Navalny is a hero

Use your imagination. You know, the same mindset as when you elevate Navalny to the status of Hero.

I can see you are quite good at hallucinating, but it’s not a practice I intend to adopt.

You mean when they designated him a ā€œprisoner of conscienceā€, or when they stripped him of it as referenced, or when they (as implied) re-designated him?

I see you like to shoot the messenger, but I find that sort of behavior off-putting.

It’s on his, Navalny’s, YouTube channel and he hasn’t denied it. It’s from 2007.

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Messenger is a bit of a stretch.

Apt usage when conversing about a hero.

Do you have a link? Navalny’s channel doesn’t have any videos posted in 2007.

Just Google Navalny cockroaches.

Lies:

I’ve done that. I watched the video. That is the footage that Greenwald uses. I specifically asked if there was other footage that Greenwald didn’t include since the footage does not rise to that level in my opinion.

The video makes no specific reference to any racial group and even if you intuit that cockroaches is a stand in for some specific group, it’s still referring to home defense. Navalny has spoken against illegal immigration and in support of deporting illegal immigrants. But that’s hardly a call to extermination. Moreover, it’s clearly about a focus on securing the Russian border rather than a racial distinction.

Both, I suppose. ā€œPrisoner of conscienceā€ is an arbitrary and meaningless distinction. The cockroaches bit is wildly misinterpreted and doesn’t really mean anything anyways.

If one gangster kills another wannabe gangster, does that make the wannabe gangster a hero? Your hero worship is mis-placed. Clearly. It’s ok to be wrong; it doesn’t make you a bad person.

You are quoting the World Socialist Web Site?

The difference between your assessment and mine is that you are willing to get bogged down in the shades of gray to avoid having to make a moral distinction. By no means was Navalny a perfect or spotless man. But he did commit to a tireless, dangerous, and ultimately fatal fight against a greater evil.

Evil men want the world to be gray so everything is evil and then nothing is. But the shades matter.

No opinions, just the fact that was cited. Same as the video from Reuters.

Embrace and enjoy your delusions buddy.

Unlike you, I’m too simple, and not intelligent enough, to stray from the gray of a merriam webster definition.

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a

: a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability

b

: an illustrious warrior

c

: a person admired for achievements and noble qualities

d

: one who shows great courage

I’d argue for c, but d is a slam dunk. He came back to Russia to fight for his country, knowing for sure that Putin was trying to kill him. If nothing else, that takes some brass ones.

In my assessment of him, based on the limited information I have, he was a Russian nationalist who wanted to put Russians in Russia first unlike Putin who puts his own self interests first. Drain the swamp, if you will. Navalny’s rhetoric was at times xenophobic and could be interpreted by some as racist, but Russians have a different view on being PC than Americans. Most of his rhetoric was anti-Islamic and he said the quiet part out loud. I don’t think he was any more right wing than an American today criticizing our current border policies.

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This can’t bea real conversation, you must be messing with me!

This info is from the wikipedia page that you quoted above!

He worked pro bono much of the time, and his cases included representing white supremacist Matthew Hale in Illinois, who, Greenwald believed, was wrongly imprisoned,[21] and the neo-nazi National Alliance.[22]

Greenwald described U.S. Army Private Chelsea Manning as ā€œa whistle-blower acting with the noblest of motivesā€ and "a national hero