Most Intimidating Athlete

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Sometimes I don’t get why people debate. Some things are not debatable:

  1. Mike Tyson was/is intimdiating.
  2. Jessica Beil is hot.
  3. Tiger Woods is an athlete.

Fuck, if someone says that 2+2 = 5 are you guys going to argue with him, too?

I love a good argument, but there are some things reasonable minds cannot disagree on. Items 1-3 fall into that category.[/quote]

You’re basically saying that items one through three are not assertions, but absolute truth. That in itself is an assertion, and all assertions can be argued.

I would argue that your assertion that those three assertions are not assertions is merely an assertion, and that I assert that Mike Tyson was not intimidating, because even a fighter with the smallest amount of training in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu would have easily beaten Tyson by taking him to the ground, establishing his position, and landing a submission.

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give me a fucking break with this. if we’re talking about competiton. what are the stakes ? in competition tiger will ass-rape anyone here and anyone in the world. put up your house against tiger’s with your handicap and you will shit bricks when he steps onto the tee and starts eating your family’s dinners for the next year.

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[quote]HardcoreHorn wrote:
… I assert that Mike Tyson was not intimidating, because even a fighter with the smallest amount of training in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu would have easily beaten Tyson by taking him to the ground, establishing his position, and landing a submission.
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Bullshit is getting pretty deep.

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
well but:

  1. Tiger Woods is intimidating

seems highly questionable to me

Not to a golfer. Hence, why there is no room for debate on the point.

Schwarzenegger in his prime could not have intimidated/mind-fucked me. Why? Because I would never have competed against him. Intimidation is relative to the intimidator’s activity.

'Nuff said.[/quote]

Are you kidding?

There are a large number of athletes that are intimidating when encountered outside of their discipline. Fedor is intimidating in the ring. He is intimidating training. He is intimidating in the super market. The same goes for Karelin and a number of others. They are physical specimens whose capabilities transcend their sport. Tiger Woods is intimidating if you give a shit about the game my grand parents play. Look ive seen some outstanding pool players. Improbably good skills and I wouldnt be stupid enough to put my money on the table against them. But thats just it. I dont have to put my money down and as soon as I step outside that narrow spectrum within which they are skilled they become normal people.

Tiger Woods is a just another rich kid outside of golf. Aleksander Karelin and Fedor outside the ring are still scary dudes.

I mean shit. The top chess masters are intimidating to their opponents. Is that really what the OP was after? I find that hard to believe.

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[quote] I assert that Mike Tyson was not intimidating, because even a fighter with the smallest amount of training in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu would have easily beaten Tyson by taking him to the ground, establishing his position, and landing a submission.
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anyone with ANY BJJ traing taking tyson to the ground? that was a joke right? watch some video clips of him. you came within his realm the closer you got to him. and one hit with the little gloves that BJJ uses and he would literally kill or permananly handicap the competitor. Even the best BJJ would have one hell of a fight trying to stop tyson, or any other good boxer for that matter.

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[quote]adubswils wrote:
Fedor is intimidating in the ring. He is intimidating training. He is intimidating in the super market. The same goes for Karelin and a number of others. [/quote]

Have you met these dudes in a supermarket? Maybe, just maybe these dudes would intimidate you but not others. Or maybe Tiger Woods may intimidate me but not you. Maybe it depends on the person. Did ya ever fucking think about that? So to say that Woods is not intimidating to anyone is just fuckin stupid. Or maybe the people that Woods intimidates are just fucking pussies because he doesn’t play in a tough sport like your boys right?

Fuck that

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[quote]trailrash wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Fedor is intimidating in the ring. He is intimidating training. He is intimidating in the super market. The same goes for Karelin and a number of others.

Have you met these dudes in a supermarket? Maybe, just maybe these dudes would intimidate you but not others. Or maybe Tiger Woods may intimidate me but not you. Maybe it depends on the person. Did ya ever fucking think about that? So to say that Woods is not intimidating to anyone is just fuckin stupid. Or maybe the people that Woods intimidates are just fucking pussies because he doesn’t play in a tough sport like your boys right?

Fuck that

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Presumably you didnt read what I wrote. Here is the cliffs notes version: You do not have to be emotionally invested in the sport Karelin or Fedor participate in to be intimidated by them.

And of course, I think that calling Woods an athlete poisons the meaning of the term. If we are going to consider folks like this (and even worse folks from poker) then I nominate Kasparov as most intimidating “athlete”.

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derek boogaard would be another one.

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[quote]adubswils wrote:
trailrash wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Fedor is intimidating in the ring. He is intimidating training. He is intimidating in the super market. The same goes for Karelin and a number of others.

Have you met these dudes in a supermarket? Maybe, just maybe these dudes would intimidate you but not others. Or maybe Tiger Woods may intimidate me but not you. Maybe it depends on the person. Did ya ever fucking think about that? So to say that Woods is not intimidating to anyone is just fuckin stupid. Or maybe the people that Woods intimidates are just fucking pussies because he doesn’t play in a tough sport like your boys right?

Fuck that

Presumably you didnt read what I wrote. Here is the cliffs notes version: You do not have to be emotionally invested in the sport Karelin or Fedor participate in to be intimidated by them.

And of course, I think that calling Woods an athlete poisons the meaning of the term. If we are going to consider folks like this (and even worse folks from poker) then I nominate “Bobby” Fischer as most intimidating “athlete”. [/quote]

oh snap baby ! someone better tell espn, fox, abc, nbc, cbs, cbc, bbc, cnn, nesn, the a.p.,reuters,upi, new york times, la times post and daily news, boston globe, wall st.journal, sports illustrated, forbes, time, newsweek, playboy, esquire, the gaurdian,the daily planet, the daily bugle and every other newspaper, magazine, webpage, tv and radio station on this whole fucking planet that they’ve been mistaken and tiger woods actually isn’t an athlete.

congratulations. you’ve brought new meaning to the word ignorant. who the fuck are you ? daniel carver?

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Tiger Woods obviously is intimidating to those he is facing in a golf tournament, but he isn’t intimidating in a “Wow, I wouldn’t want to piss that guy off” kind of way.

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[quote]HardcoreHorn wrote:
Rickson Gracie is more intimidating than even Fedor. Fedor wouldn’t stand a chance.[/quote]

Grappling yes. MMA no.

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[quote]HardcoreHorn wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Sometimes I don’t get why people debate. Some things are not debatable:

  1. Mike Tyson was/is intimdiating.
  2. Jessica Beil is hot.
  3. Tiger Woods is an athlete.

Fuck, if someone says that 2+2 = 5 are you guys going to argue with him, too?

I love a good argument, but there are some things reasonable minds cannot disagree on. Items 1-3 fall into that category.

You’re basically saying that items one through three are not assertions, but absolute truth. That in itself is an assertion, and all assertions can be argued.

I would argue that your assertion that those three assertions are not assertions is merely an assertion, and that I assert that Mike Tyson was not intimidating, because even a fighter with the smallest amount of training in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu would have easily beaten Tyson by taking him to the ground, establishing his position, and landing a submission.
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I can’t believe someone actually wrote that on this site and more people didn’t instantly call bullshit and laugh until this poster…quit posting.

I am SO sick of hearing about BJJ supermen that can somehow take down even the best heavyweight boxers in the world in their prime. It doesn’t get dumber than that.

We all know people like to have pride in what they do, but the ridiculous diarrhea-like bullshit flowing the mouths of some of these guys has taken it too far. One straight on hit from someone with the strength and force of Tyson is pretty much going to end it for most humans on the planet, regardless of how many BJJ classes you’ve been to at the “Y”.

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Two things I would like to add to this pissing contest:

1: To the guy who said a bjj athlete can take down Tyson, remember, the guy bit an ear off. Do you really want to get close to that?

2: Tiger Woods is intimidating. He carries and entire bag of golf clubs FFS. Do you have any idea how hard he can hit a guy with a 3 iron?

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[quote]trailrash wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Fedor is intimidating in the ring. He is intimidating training. He is intimidating in the super market. The same goes for Karelin and a number of others.
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Little old ladies would probably think they were just big cuddly bears in the grocery store.

Woods might scare the shit out of the same little old ladies because he is black. (kind of)

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[quote]HardcoreHorn wrote:

…and that I assert that Mike Tyson was not intimidating, because even a fighter with the smallest amount of training in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu would have easily beaten Tyson by taking him to the ground, establishing his position, and landing a submission.
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WTF? This is the biggest piece of bullshit I’ve ever read. Counterpointing this is unecessary because anyone with half a brain is laughing at you after reading this.

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[quote]adubswils wrote:
trailrash wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Fedor is intimidating in the ring. He is intimidating training. He is intimidating in the super market. The same goes for Karelin and a number of others.

Have you met these dudes in a supermarket? Maybe, just maybe these dudes would intimidate you but not others. Or maybe Tiger Woods may intimidate me but not you. Maybe it depends on the person. Did ya ever fucking think about that? So to say that Woods is not intimidating to anyone is just fuckin stupid. Or maybe the people that Woods intimidates are just fucking pussies because he doesn’t play in a tough sport like your boys right?

Fuck that

Presumably you didnt read what I wrote. Here is the cliffs notes version: You do not have to be emotionally invested in the sport Karelin or Fedor participate in to be intimidated by them.

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And obviously you didn’t read what I wrote. How the hell would you know that Karelin or Fedor would intimidate someone besides yourself? Just because they are big, scary and intimidating to you does not mean they will be to someone else. You only assume this because of your ideas about them but you really have no clue how anyone else would react to them and to say you do know this is just a stupid statement.

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[quote]swivel wrote:
adubswils wrote:
trailrash wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Fedor is intimidating in the ring. He is intimidating training. He is intimidating in the super market. The same goes for Karelin and a number of others.

Have you met these dudes in a supermarket? Maybe, just maybe these dudes would intimidate you but not others. Or maybe Tiger Woods may intimidate me but not you. Maybe it depends on the person. Did ya ever fucking think about that? So to say that Woods is not intimidating to anyone is just fuckin stupid. Or maybe the people that Woods intimidates are just fucking pussies because he doesn’t play in a tough sport like your boys right?

Fuck that

Presumably you didnt read what I wrote. Here is the cliffs notes version: You do not have to be emotionally invested in the sport Karelin or Fedor participate in to be intimidated by them.

And of course, I think that calling Woods an athlete poisons the meaning of the term. If we are going to consider folks like this (and even worse folks from poker) then I nominate “Bobby” Fischer as most intimidating “athlete”.

oh snap baby ! someone better tell espn, fox, abc, nbc, cbs, cbc, bbc, cnn, nesn, the a.p.,reuters,upi, new york times, la times post and daily news, boston globe, wall st.journal, sports illustrated, forbes, time, newsweek, playboy, esquire, the gaurdian,the daily planet, the daily bugle and every other newspaper, magazine, webpage, tv and radio station on this whole fucking planet that they’ve been mistaken and tiger woods actually isn’t an athlete.

congratulations. you’ve brought new meaning to the word ignorant. who the fuck are you ? daniel carver?[/quote]

Daniel Carver. nice. haha…

Looks like someone has a their work cut out for them delivering this message to all of these people. I can hear him now trying to justify his statement to these people after they ask him what he’s been smokin…

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[quote]trailrash wrote:
And obviously you didn’t read what I wrote. How the hell would you know that Karelin or Fedor would intimidate someone besides yourself? Just because they are big, scary and intimidating to you does not mean they will be to someone else. You only assume this because of your ideas about them but you really have no clue how anyone else would react to them and to say you do know this is just a stupid statement.

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Well I’m not really intimidated by anyone regardless of how big they are, how powerful they are, how much money they have (especially this one), or the likes. I may admire certain aspects that someone has but I sure as hell am not intimidated by anyone.

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ok. Her’s a new one…Michael Johnson. Throughout most of his career he dominated his sprinting events. Everyone not him, not to see if he would win, but by how much.

Anyone who says his competitors did not feel intimidated sitting in the blocks on the same track as him is wrong.

He must of been incredibly intimidating, cos you knew you were running for 2nd place

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[quote]adubswils wrote:
trailrash wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Fedor is intimidating in the ring. He is intimidating training. He is intimidating in the super market. The same goes for Karelin and a number of others.

Have you met these dudes in a supermarket? Maybe, just maybe these dudes would intimidate you but not others. Or maybe Tiger Woods may intimidate me but not you. Maybe it depends on the person. Did ya ever fucking think about that? So to say that Woods is not intimidating to anyone is just fuckin stupid. Or maybe the people that Woods intimidates are just fucking pussies because he doesn’t play in a tough sport like your boys right?

Fuck that

Presumably you didnt read what I wrote. Here is the cliffs notes version: You do not have to be emotionally invested in the sport Karelin or Fedor participate in to be intimidated by them.

And of course, I think that calling Woods an athlete poisons the meaning of the term. If we are going to consider folks like this (and even worse folks from poker) then I nominate Kasparov as most intimidating “athlete”. [/quote]

To say Tiger Woods is not an athlete is one of the stupidest things i’ve ever heard! Have you seen the size of him…his physique is v impressive. And if you think hitting a golf ball the distance he does is not athletic, then your seriously ignorant!