Overhead pressing still works their chest.
That’s two pretty different situations. A competitive lifter specifically choosing assistance work for better sports performance isn’t quite the same as Joe Normal being perfectly happy doing push-ups and concentration curls three days a week.
I’m also pretty sure the “O-lifters don’t bench” train of thought is more old school, borderline outdated, and not really as widespread nowadays. (To be fair, I could definitely be wrong on that. It’s not really my wheelhouse).
Similar to how powerlifters benefit from overhead pressing, there’s often going to be carryover from benching/bench variations to overhead strength. Incline benching, for example, has been a staple of many overhead throwing athletes. That’s “a chest exercise”, even if they don’t use that terminology. Also, do O-lifters do dips? That’s another “chest exercise” whether or not they want to call it one.
But for the average person, the idea of training needs vs wants is a big can o’ worms that’s been the subject of a bunch of threads over the years, usually along the lines of “Does everyone need to do the Big 3”?
Long story short (too late): No, technically people don’t “need” to train legs if they don’t want to, but it’s dumb not to because it’s increasing the risk of hip, knee, and ankle injuries by leaving those parts weak/immobile and it’s decreasing total body muscle and strength by leaving a large number of muscles untrained.
I think like most everyone else said this is bad advice and a bad program. If you want to prioritize certain muscle groups that’s fine, however you don’t ever see good coaches remove anything completely. Reduce leg work to focus on upper body? Yes. Or vise versa but I’ve never seen it be completely removed.
And if a lifter is new then this as a general strength program is garbage imo.
But on the real I was really into his content a few years back. Him and Phillip Gervais. I think some of their content is good, but I think it tried too hard to be out of the box. I don’t think this program is really a good idea, and even though I watched them, I was doing the trash KIZEN Off Season program (which made more sense than this one).
I recommend doing the 5/3/1 BBB Challenge twice (6 months total) for what you’re looking for.
I think I know who people are talking about but then I question myself.
Thanks guys, I may still to the basics 
It’s alright. I took down my post. I logged on while in a down mood.
It’s cool. If it’s who I’m thinking of, I just had a very bad interaction with them.
He’s an Internet tough guy who seems to be getting worse. He said those who have cancelled unnecessary luxury subscriptions during this crisis should go f— themselves and that those who spread misinformation about C-19 (perhaps unknowingly but in likely panic or ignorance) should jump off a f— cliff!
Nice guy!
If/when you have a moment, check out the 2nd latest post on my log - Rewind to 10th Grade - #157 by jshaving
I read it. That’s highly disturbing. It makes one think what drives someone to repeatedly behave in such a manner. I have my suspicion.
Sounds like the guy is having some real and serious problems.
I’ve told Brad many times that I don’t think most people doing the “online coaching” thing have the mentality of even demeanor for it.
How many of these dudes trying to build their names as coaches are just aging gym rats, wanna be famous, folks always trying to make themselves sound better or more impressive/accomplished than they really are?
That’s not who you’d ideally choose to have an understanding, compassionate relationship with a client who isn’t a hard core meathead, maybe has very limited abilities, or even real medical concerns (emotional/psychological even)… I liken having a good rapport with clients to being a teacher; you’ve got to be able to help the bottom performing students just as well as the top performing ones and they all have to think that you believe in them To the same Degree and that deep down, they’re each your favorite.
As to the various rants and online daily affirmations referenced above, I’ve said plenty of times when friends point them out that it’s just building a brand, a public persona. Finding out the real story behind such faces typically reveals what you’d expect it to if you’re not blindly following along, and that’s always the sad truth.
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I think that there can have a lot of cary over into other things.
I actually really like people, but don’t function well in a people/helping role due to a few things like ego, unrealistic expectations, impatience.
I’ve noticed that the people who are good in those roles are good at taking themselves out of it and making it about the student, client, patient, sponsoree, etc., which can be very difficult and is a real talent/gift.
“Taking yourself out of it” is tough. As a teacher, when I receive praise for my students work, I always respond with “Thank you THEY worked very hard on this project.” It’s not about me. The same thing with coaching. Yes, I can rattle off names of many past clients who won their pro cards, placed better than ever before at a Nationals show, dropped weight classes and set PR’s in powerlifting meets or any such impressive feats, and yes, I was the guy making the calls, BUT, they are the ones who suffered, and in my opinion (and I KNOW most guys trying to make their names are very different than I am) it’s kind of a dick-move to try and take credit when someone else just achieved something, even with an invaluable amount of your help.
If you can’t be satisfied with the gratitude, and hopefully kudos and testimonials you should receive from your clients (something that not all clients will do! cough cough, JG “lead from the front -lol”), then you probably don’t have a healthy understanding of your own accomplishments.
It’s funny, but when my son was born, my wife relegated all my trophies to the basement with a “it’s not about you anymore” joke -lol
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You know what’s funny? I’m not a pro and I’ve never competed in anything gym related, but I’m pretty darn successful when it comes to overall health and fitness. People around me know that I know what to do to lose weight, get stronger, etc, but they still don’t use me as a resource. I’ve offered to help people for free and received very little response.
But I’ll see or hear the same people who ignore me jump on the latest fad diet or hire someone who has “competed”.
The sensation of internet super trainers is its own beast. I guess it could be considered the Apple product while I’m over here offering Nokias. People go for the flash.
My ill informed opinion is that it might be exactly the reverse. I see many people who are at a low level, health and fitness wise, who assume that they need something totally different from the advanced trainee. Like they believe that they’re almost a different species and that the same rules don’t apply.
I used to advertise “DM me for free booty workouts” on my Instagram. Girls always hit me up on some creep shit, even though I had a spreadsheet for them THAT THEY NEVER USED
Man this really echoes laud. I’ve always thought this listening to different coaches of top athletes to the bottom levels. You can pick up on their true character from how many “me” “I” they use opposed to “we”. If an athlete trusts you with their training it’s a team effort. You can’t claim their success if they’re successful and if they aren’t successful say the failure was all on them. Good post man.
Honest to God some of that puzzles me to no end.
Dude with a mullet wearing spandex probably made 50 million dollars through through the '90’s selling fitness gazelles to housewives.
I don’t know how that works, but it happened! 