Fuck it, let him do whatever the hell he wants. Do your cycle and post your before and after pics and we’ll see how it goes. You’ll be the guinea pig here and in the end the proof will be in the pudding as to who was right. Now lets get this show on the road. Get that needle in your ass.
[quote]roninternational wrote:
Oh, this is an easy one! You’re 180 pounds! That’s the proof. Hell, I went from 160 to 220 just eating food. And you need steroids?
What when i only started training last july?! What do you expect.[/quote]
Oh, so you’ve been training a whole year?
Yeah, I said try and eat a lot of food. That’s knowledge.
You’re not even trying to get big with hard work. That’s obvious. This is constructive criticism. I’m not the one who pulled “bitch tits” out of my ass like some temper tantrum throwing punk piece of shit. You don’t have respect for the chemicals you’re enthusiastic about using “for fun” and you don’t have any respect for people that know how to get big, either with or without steroids. You’re a wanna-be, a poser.
While you’re juicin’ make sure you don’t get blood work done and have a doctor monitor your health. That way, you can really injure yourself proper. Be another teen statistic. Fucker.
OP, read this:
[quote]cormac wrote:
Dude, anyone can look like you with average genetics and average nutrition in a year. I personally know I’m stronger than you, about as lean as you, and just plain fuckin bigger than you and I’ve never used.
I’ve only been lifting for about a year. I know plenty of natural lifters that are bigger than you with less than a year and a half of moderate effort - you going for that Brad Pitt look bro? I suspect you’re trying to be cool with the big guys at your gym, so you buy gear from them… I bet you /are/ getting ripped off. Have some common sense and don’t waste your money. Yeah that’s pretty personal, but you invited it by starting one of the most uninformed and downright ignorant threads on this forum. EAT FOOD, DRINK MILK, SHUT UP AND SQUAT.[/quote]
Milk is for babies…when you grow up you have to drink beer…
Sorry, couldn’t resist
Come on. Let’s get serious. I want two more, no matter what.
[quote]Winger11 wrote:
Milk is for babies…when you grow up you have to drink beer…
Sorry, couldn’t resist
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[quote]roninternational wrote:
What when i only started training last july?! What do you expect.
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it is simple.
you have wrote it.
you have to learn to walk (eat right, train right, gain mass and strenght naturally) then you can learn to run…
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
It’s obvious to me that this fucking kid aint listening to any of you grown men…Hell, half if not everything he’s postin is probably bullshit, plain to fucking see.
The picture at top of post looks nothing like the fuckin teenager who's acting like a little fucking kid with all his other teenage friends in the video on his profile..
For the life of me, why in the fuck are all of you guys sittin here going back and forth, on and on and on with a game playin kid who's sittin over there with his buddies laughing at all of you??
But none of you guys will respond to a recent post of mine like, the ultimate oral cycle was, because you don't give a damn about oral only mother fuckers like me.....
Here I am tryin to get serious info and I dare say deserving of it, and I get ignored…Everytime I get help I’m grateful and praise you fucks over and over and yet you’d rather fuck off on this type of straight up nonsense, instead of helping someone who’s being serious…
Fuckin ridiculous and downright frustrating as fuck. I won't be postin shit anymore save a litle one here and there from now on..
Hope your happy with that, I'm sure you don't really give a damn...[/quote]
Want some cheese with that wine?
You already know the reason that you dont get much info regarding an only oral cycle is that most of us dont approve of them.
As has been posted on here at least 20-30 times in my year of being here a cycle consisting of 500 mg a week of test is far superior to any oral only cycle.
See Ya
It really has nothing to do with going with the crowd or not wanting to go against the grain. If I personally thought that you could make/keep good gains from an oral cycle then that would be the rationale I would use in suggesting products and doses to use.
The point that you dont seem to understand is that others are trying to help you by telling you that an oral cycle is not optimal. You take the same approach that the the kids in their late teens do in the fact that the information given is not what you want to hear so no one must be helping.
And no it doesnt make you a jerk if you are afraid of needles.
See Ya
Easy there, TBone. I doubt anyone is going out of their way to ignore your questions or judge you, it’s just that no one has the experiences (with oral stacks) that you were looking to hear about.
Now while I can’t speak for any of the vets here, I can prob safely assume they were stacking any orals they used with some base injectable(s). And when a cycle included multiple orals, you can bet they were split up (ie. dbol kickstart and var at the end).
Really, the best bet (for all of us) would be for you to maintain a log here of all your oral cycles and let us all know what you thought of var, dbol vs. var,drol, etc.
[quote]firestanggt wrote:
Come on. Let’s get serious. I want two more, no matter what.
Winger11 wrote:
Milk is for babies…when you grow up you have to drink beer…
Sorry, couldn’t resist
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“And if you don’t have it, don’t hit it…”
[quote]MikeKubo wrote:
firestanggt wrote:
Come on. Let’s get serious. I want two more, no matter what.
Winger11 wrote:
Milk is for babies…when you grow up you have to drink beer…
Sorry, couldn’t resist
“The wolf on the hill might not be a hungry, but when he wants the food it’s dey-ah”
“And if you don’t have it, don’t hit it…”[/quote]
The wolf on the hill may not be as hungry, but when he wants the food it’s dey-ah
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
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But I do think that there are guys here who at some point or another for whatever reasons have done oral only’s due to travel or personal reasons. Like Bushy has said a few times he did them before in the past and stopped because of certain issues ie:back pumps, etc. That’s what I need to hear about, any experience no matter how insignificant it might be to someone.
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Hi there TB, I think the problem is that your initial thread title was about ultimate oral stacks. I doubt if anyone has sufficient experience with orals only to have formed an opinion on what an ultimate oral stack might be.
From my own experience I can tell you that I like var and don’t like tbol (back pumps, libido issues, lethargy, fluid retention). But I couldn’t say what an ultimate stack for me might be.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Yeah I’m whining, that’s to get you guys fired up, it seems to work well, cause anyone goin against the grain gets jumped on pretty quick IMO.
I don’t really need to rationalize the reason for being oral only, who the hell cares? It doesn’t make me a jerk does it
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I saw your post back when you first put it up. I was kind of hoping you’d get more input myself. I’d have given my two cents also, but like you, I didn’t really have much experience/knowledge on the gains/effects of an oral-only cycle. All of mine have always had Test as a base.
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1530083&pageNo=0#1531315
a thread about d-bol only
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1500312&pageNo=0#1505234
a thread about oral only cycles
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1202698&pageNo=0
yet another oral only thread
there are a lot more…meaning more opinions/resources to read, absorb and make your own opinion…quit bitching and use the search engine…
seriously, all oral cycle questions are asked every fucking week it seems…i wish some folks would just take some time to lurk and make their own decisions based on a little legwork, instead of relying on everyone else to do it for them.
and while you’re at it…cram a god damn tampon in that bleeding pussy of yours…whaaaaaaaaa
that’s the best you can come up with?! cyber-weight? what the fuck is that?! sorry i spend time in the gym, not learning internet geek lingo. you bitch and whine and cry and carry on about not receiving help, while you slag anyone and everyone within earshot…and for that, you get a called a lazy bitch who is incapable of being a self starter and wants his wee lil’ hand held…and you can’t handle it?!
after you just dished out all that verbal diarrhea like a 3 year old having a temper tantrum…you are a prime example of why this forum has gone downhill.
sorry for busting your bubble with a dose of reality.
as per usual, the same advice holds true. use the search engine…come up with your own ideas and opinions…ask for a critique on a cycle that is obvious you put time and effort into developing…and go from there.
independant thought…wow, what a concept.