My Journey With Sleep

[quote]Ghost22 wrote:

[quote]steelechris wrote:
It was too unpredictable with me so I stopped using it, 3/4 of a bottle still sitting in my supplement cache.[/quote]

Send it to me. [/quote]

Still on my list to try again in the future, just too unpredictable now with my schedule, it may work into being a weekend recovery supplement or something I take on my off week (usually planned around some sort of vacation time).

I’ve had sleep paralysis when I was 14 years old to 18 years, on a daily basis, multiple times a night.

I thought it was a ghost haunting me. Waking up and seeing a ghost in front of your eyes, while awake is unreal.

So having problems with sleep early on gave me a fascination with sleep. I did some research and just like you, found out that it was a medical condition.

After learning it was no ghost, it went away overnight. I would still get sleep paralysis a few times a year, but I welcome it. Let it come, because I know the cure.

Ready for the cure? As soon as your bout of sleep paralysis begins, realize what it is, and TURN IT INTO A LUCID DREAM! You can do whatever you want man, fly, make women appear, bone them all, or wake up at will, but I choose to sleep and try to control my dream.

Now if you are going to be taking sleeping pills, I highly recommend you at least skim through this book by Daniel F. Kripke, M.D, called Dark Side Of Pills. You can get a free ebook at his site: http://darksideofsleepingpills.com

I learned how to control my lucid dreams when I was like 6 years old from an episode of Rin-Tin. The way my paralysis occurs does not have any dream associated with it. Often there is nothing and then I am just trapped trying to wake up. When I do have the more normal dreams I do control them upon reailzing they’re dreams.

I took the Lunesta + Melatonin last night and it didn’t even do anything. The Passionflower Extract + Melatonin definitely works better for me.

Lucid dreams are awesome. I used to have sleep paralysis and it would scare me. But I did a little research and now I look forward to them, slipping into a lucid dream. I feel there is great potential with lucid dreams, but I haven’t been able to find it yet.

[quote]Con@n wrote:
Lucid dreams are awesome. I used to have sleep paralysis and it would scare me. But I did a little research and now I look forward to them, slipping into a lucid dream. I feel there is great potential with lucid dreams, but I haven’t been able to find it yet.[/quote]

Sleep Paralysis you realize is different from a Lucid Dream. Nothing really happens when you’re in paralysis, neither in the real world or in the dream world.

Well these last few days have been great on sleeping. Passionflower definitely does more than Lunesta for me. But now a new problem has developed. My jaw started hurting the very next day but thought little of it, its gotten progressively worse though and is really hurting today. I’m thinking its Temporomandibular Joint Disorder (Temporomandibular joint dysfunction - Wikipedia).

I’m not sure how the Passionflower Extract has been affecting this or if its the added sleep that has caused it but my jaw has never hurt until these last 4 days. But not sure how the symptoms present themselves so maybe for some reason I got the insomnia and anxiety prior to experiencing jaw pains.

I’m going to try and call the Neurologist today and see what he thinks about this new symptom.

i wake up all the time paralyzed but i don’t have any visualizations or hallucinations, occasionally i have a “false awakening” where i think i am awake only to become actually awake then paralyzed, is this still sleep paralysis even without the hallucinations??? the first few times it really scared the shit out of me, but now it doesnt because im so used to it. I find it tends to come in clumps, it might happen 5 days in a row and then not happen for a couple a months. I find if i think about moving my big toe i can get out of it faster

Yes that is sleep paralysis. Often times when it happens to me there are no fun hallucinations or very subtle ones. Like one time the only thing that was changing was the stucco ceiling was moving just a little. I once had a similar experience except it was the pattern on the sheet that was moving. But then many times nothing was changing at all.

Was just stuck could see the room but when I try to turn my head or move a limb I can’t, I swear the second time it happened to me I was probably stuck for what felt like a full minute or two. Usually I can unstuck myself in about 15-20 seconds now since I’m a bit “used” to it.

As far as my sleep problems are concerened. I guess mine stemmed from allergies. I started to use a nasal rinse every night right before I hittin’ the sack. I breathe so much better at night now and my quality of sleep has gotten better…oh and I sleep a bit longer as well.

[quote]Seize wrote:
As far as my sleep problems are concerened. I guess mine stemmed from allergies. I started to use a nasal rinse every night right before I hittin’ the sack. I breathe so much better at night now and my quality of sleep has gotten better…oh and I sleep a bit longer as well.[/quote]

Are you talking about those things that look like a tea pot that you fill with a solution of some kind? My wife snores like a mofo and it’s getting worse and anything that would help that’s cheap I’m willing to look into. I don’t think it’s sleep apnea because she doesen’t stop breathing, however I’m no expert. She phoned a sleep clinic about it and they wanted $2500 to “fix” her snoring!..fuck that noise.

Is restless leg syndrone just involving the legs or whole body twitches. My wife tell me I twitch every thirty seconds but it’s usually my arms. I also wake up alot but to me it seem I wake up because I’m uncomfortable. I dream constantly as well, pretty much every night and they are mostly unpleasent to say the least. Connection?

This subject is facinating to me and feel sorry for anyone who has it way worse than my myself.

Edit/ I consider myself a light sleeper but whenever there is a thunderstorm at night I never hear it or wake up, weird.

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]Seize wrote:
As far as my sleep problems are concerened. I guess mine stemmed from allergies. I started to use a nasal rinse every night right before I hittin’ the sack. I breathe so much better at night now and my quality of sleep has gotten better…oh and I sleep a bit longer as well.[/quote]

Are you talking about those things that look like a tea pot that you fill with a solution of some kind? My wife snores like a mofo and it’s getting worse and anything that would help that’s cheap I’m willing to look into. I don’t think it’s sleep apnea because she doesen’t stop breathing, however I’m no expert. She phoned a sleep clinic about it and they wanted $2500 to “fix” her snoring!..fuck that noise.

Is restless leg syndrone just involving the legs or whole body twitches. My wife tell me I twitch every thirty seconds but it’s usually my arms. I also wake up alot but to me it seem I wake up because I’m uncomfortable. I dream constantly as well, pretty much every night and they are mostly unpleasent to say the least. Connection?

This subject is facinating to me and feel sorry for anyone who has it way worse than my myself.

Edit/ I consider myself a light sleeper but whenever there is a thunderstorm at night I never hear it or wake up, weird.

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From what I’ve read on the subject Restless Leg Syndrome can be in other parts of the body but typically its in the legs. It is much more likely you have Periodic Limb Movement Disorder which is categorized by pretty much exactly what you described: Periodic limb movement disorder - Wikipedia

^ thanks for taking the time to find that link. I’m going to look into this further.

Jimmy legs lolz. I’ll show it to my wife as well. I wear ear plugs at night because of her snoring, I should also mention her mother snores like a freight train, my wife is not that bad yet but I fear it’s coming, thank god she quit smoking. I’m crossing my fingers that she won’t be as bad as her Mom.

[quote]Enders Drift wrote:
The way my paralysis occurs does not have any dream associated with it. Often there is nothing and then I am just trapped trying to wake up.[/quote]

This is how my sleep paralysis happens. For me I would have extreme difficulty breathing, every breath is a struggle, every breath agonizing. I always thought that this was how people died in their sleep, that if they gave up trying to breath, they would die.

But as I found out what sleep paralysis was, the next time it happened to me, and it was hard to breath, I just stopped and gave up breathing. Guess what? I didn’t die. Eventually you can have lots of adventures with this. Out of body experience, walking through walls, etc watching your own body sleep or dream, etc.

Op, when you have sleep paralysis, are your eyes open and can you see the room? But is it just a dream that you are lying down with your eyes open seeing the room?

Yeah usually. Right now I seem to also be having a jaw issue as I mentioned. Last night it started throbbing if I laid on my side so I tried laying on my back… had 3 episodes of paralysis simultaneously. Ended up taking 2 ibuprofen and staying awake until it took effect and then fell back asleep on my side.

And yes every time it happens if its on the early stages of sleeping it feels like you’re stopping breathing. I don’t find that happens if it occurs during the waking process.