My Honest Experience With Testosterone (TRT)

Sho weren’t. I would bet he’s here under a different name though.

Don’t think so… I conversed with him enough to be able to spot him pretty damn quick :wink:

I do, aromatase excess syndrome, whilst very rare… does exist. People with this syndrome require aromatase inhibitors or otherwise need to be treated with a non-aromatising androgen

?? The guy has a nice physique. Not big/bulky but lean/athletic, looks like a swimmer who lifts weights, very desirable physique for the average male, girls will swoon over his look far more often comparative to the roided out bodybuilder look (unless it’s the golden era look, then it’s equal)

What about the concept of Leydig cell downregulation from prolonged use. We have no clinical data regarding prolonged HCG usage in men… we only have rodent studies to look at, and whilst the doses used are admittedly somewhat higher, they all indicate long term use may damage Leydig cells irreparably, however with that being said it’s a crapshoot as the majority of the time rodent models don’t correlate entirely to human response

Out of curiosity, what were your labs prior to taking an AI?

No shoulders, can’t see his arms or chest really, but I’m guessing no legs either. Which is fine if you’re some dude walking around. Post a picture glorifying the results of your hormone treatment though, and you should be really offering something up. In other context I would have left him alone with it, but given the self-glorification aspect a fell is going to get roasted.

Unfortunate… But true…

I take no offense man, I like to hear different perspectives

  1. fair enough, didn’t know about the cream bieng effective

  2. Not trying to knock doing daily injections. My point was that in general doing more injections in lower doses Is better. Maybe I didn’t communicate that though

  3. I think some people do get benefit from one if dosed properly

  4. Matter of opinion I guess. I would do anything to minimize likelihood of my balls shrinking

Has your girlfriend/wife ever said, “Honey!! Your balls were AMAZING last night!!”

Mine neither.

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What do you feel is the downside of hcg

In the majority of men, it causes more side effects than anything else. Spikes estradiol and sends it out of whack. Some men get really bad acne on it (like me). Most men report feeling better on T alone than T plus hcg comparing the same free T levels.

Desensitization does not occur at low doses; 250IU twice per week. Also, desensitization is a completely moot point when compared to not using HCG and allowing testes to atrophy and shutting off the body’s downstream hormone chain of Cholesterol>Preg.>DHEA, etc. via LH/LH analogue (HCG).

How long had you been on HCG? You said you came off HCG 1.5 years ago. The science is there to back up the body’s requirements for LH/LH analogue (HCG) in the link I provided. This is well documented, it is in plenty of other literature/studies you can find readily if you research. Perhaps, in your case you can still have the perceivable benefits ie Libido, etc. But, there are background negative effects occurring within your body that you will not notice for some time. Most men, myself included require HCG w/HRT otherwise we have no libido because of the impact no LH has on the body. If it works for you great, but please don’t tell others HCG is purely for cosmetic reasons when the science clearly says otherwise.

I’ve actually been complimented by multiple women in my lifetime about how amazing and beautiful my balls are. :+1:t2::egg::egg:

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Two issues here:

  1. In an almost 5 year period of being on TRT I was on HCG for roughly 4 months and stopped a year and a half ago. Libido has been increasing steadily since getting my dose dialed in better mostly as a result of raising free T.

  2. I’m in contact with many, many, many guys who have never been on HCG and have raging libidos with some of these guys being on TRT for over ten years and some even for twenty years and more.

I can understand that you are seeing this in theory, but in practice I’m not seeing it nor are any of the docs I’ve been dealing with. Dr Jordan Grant discusses it briefly in that video we did. Eric Serrano Part 1 that we did two weeks ago discusses it as well. I’m trying to think which other ones.

Eric Serrano uses it for neurogenesis for men with spinal cord injury and fertility. Nothing more.

Would this guy treat me out of state? If so…how can I can get in touch with him?

I was just giving an example of a doc who uses HCG for reasons outside of what you guys use it for. Dr Serrano is in Ohio. I had asked where YOU were located. Eric doesn’t do telemedicine unfortunately.

I’m in Louisville Ky…Nearby cities would be Indianapolis and Cincinnati.

You’re about a 3.5 hour drive from Dr Serrano in Pickerington, Ohio. That would be totally worth the trip.

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Man…his website looks a little shady to me…Like a supplement charlatan …

You vouch for that dude? Links to any videos of him discussing TRT?