[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
You know, it really gets annoying with people nowadays complaining about stuff like this ^^. What does it matter if a cow is pastured or fed grains? if the cows couldn’t tolerate it, it would certainly show.
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It does show. The cows quickly develop an intolerance to the grain and soy diet and develop severe bowl diseases. They are preventatively fed antibiotics to counteract this problem. They in turn give ample breeding ground to anti biotic resistant ecoli. Does none of this sound like a problem to you?
My family were ranchers for four generations (my grandfather still is). When I talk to him about feedlots, his response is “it’s just shameful”. Farmers know that the meat system in this country is unhealthy, inhumane and big trouble waiting to happen (animal born disease). [/quote]
So e-coli comes from soy and not walking around in feces. So if cows were grass fed only, they wouldn’t get any diseases?
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
You know, it really gets annoying with people nowadays complaining about stuff like this ^^. What does it matter if a cow is pastured or fed grains? if the cows couldn’t tolerate it, it would certainly show.
Cows live, eat, die, and then we eat them. Just like humans(minus the eating part.) Same thing with people who argue about High Fructose corn syrup. It ONLY matters what the macro breakdown is.
If you eat corn, its sugar.
Bread? It’s sugar.
Oats? Its sugar.
Fruit? Is sugar.
You can argue the GI of all of these if you want, but in the end, its fast carbs. And you aren’t going to grow tits from a lil’ soy here and there.[/quote]
Sorry I’m not sure I understand the point you’re trying to make. Are you saying that it doesn’t matter what the cows are fed, because their macro content is still the same? Or are you saying that a persons source of calories doesn’t matter, just the overall macro breakdown? Or both…[/quote]
My point is that soy/grain fed cows don’t produce any less quality beef.
I fed a cow a pumpkin the other day at a nearby farm. OH SHIT NOW THE COWS ARE GOING TO GET PUMPKIN VIRUSES!
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
You know, it really gets annoying with people nowadays complaining about stuff like this ^^. What does it matter if a cow is pastured or fed grains? if the cows couldn’t tolerate it, it would certainly show.
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It does show. The cows quickly develop an intolerance to the grain and soy diet and develop severe bowl diseases. They are preventatively fed antibiotics to counteract this problem. They in turn give ample breeding ground to anti biotic resistant ecoli. Does none of this sound like a problem to you?
My family were ranchers for four generations (my grandfather still is). When I talk to him about feedlots, his response is “it’s just shameful”. Farmers know that the meat system in this country is unhealthy, inhumane and big trouble waiting to happen (animal born disease). [/quote]
So e-coli comes from soy and not walking around in feces. So if cows were grass fed only, they wouldn’t get any diseases?[/quote]
Not what I said.
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The digestive tracts of cattle nurture some of the most virulent strains of E. coli, which can later find their way into beef and also into other foods that come in contact with infected manure. Since the Second World War, cattle diets have shifted from hay to starchy grain feed. And the Cornell team, including USDA microbiologist James Russell, postdoc Francisco Diez-Gonzalez, graduate student Todd Callaway, and undergraduate Menas Kizoulis, now shows that the digestive systems of cows fed hay generate less than 1% of the E. coli found in the feces of grain-fed animals. What’s more, bacteria from the grain-fed animals were much more resistant to acid, making them more likely to survive in the human stomach and cause infection. [/quote]
From an article published in the Journal Science in 1998. Grass fed cattle produce less than 1% of the e. coli produced by grain fed cattle. Feed lot (grain fed) cattle live in their own filth. You do the math