im thinking e-bay.com
Great post Varqiner, that should be stickied lol.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Varqanir, that was the loveliest post ever. I was moved!
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Thanks, Emily. 
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Did you really just say that a supplement website is of comparable importance to the memory of a dead parent?
Nike could represent a lifestyle too. If I went and got Nike’s logo tattooed all over my body, Im fairly certain that most would consider that a fucking stupid tattoo. The North Face represents a lifestyle. How about I get their logo tattooed on my chest so its like Im always wearing one of those trendy fleeces?
Catch my drift?[/quote]
Unlike the T Symbol, Nike in no way represents a lifestyle, but if nike means that much too you then sure go get it.
Just read Varqiners post, I’m sure it will answer all of your questions.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Did you really just say that a supplement website is of comparable importance to the memory of a dead parent?
Nike could represent a lifestyle too. If I went and got Nike’s logo tattooed all over my body, Im fairly certain that most would consider that a fucking stupid tattoo. The North Face represents a lifestyle. How about I get their logo tattooed on my chest so its like Im always wearing one of those trendy fleeces?
Catch my drift?
Unlike the T Symbol, Nike in no way represents a lifestyle, but if nike means that much too you then sure go get it.
Just read Varqiners post, I’m sure it will answer all of your questions.[/quote]
The OP has been reading this site since before there was even an option to post.
He barely looks like he lifts.
I think he is missing out on a fairly large part of this “lifestyle” you people are talking about. I would even go so far as to say he got it simply because he thinks it looks cool, not because he fancies himself a part of this “nation” ya’ll are so proud to be a part of.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Did you really just say that a supplement website is of comparable importance to the memory of a dead parent?
Nike could represent a lifestyle too. If I went and got Nike’s logo tattooed all over my body, Im fairly certain that most would consider that a fucking stupid tattoo. The North Face represents a lifestyle. How about I get their logo tattooed on my chest so its like Im always wearing one of those trendy fleeces?
Catch my drift?
Unlike the T Symbol, Nike in no way represents a lifestyle, but if nike means that much too you then sure go get it.
Just read Varqiners post, I’m sure it will answer all of your questions.[/quote]
Neither does T-Nation. T-Nation represents a forum set up by a supplement company.
If you honestly buy into all of this T-man bullshit, then you are too stupid to realize that all you’re doing is swallowing the kool-aid the marketing experts at Biotest are slipping you.
it takes 30 seconds to join…
The same could be said of patriotism in any nation. And don’t think for a minute that America isn’t also a brand, represented by the most widely recognized brand symbol (the stars and stripes) in the world, and marketed by the slickest purveyors of bullshit (politicians) that ever walked the earth.
If the only reason you love your nation is because you believe the hype and the bullshit, then yeah, you’re a dupe and an idiot. A patriot is someone who ignores the hype, and loves his nation for what it is, not for what he’s told that it is.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
The same could be said of patriotism in any nation. And don’t think for a minute that America isn’t also a brand, represented by the most widely recognized brand symbol (the stars and stripes) in the world, and marketed by the slickest purveyors of bullshit (politicians) that ever walked the earth.
If the only reason you love your nation is because you believe the hype and the bullshit, then yeah, you’re a dupe and an idiot. A patriot is someone who ignores the hype, and loves his nation for what it is, not for what he’s told that it is.[/quote]
It could be said and it might even be true, but it doesn’t change the fact that having a corporate logo tattooed on your body is a bit much.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
If you honestly buy into all of this T-man bullshit, then you are too stupid to realize that all you’re doing is swallowing the kool-aid the marketing experts at Biotest are slipping you.
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Kool-Aid is everywhere. Jingoism is a way of life. We each get to decide what pieces of it we buy into, or choose none at all. Everything is absurd to the determined cynic. You value your family and consider it special? Laughable, given its ridiculous insufficiencies. Your country, your favorite music, your schools…all of your affiliations are mock-worthy to someone bent on finding them so.
I also think Biotest is a small enough company that the “marketing experts” are fairly small potatoes in the big scheme of things. I would guess that T-Nation is run by people who believe very much in its philosophy.
I paid for my education and I pay my credentialing board, but I still find the tenets of my profession noble. Not enough to tattoo them on my arm, but I’m conservative that way.
Don’t hate.
If you can’t associate with the “T-man bullshit” maybe lifting isn’t for you. Why don’t you go post on Nike’s website instead of posting on here, what’s keeping you here?
lol douche , when you get older n have kids n they have kids n sit on your lap asking the question , grandpa what does that mean on your wrinkly old arm?
What the fuck are you gonna say?
oh it was a web site i used to visit when i was big( if you ever get there)
Your kids will roll their eyes and youll look at your small flabby arm and say…fuck im a douche brah!
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
If you can’t associate with the “T-man bullshit” maybe lifting isn’t for you. Why don’t you go post on Nike’s website instead of posting on here, what’s keeping you here?[/quote]
Ok guy.
Just because I don’t mindlessly embrace an advertising campaign I shouldn’t be lifting weights.
That’s some bulletproof logic.
[quote]Travacolypse wrote:
Ok guy.
Just because I don’t mindlessly embrace an advertising campaign I shouldn’t be lifting weights.
That’s some bulletproof logic.[/quote]
Maybe you should. Then you could use yourself as an avatar instead of some Calvin and Hobbes comic, wise ass
Personally I woulda just got the actual word “Testosterone” tattooed on my back or ribs or something in the yellow rough fashion as the T-shirt is. Also lostinthought whats your arm shot constitute that you rip on that dudes liking to the T-Nation tat?
You seemed to congratulate RJ on his tat. Is he some weird fantasy living D-bag cause of it? And to everyone on here saying “Oh what happens when he gets older with kids blah blah blah,” well why dont you get on the steroids forum and start flaming those guys too? Different strokes for different folks.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
Ok guy.
Just because I don’t mindlessly embrace an advertising campaign I shouldn’t be lifting weights.
That’s some bulletproof logic.
Maybe you should. Then you could use yourself as an avatar instead of some Calvin and Hobbes comic, wise ass[/quote]
I’m keeping my opinions about the tattoo but myself, but don’t bring Calvin and Hobbes into the debate!
You guys know that you cant buy “T-Nation” supplements right? Biotest is the supplement company with a totally different logo, and T-Nation is the website they are primarily sold on. To some people its more than a website though, its the principles and the people that populate the website.
The philosophy of the website goes along with the logo: Honor, respect, integrity, strength, power, courage. Thats what it means to some of us, and apparently not others. Just like America has ideals it (supposedly) holds, like Freedom, Equality and Justice.
I imagine that when these people are asked about the tattoo they dont say “Its a supplement company” or “Its a website I visit.” They speak of the virtues the symbol represents.
I worked at a restaurant for 5 years, but I wont be getting their logo on my arm. I dont value Hot Food Hot and Cold Food Cold in my every day life.
For those that get it, no explanation is necessary. For those that dont, no explanation will suffice.
Let’s face it: it doesn’t matter what your opinions of the OP’s tattoo are, there are far, far worse things to put on your body than the T-Nation logo.
Personally, I don’t buy into the idea that T-Nation is a symbol of commercialism. Nobody is charged to join, nobody is forced to buy supplements from the store, but everybody has access to countless articles from world class trainers, and allowed to ask advice from some very experienced members from around the world.
Now if the OP had ‘Biotest’ on his arm, it would be a different story, but the people that claim T-Nation is a cynical marketing ploy need to stop and think about where they would be if it didn’t exist.
I’m not just talking about training info, this extends to friendships, life lessons, and plenty of other things that can’t be learned from a book. I don’t care if this comes across as overly sentimental - you can’t put a price on these things, and as such, I wouldn’t regard them as commodities.
This site offers an opportunity to interact with people that you would otherwise never have met, or benefit from their experiences. Don’t take it for granted.
I want a Fight Club tat!!!
[quote]roybot wrote:
Let’s face it: it doesn’t matter what your opinions of the OP’s tattoo are, there are far, far worse things to put on your body than the T-Nation logo.
Personally, I don’t buy into the idea that T-Nation is a symbol of commercialism. Nobody is charged to join, nobody is forced to buy supplements from the store, but everybody has access to countless articles from world class trainers, and allowed to ask advice from some very experienced members from around the world.
Now if the OP had ‘Biotest’ on his arm, it would be a different story, but the people that claim T-Nation is a cynical marketing ploy need to stop and think about where they would be if it didn’t exist.
I’m not just talking about training info, this extends to friendships, life lessons, and plenty of other things that can’t be learned from a book. I don’t care if this comes across as overly sentimental - you can’t put a price on these things, and as such, I wouldn’t regard them as commodities.
This site offers an opportunity to interact with people that you would otherwise never have met, and benefit from their experiences. Don’t take it for granted.
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exactly