[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
In a few hundred years anti immigration stances will be seen the ame way anti abortion, are seen now, as stupid and ludicrious and reactionary relics of the past.[/quote]
lmao…
YEah, your head, in your ass on this one. While the rest of the shit you’ve listed my be true, you’re fundamentally confused on this one.
Also, so, in Britain one can be arrested for saying the wrong things, and is required to keep firearms at “the range” and detail every action with them?
lol, just lol. [/quote]
I don’t think I am wrong about this whatsoever. America itself as a nation shines light on this. At the time of the American Revolutin, despite slavery and all its horrors and domestic servitude and all the horrors that came with that and the other very grim realities of the time, the U.S.A was a completely revolutionary and liberal leap towards greater freedoms, that permeated most other nations and is now shaping the world in a very positive direction.
Before the U.S and before the French revolution, unquestionable certainties like Monarchy and Religeon and very rigid and unbending social relations existed. Patriachal boundaries made women mere property, race was something that would remove your rights to work and live as anyone else. Scientific thought and writings were regarded as heresy and all economic models that deviated from the fuedal and backwards ones of the day were met with srong resistnace.
Since the French revolution, since the American revolution, notions held as if concrete by the devotions partitioned to them have one by one been smashed by a surging wave of free thought and progress.
Notions like racism and partiachy, like class and position which were resoloutley stood by even by the revolutionaries have slowly, piece by piece been chipped away by the general public and the still surging waves of wanted freedom.
Take these issues:
Racism
Sexism
Homophobia
Religeous intolerance
Equality regarding voting, propety rights and inclusion is society
What was regarded as something that was impossible to think of as somehow dissapearing from the lexicon then is now thought of in a completely different way, like relics, like shamefull stains on an otherwise great history.
And in 400 years you don’t think national boundaries will be dwindled down and inclusion with the rest of the global community far greater?
Technology and imperialism connected all nations, by trade, by sattelite, by medical and economic advancement, by transportations rapid advancement and the now much much smaller world. All these things tore down the old isolationist models, this in turn created internal advances in nations, the internets role in the Arab spring for example.
As our technology advances, our ability to produce food and housing grows too, as our understanding of science grows our old bigotry declines and homosexuality and abortion and the mixing of races becomes normal.
Society and its momentum towards freedom and the end of almost all previous barriers and notions to it is leading to less isolation, less nationalism, less wars.
400 to 800 years might seem like forever, but if societal sonstructs and technology continue at this rate the idea national boundaries and our ability or want to keep them or even be able to keep them seems less and less plausible.
I am actually for almost non existent gun control, as most liberals would call it. Basic checks, basic training and you can own guns. I think the idea of being pro gun rights being labeled as right wing is insane, I am not right wing and I think the idea goverment should be the only ones with guns completely wrong.
I do however have to conceed the more gun control we have in the UK as opposed to the relatively very low gn control does seem to make the difference in our very low rate of gun deaths and your very high rate of gun deaths.
