Mother Suffocates Boy, Buries Him in Playground

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its obvious that none of you have ever been placed in a situation like this,

for whatever reason her family got rid of her an dher child, not to mention after the fact the police can not get ahold of her family for any comments

she was homeless and watching her child sleep on cold playground equipment.
was it right for her to do this,no it was not
the fact she gave the child cpr to revive him is proof that she didnt want to follow through with this. and she panicked kind of a “what the fuck did I do” moment.
that right there,I mean imagine what she must have felt going through this, or what she was feeling to push her to this point.

I dont see this woman as being a piece of shit or a crazy person that wanted to kill her kid.
I see this woman as a person that was forced to have no choice but to see herself as taking pity on the child.

she saw it as she would rather her child not live to see the cruelty that was going on around her.

I think she needs mental help not punishment.

maybe before casting judgment on this person I think the question would be where is her mother, the person that tossed her out on the streets with a child and now can not be reached for any comment.
I think there in lies your responsible party in this. and she knows it thats why she is not commenting.
if she would have helped and if things went a little different her grand child would be alive today,
you are to take care of your family weather its right wrong or indifferent you always back family,
if she cant stand the daughter fine,send her out but allow the grand child a place to live.
we have no idea the situation.

I am only commenting because I was placed in her position before.
I have been homeless living with my child.only to have family turn me away,
that point in my life living on the streets in seedy motels with my family was a time where I wanted to seriously take my own life. only reason why I didnt was because my daughter would have watched and I was not going to put her through that,if I had a moment alone I would have killed myself .

People thrown in hers and my situation do not think rationally, I didnt think to ask friends for help,I figured everyone would say no because my own family did.
it wasnt untill they offered help is when I took it.
if you have never been outcasted and been placed in this situation then no way in hell can you cast judgment and no way can you say “she was feeling sorry for herself”

in a situation like this I really see she was thinking of the child but then after the fact she was in a panic.
I mean she just killed her kid.
no one here knows how that feels, you guys live on the streets and have no one give a shit and then you loose a child for whatever reason and come back and tell me how that feels.

I guess not having an ounce of compassion or understanding is what makes a “T-man” isnt it.

some of you should really be ashamed of yourselves.
what the fuck is happening to humanity?

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Here we go again. Its amazing how every such tragic incident is little more than incentive for some of us to feel a little holier at someone else’s expense.

I do agree that a lot of people have no business becoming parents though.[/quote]

Obviously, she’s a witch and she should be burned…

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YOu’re wrong. The emotions the good t-nationers have that make them want to torture her make them feel more noble at the expense of the woman in question. Ergo, they are automatically superior.

Not condoning what happened, but sometimes…there are tragedies in life.
A mother throwing her daughter and grandchild out on the streets…less shocking but also tragic.

[quote]Thantophobia wrote:
So everyone here thinks that whatever emotions she had that led her to kill her child are repugnant, but that the emotions that they have to torture her are valid?
[/quote]

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I have a simple question. You people repulsed by this story, do you support abortion?

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I don’t think too many people support abortion in the 13th trimester. Your question is irrelevant by a factor of 4.

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Murder either way you cut it.

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She should either be buried to her neck and stoned, or drawn and quartered, or dealt with in some other medieval way.

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Considering your age, social status and financial condition, I just KNEW you would bring your political motivations into a thread like this, Deebel.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Then you dump her in an unmarked grave with the other scumbags killed that day and burn them.[/quote]

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this is proof that there is in fact evil in this world

an 3evil that must be purged with an even more sickening form of good

this woman will no doubt feel wrath

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[quote]snipeout wrote:
Murder either way you cut it.[/quote]

It’s murder either way YOU cut it - let’s examine your last two posts. Your first assertion (in an implied fashion) was that this murder is morally equivalent to abortion. I pointed out a difference between this murder and abortion, and you respond by saying that they’re both murder - another way of asserting that they are morally equivalent. As Michael Palin would say, that’s not an argument, it’s merely contradiction. If I were to say “Tomatoes and carrots are both vegetables” and you were to point out that tomatoes have internal seeds, would it make any sense for me to respond by saying “They’re both vegetables any way you slice it”?

The point here is that you (and many other people on both sides of the abortion argument) beg the question. The issue in contention is whether or not abortion is wrong, and your argument is that abortion is wrong because it is murder. Murder is defined as the WRONGful killing of another human being. There is no debate that abortion involves killing, and no substantial argument over whether or not a fetus is a member of the human species. This leaves only one more possible assertion in your sentence - that abortion is wrong. That’s not a premise for an argument - your argument consists of nothing more than a conclusion.

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[quote]Thantophobia wrote:
snipeout wrote:
Murder either way you cut it.

It’s murder either way YOU cut it - let’s examine your last two posts. Your first assertion (in an implied fashion) was that this murder is morally equivalent to abortion. I pointed out a difference between this murder and abortion, and you respond by saying that they’re both murder - another way of asserting that they are morally equivalent. As Michael Palin would say, that’s not an argument, it’s merely contradiction. If I were to say “Tomatoes and carrots are both vegetables” and you were to point out that tomatoes have internal seeds, would it make any sense for me to respond by saying “They’re both vegetables any way you slice it”?

The point here is that you (and many other people on both sides of the abortion argument) beg the question. The issue in contention is whether or not abortion is wrong, and your argument is that abortion is wrong because it is murder. Murder is defined as the WRONGful killing of another human being. There is no debate that abortion involves killing, and no substantial argument over whether or not a fetus is a member of the human species. This leaves only one more possible assertion in your sentence - that abortion is wrong. That’s not a premise for an argument - your argument consists of nothing more than a conclusion. [/quote]

wat?

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[quote]snipeout wrote:
Murder either way you cut it.[/quote]

Not everyone thinks that way. IMO abortion isn’t murder.

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[quote]Thantophobia wrote:
snipeout wrote:
Murder either way you cut it.

It’s murder either way YOU cut it - let’s examine your last two posts. Your first assertion (in an implied fashion) was that this murder is morally equivalent to abortion. I pointed out a difference between this murder and abortion, and you respond by saying that they’re both murder - another way of asserting that they are morally equivalent. As Michael Palin would say, that’s not an argument, it’s merely contradiction. If I were to say “Tomatoes and carrots are both vegetables” and you were to point out that tomatoes have internal seeds, would it make any sense for me to respond by saying “They’re both vegetables any way you slice it”?

The point here is that you (and many other people on both sides of the abortion argument) beg the question. The issue in contention is whether or not abortion is wrong, and your argument is that abortion is wrong because it is murder. Murder is defined as the WRONGful killing of another human being. There is no debate that abortion involves killing, and no substantial argument over whether or not a fetus is a member of the human species. This leaves only one more possible assertion in your sentence - that abortion is wrong. That’s not a premise for an argument - your argument consists of nothing more than a conclusion. [/quote]

I think that was far too many words for him to process. You lost him at ‘its’. People who have the whole ‘abortion is murder’ idea in thier heads are no different than the religious fanatics who have no problem telling you that you will burn in hell because you dont go along with THIER set of beliefs. Hense you are wrong in everything you say.

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[quote]Buff HardBack wrote:
Thantophobia wrote:
snipeout wrote:
Murder either way you cut it.

I think that was far too many words for him to process. You lost him at ‘its’. People who have the whole ‘abortion is murder’ idea in thier heads are no different than the religious fanatics who have no problem telling you that you will burn in hell because you dont go along with THIER set of beliefs. Hense you are wrong in everything you say.[/quote]

Sweeping generalizations about people who make sweeping generalizations… cool.