So recording it on video and showing it to the whole world would make it better? Seems like that even worse. It’s like saying that a lot of 12 years olds are already having sex so why not put it on video and sell it?
This is true.
Yes. And if you, as a man, say something about it, you will get scolded by the woman who thinks it’s cute. Go see some cheer-leading routines from ghetto schools. What about cheerleaders in general? It’s not sexualizing minors?
You said “if don’t like it, don’t watch it”. If that’s the case then why should child porn be illegal?
I saw more than enough already.
That’s an argument that makes no sense as it isn’t child porn.
You’re right! Fortunately I’m married to a woman who was in full agreement with me on this one.
No, it’s not like saying that at all.
Ok. Here. From a female family member that also cancelled.
11 year old, dudes. Mods, I apologize, but the idea that children need to be portrayed in this manner to say something about Islam or our sexualized culture (by pushing the envelope even further…) is an excuse for what is at the very best an attempt to be a pretentious artistic edge lord.
Can someone tell me why it’s a good idea to become accepting of this?
There is no wanting, unconscious desire, to see sexuality in it. They’re sexualized to a degree that is undeniable.
Edit: removed image. Doesn’t need to stay up
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Your argument is
If that is the case then what’s wrong with child porn?
It’s all some reverse psychology bullshit, show little girls doing inappropriate things as social commentary against itself.
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You can’t see a difference between choosing to not watch a movie that is not child porn and wanting actual child porn to be illegal? And I hope you already know what is wrong with child porn.
I don’t see sexuality in it as much as I see little girls mimicking the behaviors of what they see on TV or YouTube or any social media.
Who is they? The characters or the actresses?
It is supposed to be sexually suggestive. That pose, along with images of them bent over, beckoning the audience by reachIng back between their upper thighs (I won’t post that)…There’s no reading into it. The neon signs were deliberately put out.
A message about drawing attention to our sexualized culture by upping the ante with actual 11 year olds? Sure…
But if that is the case why whine about the outrage? Isn’t that the desired social change? Pushback about sexualization of younger and younger women?
After the fact justification. The above picture is ridiculous.
Edit: not acussimg anyone here of anything. Unproductive approach anyways. Said my piece.
The wife and I had to look at the listing on Netflix after hearing the outcry, but went no further.
I think that the subject matter and its execution are one thing (very fucking bad.)
But the description on Netflix is downright deceptive, to the point of straight up lying.
It’s written as a coming of age young girl discovering herself and becoming interested in a “spirited dance troupe”. That’s just straight up bullshit. It’s not an after school special from the 80’s or even one of those underdog/art school teen rebellion dance things that my wife likes.
It’s written up like one, but rated TV-MA.
So if what it is being put forth is a critique of culture, why is it being described as a “flower blooming, dance troupe” thing, and constructed of material which warranted a TV-ma rating?
I mean, there is such a thing as caveat emptor, but how it’s described lends to letting down the guard and not understanding what it is you are about to see to the point of actually lying. My assessment is that the description belies the content to such a degree that it is at best deceptive, and at worst coercive in order to get people to watch something that they otherwise would not.
Edited to add the way it is listed/described on my actual television, but may need to take a better pic.
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It’s child erotica, they don’t fully undress.
What happened to “if you don’t like it then don’t watch it”?
It’s the only justification they could come up with for making a child erotica movie.
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Where the hell have you been hanging out where you see pre-pubescent kids gyrating and mimicking sexual acts? I’ve never seen it.
And you don’t need to sexually exploit children to show that it’s wrong to sexually exploit children. For the educated, we all know that supposed stance against it is a whole ‘wink and nod’ moment to sneak the movie through.
That would be like showing a porno to promote abstinence…
Do you really not get that to make this movie they had to sexually exploit these kids? They filmed them doing it for fuck’s sake. Your okay to exploit kids, to show that child exploitation is wrong? And you are not experiencing any cognitive dissonance from that?
There is nothing fake about my outrage, I am genuinely pissed. But of course I don’t see kids act this way everyday and apparently you do. At least that is what you said.
What does that mean? They are kids so I doubt they get the sexual tone of what they are doing. They are just copying what they have seen by what are, unfortunately, their roles models.
It seems like you want to though.
That would not mean you.
Because kids are smart enough to avoid creepy fucks like you.
Isn’t the film French? The people who wrote that probably didn’t see the film nor do they understand French.
I didn’t know that was a thing.
I know you want your gothca moment but your logic is faulty. If I don’t like to watch movies in which people are murdered it doesn’t mean that I believe snuff films should be legal, since I don’t watch them either. Films that depict crimes are not illegal but actual crimes are. Movies have actors, real life has victims.
Eh, I dunno. I do however know a producer that creates a show for Netflix, and know that Netflix knows its own content.
Plausably deniability, language and cultural context be damned, it’s being included as part of their platform makes it their responsibility to know. In my opinion.
Now, given that they are aware of the outcry/accusation it is incumbent on them to investigate and either continue on their course or change it.
At the very least, and it it could have probably reduced the hub-bub, change the label.
Fwiw, I’m in the camp of “If you don’t like it don’t watch it”, so I won’t. I know that there is a very clear risk of being flat out wrong when you run down a rabbit hole of grabbing an opinion that appears factual from over here (qanon) and a chunk from over there (Epstein et. al.)and using those bits to light the torch and grab the pitchfork.
We live in an era of the da’Vinci Code. The new normal is to grab tidbits and factoids then string them together into plausible stories that agree with an audiences confirmation bias.
Aside from the vulgarity of the material, this trend is also just as vulgar and disgusting.
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Normally, I agree with if you don’t like it don’t watch. But these assholes deliberately sexualized kids. I not only avoid kiddie porn, I am fervently against its existence. This is the “Brokeback Mountain” for pedos. Children were hurt in the making of this garbage.
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