My New E-Book (Beyond Steroids)

Bur Rain, he cant help it 85% of males born in Jersey are punks…

Jesus H… RJ if Anthony posts, you show up to talk some shit. Please learn restraint.

Maybe I did come off as sounding like a member of AR’s fan group. I didn’t know there was a problem with congratulating
someone on there previous work and showing interest in a new project. It really pisses me off that I can’t write something to commend an author without some fuckbag jumping on his desk and getting his balls in a jumble.

In my first post I didn’t say anything to warrant you posting and calling me pathetic. I don’t know where the fuck you get off in thinking you can call someone pathetic. Maybe it is because this is the internet, and everybody is a tough guy. Yeah, I have a temper and if someone calls me pathetic or other words of cowardice in the real world, I wouldnt hesitate to knock their teeth down their throat.

I think that, by arguing on the thread, we are detracting from Anthony’s work.
This thread isn’t about a dick swinging contest between anyone. If you would like to make it something more, start a new thread and we will talk there.

[quote]keaster wrote:
Maybe I did come off as sounding like a member of AR’s fan group. I didn’t know there was a problem with congratulating
someone on there previous work and showing interest in a new project. It really pisses me off that I can’t write something to commend an author without some fuckbag jumping on his desk and getting his balls in a jumble.

In my first post I didn’t say anything to warrant you posting and calling me pathetic. I don’t know where the fuck you get off in thinking you can call someone pathetic. Maybe it is because this is the internet, and everybody is a tough guy. Yeah, I have a temper and if someone calls me pathetic or other words of cowardice in the real world, I wouldnt hesitate to knock their teeth down their throat.

I think that, by arguing on the thread, we are detracting from Anthony’s work.
This thread isn’t about a dick swinging contest between anyone. If you would like to make it something more, start a new thread and we will talk there.
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You seem to mistake me for someone that cares. You jumped in on my ass on your first post in theis thread. I merely responded to you.

My initial post in this thread was to try and get someone that obviously knows nothing about the steroid industry to expand his horizon, and better himself.

Everything that followed has been bullshit. Even I will admit my part in that.

He declined because he didnt want to give you any more publicity. Negative or otherwise. He also asked you to answer “several” questions in that thread and you couldnt. “Several.” Why would the guy debate you, when you couldnt even answer a few simple questions on a thread? If I called out Chad Waterbury on an internet forum and demanded a training debate with him, do you think he’d grant me that debate?

I dont know if the guy is unstable or not. I do know his work has helped and influenced more people on these “steroid forums” than possibly any other “expert.” Maybe he cant claim that he “trained” anyone, but im pretty sure that his knowledge in the TRT field, holds a lot more water than claiming to have “trained” someone. Hey, lets not forget Joe Weider is the “trainer of champions.”

Personally, I question the “mental stability” of someone who claims to have been on a permanent androgen cycle for years on end, and then write a “ground-breaking” article on PCT. Wow!

Every thread I’ve seen where you were involved in a “scientific” debate with another “guru” you basically were unable to answer several questions. In particular in regards to some of your irrelevant references.

[quote]“Also, what companies do I have personal ties to? I write for several companies, which is the nature of being a freelance writer. The only nutritional supps I reccomend is Biotest, however.
With regards to Research Chems, I use AG-Guys…as for AAS, I typically don’t “reccomend” anyone, but I will say someone/something is good, and/or if I use a product from a particular person.” [/quote]

There are several other research chem companies out there, that sell the same shit for a lot cheaper. Why do you pimp AG? And how come every time RJ comes around you try to degrade chem-one?

I think you guys make some really good points. Like rainjack said, I (and many people on this site)don’t have knowledge of steroid scene. We don’t really get the whole picture. I do like the point about research chems though. I buy the cheapest ones for what I need, as I know most other guys will. I have bought from Lion twice and will probably buy from chemone to try their stuff out(when they ship to Canada).

[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
My e-book is being (tentatively) titled “Beyond Steroids” (yes, I edited this part) and I’m bringing a hardcopy of it to the Syracuse Strength Spectacular. I’m not selling copies or anything, and I’m not going to have the PDF disks with me, but I’ll have a hard copy on hand for people to check out and flip through, if they’re interested.

So if you see me, and wanna flip through the book, or read some chapters, just ask! I want some feedback before it’s available for sale. [/quote]

This is going to be a great book! I cannot wait to pick up a copy :slight_smile:

Nick
AG-Guys

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Dragon wrote:
Since you are the best in your industry and basicaly wrote the book on useage …

You really need to get out more. Google William Llewellyn if you are really, truly interested in the best.
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Rainjoke,
Speaking of getting out more…you should maybe take some of your own advice as you are getting boring as hell.

The fact AR pointed out that you were a lying, duplicitous idiot doesn’t mean you need to stalk him and post the same lame crap at every opportunity…although I do understand that no amount of pleading is going to stop you…I do understand that between pimping and accounting…as an aside I’m not really sure which of those is worse…you must have plenty of time on your hands…but in fairness to AR he was really merely pointing out what was perfectly clear to anybody.

“The voice of intelligence…is drowned out by the roar of fear. It is ignored by the voice of desire. It is contradicted by the voice of shame. It is biased by hate and extinguished by anger. Most of all it is silenced by ignorance.” Karl Menninger

AR

If you want people to give you feedback on your e-book, I’d be glad to.

[quote]Heffernan wrote:
Rainjoke,
Speaking of getting out more…you should maybe take some of your own advice as you are getting boring as hell. [/quote]

I didn’t know I was here to entertain you. Maybe you should take up a hobby if you find yourself bored by my posts. Better yet - just don’t fucking read them, as I don’t even know who the fuck you are.

[quote]The fact AR pointed out that you were a lying, duplicitous idiot doesn’t mean you need to stalk him and post the same lame crap at every opportunity…although I do understand that no amount of pleading is going to stop you…I do understand that between pimping and accounting…as an aside I’m not really sure which of those is worse…you must have plenty of time on your hands…but in fairness to AR he was really merely pointing out what was perfectly clear to anybody.
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Who has a picture of whom in their photo album? Who has banned whom from every site that is stupid enough to grant who the power?

You wanna talk lame? You wanna talk liar? You wanna talk duplicitous? Your ignorance of the issue at hand is exceeded only by your gushing love for AR.

Comeback and try again when you have learned where the ‘clue’ store is, and you have one.

[quote]rainjoke wrote:
Heffernan wrote:
Rainjoke,
Speaking of getting out more…you should maybe take some of your own advice as you are getting boring as hell.

I didn’t know I was here to entertain you. Maybe you should take up a hobby if you find yourself bored by my posts. Better yet - just don’t fucking read them, as I don’t even know who the fuck you are.
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You self obsessed clown, you actually think that who you know matters.

My problem is that I can’t help but miss your drivel from one end of this forum to another. You have nothing to contribute to this thread but you just can’t help yourself. You don’t know me and you don’t know the majority of people who read the threads on T-Nation who I assume like me just shake there heads in absolute wonder at how fucking inane you are.

Have you not noticed that every time you post this rubbish someone always comes out of the blue and feels the compulsion to post and tell you to piss off…well I know that you don’t know me…but this time it just happened to be me…

I’m sure you won’t know the next guy either and I’m sure it’ll completely go over your head that the point that you don’t know them makes their message no less valid.

That is actually quite funny…I’m not surprised you don’t get that.

I take it that you think this is one of those…the whole world is crazy except me things…that everybody is dumber than you…once again your post proves the exact point I was trying to make.

Pathetic. That little ‘gushing love’ line of yours is getting as tiring as you are. You post the same crap every time some tells you to piss off…I don’t give a shit about AR and the only mention I made of him was in stating that he had done a lot of people a favour in pointing out what a liar and a hypocrite you are.

Will it be available as hardcopy, too? I much prefer to do my reading in a real book.

[quote]Heffernan wrote:
who I assume like me just shake there heads in absolute wonder at how fucking inane you are. [/quote]

If you know the reason why Rainjack gets PO’ed, then you wouldn’t be shaking your head. He (and others) have mentioned in past threads why they are upset by a certain someone, yet some people seem to overlook it and turn a blind eye to the subject.

I don’t really want to get involved in the arguing, but I do support Rainjack and he isn’t some troll that is looking for some attention. There is a reason why the man gets PO’ed.

Sure, a lot of this arguing back and forth isn’t necessary, but who am I to say what someone can say and what someone can not say.

[quote]Heffernan wrote:

You self obsessed clown, you actually think that who you know matters.[/quote]

No - I just said I don’t know you. And your right, Not knowing you really doesn’t matter to me in the least. You could be a gay bath house fluffer for all I care - which I don’t.

And your contribution to this thread has been? Oh that’s right - to come to the defense of your DC ass-buddy. Yeah - that’s contributing at it’s finest, right there.

Once again you mistake me for someone that actually gives a shit about who or what you consider inane.

Yeah - and two or three either PM me to tell me that they agree 100% or they agree right here in the thread. Some of them start out telling me to piss off, but the minute they actually have an independent fucking thought - they realize that I might, in fact have a point.

Isn’t that a lovely process? Yet it some how bothers you that I offer my opinion? Why? The First Amendment’s a real bitch, huh.

You seem to think that i need to. Maybe I will. The point is - I don’t know you. You have made no contribution at all to this thread. I offered to help a guy who had a horribly misguided idea about what “the best” was.

Do all the hooker cheerleaders get a dress - or did you just decide to get one on your own?

[quote]rainjoke wrote:
Heffernan wrote:

You self obsessed clown, you actually think that who you know matters.

No - I just said I don’t know you. And your right, Not knowing you really doesn’t matter to me in the least. You could be a gay bath house fluffer for all I care - which I don’t.
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If I was a gay bath house fluffer (I’m obviously out of your social circle as I didn’t know there was such a thing) I’m sure in that case you’d definitely would know me.

Ahhh some balance maybe…why are you commenting in this thread again? Oh yeah that’s right…you love the sight of your own posts. You seem obsessed by homosexuality by the way? I know AR forced you out of the closet regarding being a research chem company employee after you’d ommitted to mention it when you were pimping your little enterprise maybe it’s time for you to come out of the closet again?

Oh yeah…that’s right…you have a point but absolutely no one else does? Is that how it works? Because that’s how it seems forom just about every response you make…which is same mindless garbage each time.

If that’s why you’re concerned? Why didn’t you call your company say ChemTwelve what exactly does the ‘One’ represented…surely not that you guys hope to be the ‘No1’ chem company as that would appear to be a horribly misguided idea about what “the No1” was?

Finally some sort of female reference…but still can’t help but feel you have some ‘issues’ going on…are you sure all this hostility isn’t just a little misdirected?

[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Heffernan wrote:
who I assume like me just shake there heads in absolute wonder at how fucking inane you are.

If you know the reason why Rainjack gets PO’ed, then you wouldn’t be shaking your head. He (and others) have mentioned in past threads why they are upset by a certain someone, yet some people seem to overlook it and turn a blind eye to the subject.

I don’t really want to get involved in the arguing, but I do support Rainjack and he isn’t some troll that is looking for some attention. There is a reason why the man gets PO’ed.

Sure, a lot of this arguing back and forth isn’t necessary, but who am I to say what someone can say and what someone can not say.[/quote]

I wouldn’t haven’t a problem with it either but I assume you know Rainjoke’s history as well and understand why a lot of people are equally PO’d with him after his little marketing campaign that enatiled him running down companies for months and then low and behold…you know what happened next. How could anyone take anything he says in good faith again?

[quote]Heffernan wrote:
I wouldn’t haven’t a problem with it either but I assume you know Rainjoke’s history as well and understand why a lot of people are equally PO’d with him after his little marketing campaign that enatiled him running down companies for months and then low and behold…you know what happened next. How could anyone take anything he says in good faith again?
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I believe he explained what happened in that situation, but, again, I don’t want to get into the bickering. If he feels like he needs/wants to tell the story again, he probably will.

[quote]Heffernan wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Heffernan wrote:
who I assume like me just shake there heads in absolute wonder at how fucking inane you are.

If you know the reason why Rainjack gets PO’ed, then you wouldn’t be shaking your head. He (and others) have mentioned in past threads why they are upset by a certain someone, yet some people seem to overlook it and turn a blind eye to the subject.

I don’t really want to get involved in the arguing, but I do support Rainjack and he isn’t some troll that is looking for some attention. There is a reason why the man gets PO’ed.

Sure, a lot of this arguing back and forth isn’t necessary, but who am I to say what someone can say and what someone can not say.

I wouldn’t haven’t a problem with it either but I assume you know Rainjoke’s history as well and understand why a lot of people are equally PO’d with him after his little marketing campaign that enatiled him running down companies for months and then low and behold…you know what happened next. How could anyone take anything he says in good faith again?
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And a lot of people here understand the timing and the situation he was in. Go back to the old posts and then think about it.

JW

Anthony,
I was reading your posts on another site www.saskcurl.com/forum/default.asp that you were unhappy with the cover of your new ebook? Have you and your editor decided on a new cover design or have these problems ironed out?

JOG