My First Test Cycle (WITH BEFORE/AFTER PICS)

Hey man. Sorry for not getting back to you. I’ve been off the forums as I was on holiday for a month and then back to my practice. I think you messed up taking the arimidex at all. As most people know on these forums I am pretty damn against it as a drug and most people have zero need for it. If anything I use aromasin very rarely with my patients. At the doses you were using I would have suggested no arimidex. But you made progress. Now take a break and let your receptors chill out and we can plan a second cycle.

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Holly shit =D thanks maaan! =D Great to hear from you, sorry for me getting pissed of at you… =S

Ey yeah, but do you think I could’ve gained more if without arimidex? I was so afraid of esp. gyno. But actually I didnt get ANY sides. The water retention was also imagined…

Ive read studies about factors affecting muscle growth iehow much estrogens affect muscle growth. There is tons of controversial info and in the end I got the understanding that estrogen plays a big role in building muscle but low and high estrogen didn’t affect the speed of muscle gain. Dont know if it’s totally zero. I didn’t crush crush it but I felt like “shit”. I cant say actually shit because in my younger years Ive done alot of recreational drugs and coming down or withdrawal feels like SHIT! But I was cold and had absolutely no hunger and more lethargic. Usually I always carry my daughter (22kg) on my shoulders for 1km at 8.30am in the morning to the kindergarten. But the times I crushed it (took me like 3 days to recover, pretty quick so I think I didnt crushcrushcrush it thanksgod except for the first time it took a whole week) I was so lethargic I barely couldnt get up and sometimes my spouse had to take her there.

I think I’m a very poor aromatizer. Next cycle if 500mg test I wont use any AI. Like I havent for the last few weeks now. Now my cycle is over.

I have learned a ton. First by studying. And then by LIVING IT :wink: Now I know how I react to shit.

Omnadren test blend 500mg/wk : a charm for me, feel good and healthy, libido very nice (has helped with my relationsship, I was horny and I felt more like a man to get my lady much more often between the sheets then usually), really no sides I can recon
Upped OMNADREN up to 680 (for 3 weeks? intention was for 5 weeks first) so it was e3d 250mg and that was too much. I just didnt feel comfortable and dropped it.
Arimidex: NO NEED not with 500
RIPPED BLEND: test prop 100/tren ace 75/masteron 75 e3d for last 3 weeks. I can only imagine what a bigger dose of tren can offer… I went with test:tren 2:1. Honestly I can say that tren is too harsh for my mind. I didnt feel good. It kinda downed me and my motivation and my dick also! I had difficulties to get hard ones or keep it up, fuck! Luckily it was temporary only. And I know I have bipolar type 1 and 3 different medications for it and I had a feeling thatg the tren might not be for me. But I wanted to try it! =D It’s because of my fucking personality =D But now I know. And about masteron I cant say anything, too short, too little too much BF.

BUT HEY! PHYSIOLOJIKS I HOPE YOURE THERE NOW:

Nowadays or I have the new Omnadren=sustanon which has the decaonate ester which half-live is 15 days. I did week 8 and 9 just 250/wk. Weeks 8-10 I did the test prop/tren ace/mast e2d. So it’s been now 14 days after my last omna250 pin and 4 days (last thurs) after my last short ester blend pin.

Question: Some say start pct 2wks after susta/omna/long ester test (both have decaonate 15d half live), some say 10 days and some say even 18. So when should I start my nolva(/6-bromo/tribulus)?

And does it matter that I took JUST 250mg omna/week weeks 8 and 9 considering the starting time of the pct? I mean there’s much less left of test after the two last pins being 250 instead of 500. Simple dividing math. But I cant find if it matters if one stops sust/omna with 250mg or 750mg considering the starting time of PCT. Making it simple (not separating the different esters and there half lives from each other and just counting the last two jabs): After two weeks of last 250mg pin there’d be 125mg plus 93,75mg from the previous week 8 pin left. approx. 220mg. with 750 (last two pins)the amount would approx. 660mg. So thats quite a difference in blood levels 220 vs 660. Should I take this into consideration with the pct start time? Or am I just overthinking and being too complicated and acting like a dick here with my “exacticism”. Ive just understood that PCT timing can be quite important.

Yes, I have nolva, but I used just 750mg tren ace during 3 weeks so how about here? I know there can be problems, but is the tren almost out of the body by now…? No progesterone rebound issues etc

Could I start today for four days (14-17) taking 10mg/day (because I have a couple pills over) and from day 18->30mg in 30/20/20/10

I mean some say it’s a waste to throw in nolva if your test levels are still a little up and one would benefit the most if starting popping the nolva when test levels have dropped lower, I dont know how low, believe that pretty low. So that’s why I’m thinking to throw now 10mg/d for 4 days so I can be sure my test definately is low enough and the boom upper the dose to 30. Why 30? I’ve read even 20 can be enough for most, overshooting like with the AI’s. But who am I to say! That’s just info I have gathered during this fall and winter.

6-bromo 50mg/d okay? not suppressive with that dose I understand
Tribulus has been shown to increase LH in studies (cant remember but there quite alot about it)
D-aspartic-acid? 3g/day…there was a study 3g/d vs placebo same results in test levels, and 6g/d LOWERING test!
D-vitamin: 10,000IU 3x/wk think is enough
zinc(picolinate): 22mg/day
OptiMen Blend (vitamins herbs and shit)
How about mucuna pruriens? and ashwagandha? Have used them before as natty. But anyone experiences? do they benefit the recovery process along with the hard drugs?

Okay, now Ive written again more than enough.

I hope my text is not too confusing… =S

2 weeks into pct. nolva 20/20/20/20. studies say 40=20. 40 may speed up the recovery. havent done any exercise for 3 weeks and eating like shit (because of a short episode despite eating my medication). 2 weeks into nolva. here’s a pic. in best shape evah. is it because the estrogen cant bloat u now because of the nolva? i mean I have always done 110%, maybe my mind and body needed a break?

tammipose

norse-str3ngth?

Stick with the PCT, try to add weight to the bar over the next few months. Keep at bud it doesn’t get easier from here.

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