Well Pat, I’m against child porn/abuse too, but I just can’t afford the luxury of taking someone else’s word for things anymore, and given what little I know about it already, would never watch it anyways. My trust in any media sources is about as zilch as zilch can be. They’re all just too damn slanted and haven’t worried about the truth getting in the way of a good story for waaaay too long.
I’m just going to have to depend on what ever official agencies this has drawn the attention of to do their thing.
If it is what it’s being touted as, I hope they burn both here on earth and in hell, but at this point I don’t have any matches or gasoline.
The southern baptists, evangelicals, or what ever are already too well known for their pearl clutching for me to take their word, and the subject matter may range from uninteresting to felonious.
So it’s like a real catch 22 for “seeing is believing” types like us.
By all means, don’t take my word for it. Never take mine or anybody’s word for it. See for yourself and do your own research.
I want people to think for themselves. I just won’t tolerate even the appearance of support for hurting kids… You could say I am triggered.
Any Gen Xers remember the film Kids? That was a creepy movie too. So was L.I.E.
I am not interested in seeing Cuties because I know I will be repulsed by it, as I was by Kids, when I first saw it at seventeen years old.
I have watched films that horrified or disgusted me. But there are some that just left me feeling “not right” and I think others know what I mean. The film Rocco, available on Netflix, about the pornstar of the name had me feeling “not right” also. I no longer let morbid curiosity get the best of me anymore.
I’d actually take Hallmark films in which everyone lives happily ever after and the second rate acting over some of the thrillers and horror films I once watched.
I think you and pat both misunderstood where I was coming from. I meant that your writing of Netflix’s description “spirited dance troupe” was correct and the description was complete bullshit. Also that the whole defense of the movie by saying “it’s a criticism of child exploitation” was completely wrong.
So in other words I agree with you, and pat.
Fuck no. Also, see above.
Yes. I had no idea they made a movie about a male pornstar either (besides Full Monty), but agree. No chance I will watch anything knowingly with the chance it will make me feel like I lost a piece of my soul.
Second the motion to watch crappy hallmark movies over those.
I’ve been told that I am in danger of getting my “Bro” card revoked if I continue to watch “Hallmark” movies over the Holidays! (P.S. I REFUSE to Watch them over the Summer/Fall as has been offered. I want to keep them special for the Holidays. I don’t want them to go into mediocrity like all of the Christmas Cartoons and the Wizard of Oz did once they were widely available on VHS then DVD).
(Did I just feel my Testosterone levels drop a point or two???)
I applaud the commitment. We’ve given up too. Social media is also being pushed out here.
It does show how vastly different we are now. We as a nation can’t even agree on this anymore. Trans Children and 11 year old Cardi B like dance troupes.
I deactivated FB and IG. Sometimes I temporarily reactivate if a family member or neighbor would like me to see new photos (you know, newborns, holidays, etc.) or would like me to check out some update on the town’s page, but I deactivate shortly after or even forget to log back in for some time.
BTW, the notion of “don’t like it, turn it off” implies there’s not a common good in itself. We once had the Hayes code for this issue.
That also doesn’t work with children. I can one day put as many parental blocks on all devices in this home, discipline my children, and they likely will one day be exposed to terrible media.
And young people for the most part copy what they see. I can attest to this with more than enough personal experience. I vividly remember being in 8th grade in 1993, going to school the day after the premier of onyx’s video for “Throw Ya Guns in the Air”. Several kids were singing the song at lunch time and making gun gestures and mimicking the body language of the group, when meanwhile most were not from violent neighborhoods and never so much as even seen a gun in real life!
I also have stories that were unfortunately very similar to the sexual abuse shown in the film Kids.
“Turning it off” does not have any effect on a society’s mores; like none pretty much.
Or, if enough people turn it off, they will stop making it. Like this movie we are talking about; I believe that people should have the right to make movies, even ones that are controversial, provided they are not illegal, but I also have no desire to see the movie. If enough people feel that way, perhaps the next person who tackles the subject matter will approach it differently.
Your post is plausible but that’s not how I believe such matters should be dealt with and I don’t believe that’s how degeneracy functions or is stopped considering the sheer number of pathological people in this world.
No you’re not getting what I’m saying Pat. I know you’re outraged. The fake outrage is coming from Cruz, Cotton and the whichever other politicians are “outraged” about this. I don’t see this everyday. There was a troupe like this practicing in the same building our daughter was doing karate in, and she expressed some interest, and we said no for all the same reasons you probably would have. That type of dancing for girls of any age is inappropriate in my opinion. I’ve not seen a troupe like this in a while but I’m sure it’s going on around here, and I also guarantee you that it’s going on around you. If you don’t have a daughter of that age you it probably won’t ever get on your radar at all.
My problem with this “outrage” is this: These politicians are just getting some cheap publicity over this while this type of stuff is going on all over our country and on your tv right now! So why the selective outrage over one French film? Does it surprise anybody that some girls want to do this shit? Have you see NFL/NBA dance squads? That’s supposed to be family entertainment.
The Lifetime network has been airing Dance Moms for 8 seasons which is a show about the same type of dance troupes for young girls. Where’s Cruz’s outrage over this series? Where is yours? The show has been blasted for the same reason the film is being blasted but it’s OK to run it for 8 seasons. This show is set right here in the United States.
I’m probably done commenting on this as I’m not going to watch the film, and I’ve never even watched more than a preview of Dance Moms, but this whole thing just seems opportunistic to me.
I don’t disagree with your sentiments, especially that a lot of dance is highly sexualised but have you seen any of this movie? One dance has the girls on their knees, their chest on the ground, backsides in the air grinding while simulating masturbating a penis.
That ain’t no cheerleader dancing, there are degrees here and they matter.