I’ll say it. BLM is a political/media arm that will disavow as little and as lukewarmly as possible to a surprisingly passive mainstream media. They will push the limits and embrace as much as they can without forcing this media into the due diligence they should be doing.
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I think you are confusing BLM with the U.S.A.
I don’t expect them to come out against the chapters that do give some lip service to condemnation of violence. I expect them to come out swinging as a body against chapters and demonstrators shouting their name, using/excusing violence in their name and under their cause…Removing those chapters.
If you can sell a coffee mug as a body, and make statements as a whole on twitter about other matters, you can do that.
#Alllivesmatter was always the better movement and response. And more and more people are starting to see that.
I think you are generally right with your post last post as to why they won’t come out against violence or looting. Why should they? It would alienate a part of their base, and folks like you who are alienated by their silence don’t support their platform anyways.
Do you understand why the tagline All Lives Matter is considered racist? I understand you don’t think it is, but do you understand why others do?
It’s considered racist because I’m supposed to to say the phrase Black Lives Matter which is also the namesake of an organization with radical founders and a radical mission. Let’s be clear, BLM is a dare now. I dare you to not say it.
I don’t want to hear how some 4chan group makes me and anyone else unable to to say all lives matter. Or, that it is now racist for me to use the OK hand sign because some racists use it to.
Guess what? I bet they (racists) go to the damn movies too. And, love their mother in addition. I’m not going to stop either.
I can’t say blue lives matter after officers are injured and even killed (Dorn, a black cop at that) during these riots? I can’t say all lives matter as innocent people are attacked, frightened, maimed, and even taken at these mostly peaceful protests?
How about if I and other’s do the media’s job and point out the absolute absurdity of making Black Lives Matter some kind of check on marauding police and whites. How about some stats as to who kills who? How about the actual numbers of unarmed black men killed by police officers of any race compared to the numbers of black men killing each other?
How about inter-racial violent crime in general? First of all, inter-racial violence isn’t even remotely the rule. It’s the exception. The fact that black Americans, at 13% of the population, make up half of all offenders and victims of homicide is because of the actions of other black men.
However, where there are inter-racial violent crimes…I think folks would be a bit surprised at who victimizes who and in what proportions. Or, not.
And none of that is racism. That is the result of legitimately exploring a narrative that doesn’t seem to be reflected by reality. At least not in a way that supports such an inordinate response.
All lives matter. From the womb, to the prisoner on death row. Black, white, trans. I might not even agree with an individual. But their lives matter. And nobody gets to chill my speech on that.
Stop trying to draw sands in the line I’m now not allowed to cross. If ‘all lives matter’ could ever actually be racist its only because of the people who have forbidden its use for the public at large.
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Not necessarily all in response to you. It just branched from that.
I don’t think you understand.
The tagline Black Lives Matter means that black lives matter, too. It means that american society has systemic biases that continue to affect black folks disproportionately, and they feel as though their lives are valued less than the lives of other races. We already hold white lives, blue lives, etc in high regard so there is no need to say that their lives matter because it is already an accepted given.
When you say “all lives matter” it is essentially saying the status quo is good, everyone is on equal footing, and you are dismissing the concerns about racial inequality. It is co-opting their messaging to instead say protecting the status quo is more important than ensuring that black lives are valued as much as any other life here in America.
Personally, I think the term black lives matter needs to be taken to heart by black folks just as much as non-black folks. But that’s another topic. Simply put, I’m sure you agree that black lives matter, too… Why would you feel the need to remove the emphasis on black folks from a movement intended to gain black folks equality?
How much of an inequality problem exists, and how to remedy the problem is where the debate and discussion should be, IMO.
And don’t forget you can donate money.
No. It means certain black lives matter. It isn’t called all black lives matter.
No, I understand that all lives matter. I also understand that all includes black lives. And, that the folks who do value black lives less, by far and wide, share the same skin tone. Be it in the womb, in the home, or in the street.
You tell me a black person who comes from an intact home, who stays out of crime, and isn’t victimized by his cohorts, doesn’t have a damned good chance at a GREAT life in this country if he/she follows the way of his/her father/mother.
You know darn well where black lives are devalued the most.
It isn’t in my home. Or, in the homes of my white neighbors even.
A person who fits the intact home description above has a hell of a better start than I did by a wide margin. I admit to white privilege. I also flat out say it amounts to jack and crap to these days. I started out with abuse and abandonment. A congenital defect that now disabled me and threatens my life. I can’t remember one instance of either of my parents, who were in out of my life at different times, ever asking me if I had done my homework. Not one memory. I remember the abuse though. You tell me that the black child of a black fire-fighter and a black CNA who actually cared how he/she did at school that day didn’t start off more privileged than I in this day and age?
Does my life matter?
Can I say the lives of black people have as much value as my own? All lives matter?
Did I anti-racist a statement that by definition already included the lives of black people?
Even the event that sparked this fire doesn’t even seem to have an actual racial component. A pissed off cop kneeling on a resisting man who subsequently has some kind of drug induced panic attack leading to cardiac arrest. Even the very event that kicked this off was more of an all lives matter incident than a black lives matter incident. There isn’t even evidence suggesting that this had anything to with either the race of the cop or the deceased.
You know a civilization is desperate for racism to champion against when it has to insist the all inclusive phrase, all lives matter, is racist.
First world racism problems. Where people are paid thousands upon thousands to lecture white employees about their collective secular original sin. And how they contribute to it without even knowing or trying.
Heck, at least baptism erases original sin.
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Black lives matter too. It should be easy to agree with for folks who want to see black folks treated as equals to any other race. Really it’s pretty simple.
No need to try and insert yourself and your needs and wants.
They aren’t?
Different discussion. One we have gone back and forth on a time or two haha. And we are fairly similar in our thoughts on that actually.
But, it is sad there is so much pushback against simply saying that black lives matter too.
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…you’re needed in this thread…heh.
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I know BLM is a sham. Not only the organization founded on lies by three commie stoogettes but the very concept is a sham. Sorry, but saying BLM, getting the T shirt putting up the sign is all BS. It’s what people with guilty consciences do or people with no conscience who want to virtue signal and put it on social media do. It’s an easy way out of actually having to do something. I will never say BLM because I have no need to tell people things they can witness through my actions and life. If someone were to ask me if I think black lives matter I would tell them the very question is offensive. To ask that question is to say to someone you are unsure if they think black lives matter. To say black lives matter is saying that you think people, for whatever reason, might have cause to think you don’t believe black lives matter.
There are homes on my street with BLM signs out front. It’s a good thing they did that because all this time I assumed they were racists. I’m thinking about putting up a sign that reads I hate child molesters, cancer, pineapple on pizza, lead paint, rapists and pollution. I would hate for anyone to think I actually support those things.
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This alone proves you have no clue what you’re talking about.
I forgot that Americans believe there are two things that go with everything: cheese and bacon.
The implication being that they don’t? Woooowee! Lookie here fellas, I believe we have ourselves a gosh damned commie!
Two words that solve 67.9% of the obesity “problem” -
The only problem is that there aren’t enough cheese and bacon based desserts to follow up that double quarter Pounder with bacon and cheese upsized meal.
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