is THE best pg in the league, well, they all have egos. And contrary to what you believe, I think he could and would do much more without the supporting cast in Boston. In fact, he’d run fucking wild b/c no one can keep him in front of them. And once he does actually have a reliable J, he is unstoppable. Now, unless he’s a fool, he knows this, the coaches have told him this, and as we “speak”, he is locked in a gym somewhere, shooting.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Rondo’s effectiveness will be hampered a bit due to the aging of the big 3. [/quote]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Rondo has a broke J, especially for a PG?
[/quote]

It’s not really broken if he never had it to begin with.

In that respect, Rondo’s awfully similar to Ason Kidd - there’s never been a “j” there either[/quote]

Read an interview with Rondo in SLAM, and Jesus he’s cocky. He said he’s the best pg in the league amongst a shit ton of other nonsense. The thing is, a lot of his buckets and rebounds are a result of him “sneaking in” due to teams concentrating on other players. Once those guys [ Allen on the wing, Pierce at the top of the key extended, Garnett 17’ and in] aren’t around, all of those easy lay-ups and uncontested rebounds disappear. He’ll have to work a lot harder to get what he’s been getting, and with his J being such a liability teams will pretty much be able to keep him contained.[/quote]

I think you’re dead wrong about this. He IS one of the best PGs in the league and his J has gotten better each year. There is nothing magical about shooting. Just repetition, practice and tweaking form. If he puts in the time, it will continue to improve. If you’re taking exception to his declaring he is THE best pg in the league, well, they all have egos. And contrary to what you believe, I think he could and would do much more without the supporting cast in Boston. In fact, he’d run fucking wild b/c no one can keep him in front of them. And once he does actually have a reliable J, he is unstoppable. Now, unless he’s a fool, he knows this, the coaches have told him this, and as we “speak”, he is locked in a gym somewhere, shooting.[/quote]

Oh, I easily could be completely off about this. But, I see him as a “garbage man”, which is pretty unusual for a pg. He gets quite a bit of his buckets [and boards, and assists] off of broken plays with everything kind of breaking down. That’s a helluva an asset for a team to have, but when there are less people to key on, there will be less oppertunities for him. Then again, once again I could be completely wrong and he could go apeshit when he’s got free reign. Also wanted to add that I saw him against Durant in the HORSE contest at All-Star weekend and he was drilling jumpers left and right. At one point he and Durant were going back and forth for like 9 or 10 3’s in a row apiece. That shows me that he has the ability, he just loses confidence once “the lights come on”. And yes, shooting in an empty gym with no one guarding you is completely different than trying to stick j’s in an NBA game, I’m just saying he’s got the ability. He just doesn’t have enough confidence in it yet, and when teams literally play 10’ off of him daring him to shoot, his confidence gets even lower. I do think he’s probably top 5 pg right now, but he’s not better than Paul or Williams by any stretch, and I don’t know if I’d put him ahead of Nash, Rose or a healthy Parker either. With a consistent J though he’s probably top 3.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Oh, I easily could be completely off about this. But, I see him as a “garbage man”, which is pretty unusual for a pg. He gets quite a bit of his buckets [and boards, and assists] off of broken plays with everything kind of breaking down. That’s a helluva an asset for a team to have, but when there are less people to key on, there will be less oppertunities for him. Then again, once again I could be completely wrong and he could go apeshit when he’s got free reign. Also wanted to add that I saw him against Durant in the HORSE contest at All-Star weekend and he was drilling jumpers left and right. At one point he and Durant were going back and forth for like 9 or 10 3’s in a row apiece. That shows me that he has the ability, he just loses confidence once “the lights come on”. And yes, shooting in an empty gym with no one guarding you is completely different than trying to stick j’s in an NBA game, I’m just saying he’s got the ability. He just doesn’t have enough confidence in it yet, and when teams literally play 10’ off of him daring him to shoot, his confidence gets even lower. I do think he’s probably top 5 pg right now, but he’s not better than Paul or Williams by any stretch, and I don’t know if I’d put him ahead of Nash, Rose or a healthy Parker either. With a consistent J though he’s probably top 3.[/quote]

Well, we’ll see if he develops. I know he has the ability. There is nothing terribly wrong with his form and shooting is just reps. And with reps, the confidence will come. That said, there is just no way to keep this guy in front of you - he’s one of those players. The ONLY way you can guard him is to take several steps off him…and once he conquers that suspect J, watch out. I think he defers a ton to the supporting cast there and I think he has a ton of pressure on him to play within that personality that the team has developed with the addition of the big 3. Stop for a moment and ponder those PGs you rate higher than him but then put it in context of the freedom and players those other PGs play with. I’d wager they have quite a bit more freedom. Rondo does not have that freedom. The J is a serious liability for him, only because its so fucking obvious no one can keep him in front. But really, as you pointed out, his J isn’t THAT bad. And it his shooting has improved. I see him on the rise, and based on the relative improvement we’ve seen, there is no reason to believe this still young PG won’t continue to hone his jumper. I think your rating given his current shot is fair though. However, I would vehemently disagree with any comparisons to J. Kidd. Kidd had NO shot. Rondo does have a shot.

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Brad Miller signs with the Rockets. 3 years $15 million.

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[quote]tmoney1 wrote:

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
NEW: Sources report the Pistons may relocate to Las Vegas. Nothing serious as of yet but apparently talks are underway.[/quote]

Really? The Pistons don’t seem to be having money problems to my knowledge. They run a tight ship, no overspending, and they’re in a huge market in Detroit. Maybe there’s something I don’t know. I don’t like the Pistons but I’d like them to stay where they are. They don’t seem like a good fit for Las Vegas anyway.
[/quote]

Yeah I was surprised to hear this as well. Again, just rumors though. They are definitely one of the more stable franchises in the L.

Vegas isn’t a good fit for any team. Too much going on, especially since quite a few players in the NBA are under 21, it’s just asking for trouble.[/quote]
but the entertainment

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Oh, I easily could be completely off about this. But, I see him as a “garbage man”, which is pretty unusual for a pg. He gets quite a bit of his buckets [and boards, and assists] off of broken plays with everything kind of breaking down. That’s a helluva an asset for a team to have, but when there are less people to key on, there will be less oppertunities for him. Then again, once again I could be completely wrong and he could go apeshit when he’s got free reign. Also wanted to add that I saw him against Durant in the HORSE contest at All-Star weekend and he was drilling jumpers left and right. At one point he and Durant were going back and forth for like 9 or 10 3’s in a row apiece. That shows me that he has the ability, he just loses confidence once “the lights come on”. And yes, shooting in an empty gym with no one guarding you is completely different than trying to stick j’s in an NBA game, I’m just saying he’s got the ability. He just doesn’t have enough confidence in it yet, and when teams literally play 10’ off of him daring him to shoot, his confidence gets even lower. I do think he’s probably top 5 pg right now, but he’s not better than Paul or Williams by any stretch, and I don’t know if I’d put him ahead of Nash, Rose or a healthy Parker either. With a consistent J though he’s probably top 3.[/quote]

Well, we’ll see if he develops. I know he has the ability. There is nothing terribly wrong with his form and shooting is just reps. And with reps, the confidence will come. That said, there is just no way to keep this guy in front of you - he’s one of those players. The ONLY way you can guard him is to take several steps off him…and once he conquers that suspect J, watch out. I think he defers a ton to the supporting cast there and I think he has a ton of pressure on him to play within that personality that the team has developed with the addition of the big 3. Stop for a moment and ponder those PGs you rate higher than him but then put it in context of the freedom and players those other PGs play with. I’d wager they have quite a bit more freedom. Rondo does not have that freedom. The J is a serious liability for him, only because its so fucking obvious no one can keep him in front. But really, as you pointed out, his J isn’t THAT bad. And it his shooting has improved. I see him on the rise, and based on the relative improvement we’ve seen, there is no reason to believe this still young PG won’t continue to hone his jumper. I think your rating given his current shot is fair though. However, I would vehemently disagree with any comparisons to J. Kidd. Kidd had NO shot. Rondo does have a shot. [/quote]

Man, I might catch shit for this but I always thought Kidd was a little overrated. Yeah, he took 2 Nets teams to the finals. Yeah, he’s a multi-time All-Star. Yeah, he’s an Olympian. But, he was/is such a liability on offense that he couldn’t be counted on the way the truly greats are. Was watching a shootaround a few years ago and Kidd bricked 9 or 10 shots in a row. In an empty gym. With a designated feeder. I just don’t understand how someone who’s around the game that much couldn’t develop at least a decent jumper. He didn’t have to be Dell Curry, but if you’re a 10 year vet people shouldn’t be able to just leave you alone on the perimeter.

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Of course you would say the king of triple doubles is overrated. When a team needs a three Kidd delivers almost always. Wow Jason Kidd overrated just no.

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