We want anti-trust as well as section 230 reform. If these companies, editorialize or delete information or apply their rules unequally based on political bent, then they cease being platforms.
It’s like the Soviets. When my family would call home, there was always an agent listening. If someone said something political or against the state they would cut the call and sometimes even arrest the family member.
With twitter and Facebook particularly, we are getting way to close to that.
Anti-trust will take the power away from the small handful of people that have it now. Reformed 230 should mean that if they pull this crap in the future, they are liable.
How? Considering the history of failure and death, how the hell could socialist policy be good?
I guess being rebel these days means you support the establishment and praise big business. It’s astounding to me that the #resistance is all in for corporate banks, elitists, and crone-estabilishment types who want to put rules on others but not be subject to them.
Support big business! Fuck ya!
I just wanted to see some drama is all.
You replied to the wrong guy. Besides, I’m pretty sure he was being sarcastic. I was clearly joking with my post.
Also, I REALLY think you guys on the right gotta stop using the word “socialist” to describe everything that involves more government intervention. You dilute the word and people on the other side start thinking stuff like, “Hey, if universal health care is “socialist”, maybe socialism isn’t that bad after all!”.
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This really needs to happen. We’ve got to stop diluting the meaning of words if they are to remain effective.
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For sure.
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My bad. I apologize.
I could switch it up with communist. The whole ‘lip-stick on a pig’ thing. If something is a clear socialist tenant, then I don’t know what else to call it. I am sure there are synonyms.
Haven’t you seen the sickle and hammer soviet flags at the protests? There is already a way to large contingent who thinks socialism is a wonderful thing. Never having even looked at the places where it’s been, it is and how miserable those places are.
It’s not being used like ‘racism’ being levied at people who clearly aren’t racist.
We have many socialist tenants in the US that nobody really cares about. The fire department, the streets you drive on, unemployment. Socialism had some good ideas and some terrible ones (the state owning everything). I don’t see any issue with using some of the good ideas even if they stemmed from socialism.
It is not sound reasoning (slippery slope fallacy) to assume that getting some good aspect of socialism will lead to us adopting the bad aspects.
Well, I am not the type to just ‘go opposite’. There are intersections between every -ism. Socialism and democratic-republicanism do intersect at certain points and I have no problem with the things that intersect.
We just need to avoid the bad parts of socialism (state owns everything, fake democracy…). Single payer isn’t a slippery slope to Venezuela (in fact it is likely that we would save a couple percent of GDP on health care costs).
Single payer is worthy of debate and it’s not strait socialism, but it’s worthy of discussion. Finland’s government collapsed last year because of healthcare. So something would need to be worked out. I could be open to a public option if it was formulated the right way. I think strait single payer is a terrible idea.
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Lot’s of things aren’t “soclalist tenants”. Socialism is an ideology. We don’t call public parks socialist. Income based subsidized medicine and progressive taxation are basic economics, not some bourgeoise/proletariat shit.
It’s why Denmark essentially told Bernie to go fuck himself when he said they were socialist.
No, no, these are OBVIOUS MARXISTS/ SOCIALISTS telling you they’re marxists/socialists. We call a spade a spade. I’m not talking about them.
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You’re probably talking about the ideas of philosophers before Marx who were socialists. What we understand the word “socialist” to mean today is that of an ideology with variations by Marx/Lenin/Stalin/Mao. It’s a different thing altogether. Fire departments and streets existed long before Marx lol. If you consider lot of things with government intervention “socialist tenants”, they also overlap with “fascist tenants”. *I don’t think we want people to start going, “Hey we need a little more fascism here! Just not State Fascism!”.
*I know this is a serious subject and humor may be inappropriate or offensive to some people. Just imagine I’m saying this out loud in a Bill Burr voice.
Yep. Next time, we’ll get it right.
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I agree that it isn’t the textbook definition of socialism. We have had this conversation before (probably about 2 years ago). I am not interested in debating if it is the correct usage of the word, as I know you are already correct. I am more using the word to describe policies in which the population pays in to the system for things they might or might not use, or policies that regulate industry for the benefit of the greater good. Many of these types of policies are labeled as “socialist” policies by the right here in the US. Not the correct use of the word, but one that does occur.
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Here’s the problem. We are living in the age where the Babylon Bee is competing with CNN. Babylon Bee is accidentally reporting real news before the story even comes out.
The world is a spinning rock of hyperbole becoming reality. That which was so far outside the consciousness of what was possible, is now actual.
Check out what is happening with the Biden laptop fiasco. The actual story, initially, wasn’t a nuclear bomb. It was a bomb, just not Earth shattering. A politician is corrupt, who knew?!
The cover up and the lock-step censoring of the story, the lying about Russia is what made the story go over the top.
The media lying about the Biden corruption has become the bigger story. To bring this back around, what do you think happened in the Soviet Union or Cuba or Venezuela or North Korea? The very first thing they did was control the information and call anybody speaking the truth, liars. It’s exactly out of their playbook to create single party rule. This should be scaring the hell out of everybody no matter what side you are on.
What ever the information is, at least we want the truth, or as close to the truth as possible, not overt lies. So I cry, Socialism! Communism!
There is a power grab happening in this country and it is by the far-left and they are pushing out socialist policies.
We can try and disect policy by policy, sure, but the collective of policy proposals is a lurch toward socialism.
I think we are still marred by the disease believing that ‘it can’t happen here’ and we best get that non-sense out of our heads because people are trying, really hard, to make that our reality. We need to call it what it is, even if it’s annoying.
Well as the title of the thread says, the media lies all the time. Lies, Russia, lies, Russia, lies:
If your annoyed with the news, just show your dick!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! This is too much!
Spanking the monkey on a conference call!
Have you considered that you don’t have the ability to distinguish between news reporting and commentary? Don’t worry about it, man. Some people can but most people can’t. Maybe absorbing and using genuinely useful information isn’t your thing.
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