My First IM Cycle

Pharma
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Hello everybody,
I decided on Test E 400mg a week for 10 weeks, a basic AAS cycle, one that I know will be worth my while. A little history on me…

Age - 23
Weight - 172lb
Height - 5’8

My lifting has been pretty consistent throughout college, so about a good 4 years under my belt. I don’t focus much on diet, but I know to eat as much as possible. I do eat clean, I try get in a good amount of protein, lots of carbs in the day, less near the evening.

I don’t usually count my workout days by the days of the week, I just have a schedule of working out three mornings in a row , then rest for the next two, then start back up again for another three, ie {Mon-Wed} Lift – {Thurs-Fri} Rest – {Sat-Mon} Lift – and so on.

Three exercises and sets for each muscle, reps 6-8
Day1. Chest/Bi
Day2. Lower body/Shoulders
Day3. Tris/Back
I usually do cardio and abs on my rest days.

Still waiting on the gear, 15 days since shipping. Have to say I hate the waiting game…

The only ‘cycle’ I have ever done had been two Dbol only stints, and I wasn’t happy much with the results. Maybe at a higher dose would have been better, 30-35mg a day with an AI… Who knows. Different drugs affect different people differently, respectively :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: All consequences aside, I couldn’t go wrong with Test being the base, simple.

Wk 1-10. E3D 200mg Test E
Wk 1-10. .25-.5mg ED Letro
Wk 11-15. E3D 50mg Test E
Wk 16-21. Taper Test E per week - 80mg / 60mg/ 50mg/ 40mg/ 30 mg/ 20mg.
Wk 1-21. ED 1mg Finasteride

I learned from Dbol that I’m prone to water weight, as well as gyno so I added some Letro in there. I know to taper off Letro on week 18. I have a little Nolva that I’ll start during the taper week.

What kind of needles are to be used during the taper for such small measurements? Would insulin syringes with 29 G X 1/2" 1/2 CC be sufficient? If so, how would I transfer from the syringe in which I’m storing the oil, to the insulin syringe?

Since I did Dbol as my first and second cycle, would the dose of Test for my third cycle be important? My steroid receptors aren’t exactly virgin anymore, so I won’t be getting those newbie gains off Test. Would it be better to up the dose to 500mg a week?

I have some Dbol laying around, 65 tabs of 5mg, so I could kick start with that for 13 days at 25mg a day… Or I could front load test… Which do y’all prefer, if either? Would I be able to do both?

Whew, sorry for the long post. I just want to make sure I’ve got everything down right before I start. Please proofread, and comment on anything I could fix.
Thanks

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Your cycle would have your running 600mg of Test/week not 400. And I think most would prefer Adex over letro.

I read some articles a while back about dosages between 300-500 of test and lengths of 8-10 weeks cycles. If i can find them ill post them here for you. But if I remember correctly, upping the dose to 500mg/week for 12 weeks may be better for you for a number of reasons.

One being that shutdown would be the same on both dosages. Two, the gains difference between 400 and 500 a week will far out number side effect differences if any. (usualy there are none, according to the article, except in very sensitive individuals)

I think the recommended size for the taper is 28g 1/2 inch needles. You can check out the Test taper sticky for clarification.

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Thanks Jazz,

Those articles would be very helpful, I’ll extend the cycle to 12 weeks. I decided on E3D because I wanted to keep steady blood levels, but would it be any different than 2x a week?

I obviously want to get the most out my cycle, and do it as safe as possible with gains that will stay and the least sides. I want to prevent ‘blowing up’ all of a sudden. If I pack on muscle that quick, it’ll be a dead giveaway what I’m up to.

That is the main reason I chose Letro over Adex for the bloat, because I’m vulnerable to estrogen, even at low doses of Dbol. I’m looking for steady, constant gains. With that in mind, would it better to start the cycle at a lower dose and work up to 500mg?

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Ill Let more experinced users chime in on your questions about the injection frequency and the adex vs letro.

My point was that you said that you were injecting 200mg E3D. That means that your schedule would look something like this.

Mon: 200mg
Thur: 200mg
Sun: 200mg
Wed: 200mg
Sat: 200mg

A 12 week period would pan out to you using *500mg/week not your proposed 400mg.

And what I suggested to you was all based on some articles I read so please dont just take my word for it. Im realatively new to the game myself which means Im still learning too. There are lots of great threads on this forum with tons of info so just make sure you search for them.

I would think though, since you have done 2 cycles already that you wouldnt fall into the beginner category as far as receptors and such.

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[quote]Maya00 wrote:
Thanks Jazz,

Those articles would be very helpful, I’ll extend the cycle to 12 weeks. I decided on E3D because I wanted to keep steady blood levels, but would it be any different than 2x a week? I obviously want to get the most out my cycle, and do it as safe as possible with gains that will stay and the least sides.

I want to prevent ‘blowing up’ all of a sudden. If I pack on muscle that quick, it’ll be a dead giveaway what I’m up to. That is the main reason I chose Letro over Adex for the bloat, because I’m vulnerable to estrogen, even at low doses of Dbol. I’m looking for steady, constant gains. With that in mind, would it better to start the cycle at a lower dose and work up to 500mg?[/quote]

200 mg E3D will be fine for what you want, and is a great first cycle. There’s little sense ramping up the dose as test E is relatively slow acting anyway.

I’ve never used letro, but many don’t like what it does to their joints. Do a search for ‘letro joints.’ Also, carb and sodium intake can have just as much effect on bloat as estrogen. Keep it clean and you’ll be less likely to explode too fast.

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Letro seems like some powerful stuff. Is Letro looked at more as a gyno treatment than something to run along with a cycle? Adex seems like the AI of choice around here, unfortunately I only have access to Letro for my cycle. Some estrogen is OK, zero estrogen isn’t. If I ran Letro .25mg EOD with my cycle, would that dose still be killing off too much estrogen? I just want to keep gyno, bloating, acne, etc. all in check…