My Dog Attacked Me

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If you really love your dog, don’t have kids, and don’t think it’s going to rip your throat out, I would try the advice everyone has given you.

I personally don’t buy it, however.
Animals are individuals, and those prone to aggression can be extremely unpredictable; ESPECIALLY dogs, as their genetic history is… questionable.
Pretending that we understand their social intricacies is wishful thinking at best.
A mixed breed animal becoming aggressive as it ages should not be considered unusual IMO.

Not saying that discipline won’t work and that you should just go put the dog down; what I am saying is that there may not be any good reason why your dog is acting the way he is, and that unless you want to deal with it, that may be the only option.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Don’t worry sluicy, sirensongwoman woman is borderline retarded, your blanket statement was just fine.[/quote]

I would have apologized to you long ago for my ignorance regarding the issue on which I originally offended you, Waylanderxx, but you don’t allow pm’s. I know you’re still mad and, in hindsight (and with more education) I truly regret my remarks. I have a different view on the subject now and am sincerely sorry I upset you.

My pm works, however. It’s all up to you.

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umm I would rub peanut butter on your balls that always makes peace.

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[quote]SirenSongWoman wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Don’t worry sluicy, sirensongwoman woman is borderline retarded, your blanket statement was just fine.

I would have apologized to you long ago for my ignorance regarding the issue on which I originally offended you, Waylanderxx, but you don’t allow pm’s. I know you’re still mad and, in hindsight (and with more education) I truly regret my remarks. I have a different view on the subject now and am sincerely sorry I upset you.

My pm works, however. It’s all up to you.[/quote]

Did you insult his penis size? Waylander never takes that very well.

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i only read the first page so sorry if this was said.

-when he is aggressive immediately and explosively pin him on his back and hold him by the neck. NOT choking, just pinning him. It is important that it is the neck because that is what pack leaders do. No need to hurt the dog at all, just the dog on it’s back with something on it’s neck sends a strong instinctual message

-chew food and spit it out for him to eat. the pack leader always eats first and the saliva/sent shows who ate first. So make him lay, chew some food, spit it out. Yes you cam spit it in his bowl if you wish.

-same lines as above, when you feed him spit in the bowl.

-always make the dog lay when you eat and feed him after your meal. never at the same time, and never ever before you.

-i learned this from a dog sled trainer, when he had a particularly bad dog he pisses on the dog. Yes, he urinates on the dog. Pack leaders also do this to show who is boss.

Basically all of the above tap into the dogs instincts to show him you are above him in the order of things. They do no physical harm but send a strong message.

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[quote]Rek wrote:
i only read the first page so sorry if this was said.

-when he is aggressive immediately and explosively pin him on his back and hold him by the neck. NOT choking, just pinning him. It is important that it is the neck because that is what pack leaders do. No need to hurt the dog at all, just the dog on it’s back with something on it’s neck sends a strong instinctual message

-chew food and spit it out for him to eat. the pack leader always eats first and the saliva/sent shows who ate first. So make him lay, chew some food, spit it out. Yes you cam spit it in his bowl if you wish.

-same lines as above, when you feed him spit in the bowl.

-always make the dog lay when you eat and feed him after your meal. never at the same time, and never ever before you.

-i learned this from a dog sled trainer, when he had a particularly bad dog he pisses on the dog. Yes, he urinates on the dog. Pack leaders also do this to show who is boss.

Basically all of the above tap into the dogs instincts to show him you are above him in the order of things. They do no physical harm but send a strong message.

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Damn thats awsome, dude pisses on his sled dogs! Haha! I’m sure it is probably effective though lol.

V

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Rek wrote:
i only read the first page so sorry if this was said.

-when he is aggressive immediately and explosively pin him on his back and hold him by the neck. NOT choking, just pinning him. It is important that it is the neck because that is what pack leaders do. No need to hurt the dog at all, just the dog on it’s back with something on it’s neck sends a strong instinctual message

-chew food and spit it out for him to eat. the pack leader always eats first and the saliva/sent shows who ate first. So make him lay, chew some food, spit it out. Yes you cam spit it in his bowl if you wish.

-same lines as above, when you feed him spit in the bowl.

-always make the dog lay when you eat and feed him after your meal. never at the same time, and never ever before you.

-i learned this from a dog sled trainer, when he had a particularly bad dog he pisses on the dog. Yes, he urinates on the dog. Pack leaders also do this to show who is boss.

Basically all of the above tap into the dogs instincts to show him you are above him in the order of things. They do no physical harm but send a strong message.

Damn thats awsome, dude pisses on his sled dogs! Haha! I’m sure it is probably effective though lol.

V[/quote]

i’ve used them all and they work great.

A key thing to remember about dogs that need all of this though, just because they finally give to their master does not change their behavior to others. In other words, if a dog tries to be the boss to everyone it meets and bites children etc. this will not solve that.

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That’s a tough one, i couldn’t have a dog that I thought would attack me at any moment. If he was just being playful that’s one thing, but If he was growling or looked pissed, that’s another. Dogs aren’t supposed to bite the hand that feeds it. he’s probably retarded or something.

i really hope it works out for the best.

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[quote]Rek wrote:
i only read the first page so sorry if this was said.

-when he is aggressive immediately and explosively pin him on his back and hold him by the neck. NOT choking, just pinning him. It is important that it is the neck because that is what pack leaders do. No need to hurt the dog at all, just the dog on it’s back with something on it’s neck sends a strong instinctual message

-chew food and spit it out for him to eat. the pack leader always eats first and the saliva/sent shows who ate first. So make him lay, chew some food, spit it out. Yes you cam spit it in his bowl if you wish.

-same lines as above, when you feed him spit in the bowl.

-always make the dog lay when you eat and feed him after your meal. never at the same time, and never ever before you.

-i learned this from a dog sled trainer, when he had a particularly bad dog he pisses on the dog. Yes, he urinates on the dog. Pack leaders also do this to show who is boss.

Basically all of the above tap into the dogs instincts to show him you are above him in the order of things. They do no physical harm but send a strong message.

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All of this stuff works on girlfriends/wives too FYI. mostly the peeing part.

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Sluicy has given some great advice, here are just a few things I wanted to add.

[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:

Over the past few months, he has started demonstrating aggression by growling and snapping at my feet on numerous occasions. Whenever I try to verbally correct him, it seems as if he doesn’t care. If I physically correct him, he gets physically aggressive right back.[/quote]

He’s herding you. You’re in his flock and he’s telling you where to go. That’s a big problem. Note where this occurs it could be specific to an area of the house or he may be claiming dominance over the whole household.

Corrections should be quick and sharp, followed by positive reinforcement when the dog adheres to the correction. If you try to correct him with long sustained pulls on the pincher collar your efforts will be counter productive.

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Food time is ALWAYS after I eat and I make him perform several commands (Paw, Lie Down, Stay) before saying “ok” which means he is allowed to eat his food. He will growl if you try and touch him while he is eating. He is not possessive over his toys. [/quote]

This is a problem. He is being possessive, territorial, and exerting dominance.

You may want to keep a pincher/choke collar on him at all times possibly with a 12-18" lead attached during his dinner.

What I would do. Serve him 1/4 of his normal dinner. While he eats put my hand on him or pet him. If he growls, give a sharp jerk to the choke collar and make him sit. Praise him for the sit command. Allow him to return to eating. Repeat until he gets his normal full meal. Serve the meal in portions to limit any contest between you, him, and the food.

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No kids thankfully. My girlfriend has another smaller dog and a a cat which my dog has gone after before so we keep them in separate areas of the house now so they have no interaction.[/quote]

Again you caved in to your dog. The household, the people and any pets with in should be apart of your flock and under your protection just as the dog is. Unfortunately you haven’t taught the dog that. He sees them as intruders or meals in his territory not as part of the pack/flock.

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I really would like to resolve the situation. I have read several different books on the topic and have tried several methods with no luck. Here are some things that I do consistently

  1. I always eat my food before he does and make him work for his.
  2. I never allow him on the furniture or the bed.
  3. He does not sleep in the bed with us.
  4. I have walked him with the pincher collar with mixed results. He listens but a correction that is too hard will result in him turning aggressive.
  5. I constantly make him work throughout the day whether its sitting before going outside, eating etc or just giving me his paw before playing fetch. I do not play tug since I read this is not a good game to play with dominant dogs.

Maybe you guys see something I don’t. I would much rather have the dog learn his role in my household than to simply take him in.

Sluicy, you have been a big help so far ;)[/quote]

  1. My dogs eat at 7am and 5pm when I eat is pretty much irrelevant. If that’s y’alls pattern then stick with it.

2 & 3. That’s good. Keep it up.

  1. A given correction isn’t about strength or force. I’ve trained horses. No matter how strong I get I won’t over power a horse. The same with dogs. A correction should be sharp, quick and forceful, but not sustained or violent. You want the correction to catch him by surprise more than anything and then end just as quickly. You want to absolutely avoid triggering his “fight or flight” response (this is part of the reason you are having troubles with corrections). Give combined verbal and physical corrections simultaneously. If you have to tug the choke collar you have to give a verbal cue as well. Then reward the positive behavior immediately after

  2. Having him obey commands throughout the day…good.
    Playing with him so has plenty of exrecise…good.
    What your lacking is actually making him work. Chows are a working breed used for herding, pulling, hunting and guarding. A bored chow is a pain-in-the-ass chow.

Suggestions:
Research “clicker-training” and positive reinforcement training methods.
Research local dog clubs for Owner/dog obediance classes, Dog Agility Clubs, Herding Classes/seminars - They are more popular than you may think. To get you started - http://www.dogonitagility.com/
Make him work. The simplest Interval Training. Make him sprint/run with you then walk as you walk. Run. Walk. Run. Walk. etc…

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[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:
After dinner tonight, my two year old Shepherd/Chow mix decided to come after me unprovoked while I was lying on the couch. He scratched up my face and head pretty bad but none of his attempts at biting me broke the skin.
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No pic… didnt happen…

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[quote]SirenSongWoman wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
I think it’s truly fucking hilarious that if a dog get’s pissed off just once people are suggesting killing it, how retarded. Some real good dog owners we have here.

Killing a child and ripping someone to bits? Please…

Hilarious? Yea. A child in my neighborhood was mauled to death by a chow mix last year. In my neighborhood, such cases happen at least twice every summer. Maybe it’s an acceptable risk to you?

Nonetheless, though I haven’t owned a dog since I was twelve, I did suggest the OP talk to his veterinarian. They usually know a little bit about dogs…[/quote]

Do you ask your doctor for advice on how to set a new deadlift PR?

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…i’m sorry to hear about your dog…Chows are bastards…chow mixes can be too. good luck, you know your dog better then anyone, trust your gut and do what it tells ya.

CHOWS…NO THANKS

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[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:

He seriously acts Bi-Polar. He will be happy and non-aggressive, no growling for a month and then have an episode like last night where he just seems to come out of nowhere.

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Doggy lithium?

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ime, which is limited to my 12yr old pit, I used a pinning method similar to what has been described.
At the moment of unwanted behaviour I would wrap my hand around her snout, pin her on her back and growl (not yell) ‘no _______ (biting, garbage etc)’ and stare her down until she looked away THEN put her in a cleaned out closet to separate her from the ‘pack’. Not another room with distractions but dark and small area. After 10 min I would let her out without a word and ignore her for about an hour. After that she would be praised for doing something good e.g. lying down, chewing her bone.

I’m concerned that the dog doesn’t seem to get much interaction with other dogs. I took the dog to off leash parks as soon as I got her at 3 mos old. My dog would try to be dominant with other dogs but I had to be the top bitch and put her in her place right that second with the wrapped nose and on her back with my low growl until she looked away. I feel that was very important, the looking away part. Sometimes she was stubborn!! But this was as a pup not at 2 yrs old.

I would recommend two walks a day, consistent discipline and praise when the dog does good. I like the idea of the dog waiting to eat after the family is finished but no tricks maybe a treat after he’s done eating. If that doesn’t change anything, I would want the dog to get checked for a brain tumour. My friend had a dog who was freaky like that and it had a tumour :frowning:

Good luck and hard work with my dog made her the great animal and best friend she is :slight_smile:

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That’s my baby!

I def. agree with the walks being enough to wear the doggy out! A tired dog is usually a good dog :slight_smile:

Hope you get this sorted out with your pooch :slight_smile:

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You know what to do. Take him for a nice long walk with your .357 Magnum.

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I found good advice all over this thread. One thing I learned is to feed your dog by hand. Scoop the food up and give it to them, so it smells you all over its food. Unless you worry about getting your hand bit. My boxer AND Jack Russell terrier tried dominance when they were little and I did the lying on them. Now, if they attempt a stare, EVERY time I stare until they look away. Sometimes my boxer/pitt mix will keep staring, but it’s usually to see if I’m going to call him over.
Also, random herding. Alpha dogs randomly move their charges and keep them in a certain place. Doors dont work. Just walk up to him, keep walking at him and walking towards him, keeping in front of him. Not angrily, not trying to scare him, just herding him where you want him to go. Maybe to his bed? Then keep him there for a minute (working up to a couple of minutes?) and then give him a treat. My dogs follow a finger, “go lay down” and do so immediately. If they dont, I do the same thing, herding them to where I want them, and keep them there for a few moments. My boxer/pit was a bit of a problem at first, but he’s now the best dog I could imagine. He was work, and very worth it.

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Bite the dog back.

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Just use the tried and true south park method:
Red rocket! Red Rocket!