[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why don’t we ever hear, “Steroid user saves children’s clinic from brush fire!”
Or
“Man uses steroids, builds enough muscle to safely carry his dying great-aunt to the hospital in his arms since they had no car!!!”
or
“Man injects…then creates world peace!!!”
??[/quote]
You dont hear that now even without the steroids. The news is about death, dying and bullshit.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why don’t we ever hear, “Steroid user saves children’s clinic from brush fire!”
Or
“Man uses steroids, builds enough muscle to safely carry his dying great-aunt to the hospital in his arms since they had no car!!!”
or
“Man injects…then creates world peace!!!”
??[/quote]
You dont hear that now even without the steroids. The news is about death, dying and bullshit. [/quote]
That’s why I quit watching the news altogether aside from what I may scan on the internet.
But that still doesn’t change that this is a tad over the top…and I use TAD lightly.
I mean, imagine the clueless masses who are actually running around thinking that testosterone itself (what we all have in us) is making grown men turn into murderers, race warriors, and wife beaters.
Stuff like this effects all of us if you hit the gym on a regular basis.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why don’t we ever hear, “Steroid user saves children’s clinic from brush fire!”
Or
“Man uses steroids, builds enough muscle to safely carry his dying great-aunt to the hospital in his arms since they had no car!!!”
or
“Man injects…then creates world peace!!!”
??[/quote]
You dont hear that now even without the steroids. The news is about death, dying and bullshit. [/quote]
That’s why I quit watching the news altogether aside from what I may scan on the internet.
But that still doesn’t change that this is a tad over the top…and I use TAD lightly.
I mean, imagine the clueless masses who are actually running around thinking that testosterone itself (what we all have in us) is making grown men turn into murderers, race warriors, and wife beaters.
Stuff like this effects all of us if you hit the gym on a regular basis.[/quote]
I stop watching the news, I lift at home. Are we going to live out our lifes struggling with the deballing of men or is the world going to end and we will be the survivors. Dont know, I stay at home keep to my own and wait and see.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why don’t we ever hear, “Steroid user saves children’s clinic from brush fire!”
Or
“Man uses steroids, builds enough muscle to safely carry his dying great-aunt to the hospital in his arms since they had no car!!!”
or
“Man injects…then creates world peace!!!”
??[/quote]
The interesting part about that is how many firemen/police officers are well built dudes, or using steroids, and obviously doing their jobs to server their communities. Obviously they can’t admit to use publicly or they will lose said jobs… and therein lies the catch 22. To quit the demonization of steroids we need to be able to show the plethora of well adjusted, productive members of society using them to further their body and general health; but we can’t do that because of their perception.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why don’t we ever hear, “Steroid user saves children’s clinic from brush fire!”
Or
“Man uses steroids, builds enough muscle to safely carry his dying great-aunt to the hospital in his arms since they had no car!!!”
or
“Man injects…then creates world peace!!!”
??[/quote]
I remember hearing something about Frank McGrath during his car crash being protected by the heavy amount of muscle covering his body. Maybe I’m mis-remembering and I’m not accusing Frank of using either way I don’t care but that seems like a benefit that not many would ever consider.
I saw a “before” photo of this guy when he was working in the bodybuilding shop he owned and he was much bigger than he is currently.
Probably because he accidentally took some dianablack which caused him to lose all of his white muscle mass (expanded sarcoplasmic reticula)
In other news…
http://gawker.com/5602520/meet-the-bodybuilding-neo+nazi-porn-star-who-embalms-dead-people-for-a-living
[quote]Mackk wrote:
I remember hearing something about Frank McGrath during his car crash being protected by the heavy amount of muscle covering his body. Maybe I’m mis-remembering and I’m not accusing Frank of using either way I don’t care but that seems like a benefit that not many would ever consider.[/quote]
In another forum, a fellow bodybuilder was inside his brick garage when it blew up. Doctors claimed his excessive amount of muscle was the only thing that kept him alive…
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Yes, they just had to mention/blame “steroids”…
US couple held as serial killing suspects in Panama paradise
For American expatriates, Bocas del Toro seemed the ideal retreat: an archipelago of white sand beaches, coconut palms and guesthouses off Panama’s Caribbean coast. It was relaxed, friendly and sunny. Then people started to disappear.
…
The man known to neighbours as “Wild Bill” has confessed to murdering seven people, said Angel Calderon, a prosecuting attorney. “He has told us how many people he killed, why he killed them, how he killed them and where he buried them.”
…
The tale has shades of The Talented Mr Ripley, the novel, and later film starring Matt Damon about an expatriate killer, except that Holbert reportedly started out with bodybuilding, steroids, white supremacy and a fascination with Adolf Hitler.
…
He reportedly started bodybuilding and taking steroids, which made him more aggressive, and developed a fascination with the TV gangster Tony Soprano. He also acquired white supremacy tattoos and sold memorabilia with swastikas.
Full Story:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/01/panama-american-serial-killings-suspects[/quote]
Sounds like a textbook case of the dreaded creatine rage. Especially lethal when combined with an excessive intake of ghey protein.
slight hijack…
why is it that half the time you american/foreign T-Nationers post a newspaper article, its an english one? are they superior to us sources? im curious
hijack/
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I blame moving to the tropics.
Look what happened to Bertil Fox!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1012887/1/index.htm[/quote]
Had no idea about Bertil Fox, but MY GOD is the writer of this article biased against bodybuilding or what???
Can what pro bodybuilders do honestly be judged as more extreme or ridiculous than many other sports? What would this William Nack douchebag (or is it really William HACK?) say about pro cyclists, for example, who take way more drugs than pro bodybuilders just so they can pedal a child’s toy up and down a bunch of hills in France, and yet not they’re not even able to pass some dudes riding Vespas in front of them?
Or what about NASCAR? Would he call them a bunch of carbon-emitting idiots who needlessly endanger their lives by hurtling around a perfectly oval track at 200 mph?
How about MMA? I suppose Mr. Hack has a high regard for people who train for hours a day and years on end just so they can beat the crap out another guy whom they have no quarrel with, and who they even hug at the end?
Or how about baseball? Grown men spending their adult lives playing the same “hit the ball with a stick” game they did when they were in the third grade?
Or, let’s get away from sports and question the wisdom of a man masquerading as a woman, while wearing freakishly outlandish costumes, and recording one vapid, over-processed pop song after another after another.
I’m not knocking ANY of these pursuits. I actually enjoy watching a couple of them… But I can’t believe this fool is employed as a sports writer! He seems to have so much ANGER toward bodybuilding - I have to ask whether or not he himself may be on the steroidz. And the editors over at S.I. must be on roofies to not have caught this pre-publication.
[quote]BobParr wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I blame moving to the tropics.
Look what happened to Bertil Fox!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1012887/1/index.htm[/quote]
Had no idea about Bertil Fox, but MY GOD is the writer of this article biased against bodybuilding or what???
Can what pro bodybuilders do honestly be judged as more extreme or ridiculous than many other sports? What would this William Nack douchebag (or is it really William HACK?) say about pro cyclists, for example, who take way more drugs than pro bodybuilders just so they can pedal a child’s toy up and down a bunch of hills in France, and yet not they’re not even able to pass some dudes riding Vespas in front of them?
Or what about NASCAR? Would he call them a bunch of carbon-emitting idiots who needlessly endanger their lives by hurtling around a perfectly oval track at 200 mph?
How about MMA? I suppose Mr. Hack has a high regard for people who train for hours a day and years on end just so they can beat the crap out another guy whom they have no quarrel with, and who they even hug at the end?
Or how about baseball? Grown men spending their adult lives playing the same “hit the ball with a stick” game they did when they were in the third grade?
Or, let’s get away from sports and question the wisdom of a man masquerading as a woman, while wearing freakishly outlandish costumes, and recording one vapid, over-processed pop song after another after another.
I’m not knocking ANY of these pursuits. I actually enjoy watching a couple of them… But I can’t believe this fool is employed as a sports writer! He seems to have so much ANGER toward bodybuilding - I have to ask whether or not he himself may be on the steroidz. And the editors over at S.I. must be on roofies to not have caught this pre-publication.[/quote]
Dude, we have an author on this very site who is exactly the same or worse and some of these guys damn near praise him.
[quote]BobParr wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I blame moving to the tropics.
Look what happened to Bertil Fox!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1012887/1/index.htm[/quote]
Had no idea about Bertil Fox, but MY GOD is the writer of this article biased against bodybuilding or what???
…
I’m not knocking ANY of these pursuits. I actually enjoy watching a couple of them… But I can’t believe this fool is employed as a sports writer! He seems to have so much ANGER toward bodybuilding - I have to ask whether or not he himself may be on the steroidz. And the editors over at S.I. must be on roofies to not have caught this pre-publication.[/quote]
S.I. and ESPN are the WORST peddlers of steroid nonsense in all media. You can almost forgive other news outlets for sheer ignorance. Hell, they can’t even get politics and local school board meeting news right.
But fucking SI and ESPN have an outright CRUSADE against bodybuilders and the thought of ‘performance enhancing drugs’. Baseball is the most ridiculous of them all. Sports media isn’t content with just reporting games/results, they have to ‘make’ news replete with heroes and villians.
[quote]BobParr wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I blame moving to the tropics.
Look what happened to Bertil Fox!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1012887/1/index.htm[/quote]
Had no idea about Bertil Fox, but MY GOD is the writer of this article biased against bodybuilding or what???
Can what pro bodybuilders do honestly be judged as more extreme or ridiculous than many other sports? What would this William Nack douchebag (or is it really William HACK?) say about pro cyclists, for example, who take way more drugs than pro bodybuilders just so they can pedal a child’s toy up and down a bunch of hills in France, and yet not they’re not even able to pass some dudes riding Vespas in front of them?[/quote]
The bolded part was where I stopped taking you seriously.
And yes, it can be judged as more extreme considering it’s an aesthetic’s contest.
Steroids is the new porn.
I remember back when I was a kid, everybody blamed porn when some guy chopped people up. Ted Bundy killed all those women because of porn, John Gacey killed all those boys because of gay porn, yadda yadda yadda.
The porn angle doesn’t terrify and excite people like it used to so now it’s steroids. I can just hear the fat ass housewives talking about it just before they go change their panties. “Oooooh Cheryl, they say that man chopped up all of those people because of steroids! His muscles got so big that he freaked out and just started killing people!” gush
The news is such bullshit anymore, it’s all shock factor for the stupid masses.
It’s a story about some dudes (and women) who did some really bad shit.
They happen to be bodybuilders and steroid users. This unfortunately paints the entire sport in a bad light.
[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
Steroids is the new porn.
I remember back when I was a kid, everybody blamed porn when some guy chopped people up. Ted Bundy killed all those women because of porn, John Gacey killed all those boys because of gay porn, yadda yadda yadda.
The porn angle doesn’t terrify and excite people like it used to so now it’s steroids. I can just hear the fat ass housewives talking about it just before they go change their panties. “Oooooh Cheryl, they say that man chopped up all of those people because of steroids! His muscles got so big that he freaked out and just started killing people!” gush
The news is such bullshit anymore, it’s all shock factor for the stupid masses.[/quote]
Well, the real problem is those masses are not decreasing in number. There is nothing more dangerous than being outnumbered by dumb people. You can’t win.
“The performers at the highest levels are walking pharmacies, willing guinea pigs who ingest anything that promises to make them large. They are artisans commissioned by their own fragile egos to sculpt fortresses to protect them. Instead of working in marble, as Michelangelo did in chiseling his David, they use far more perishable stuff, engorging and shaping their sinew with pills and fluids, including dangerous growth hormones that enlarge everything from heart to bone to muscle; equally dangerous diuretics, which strip the body of water and help define the shape of muscles; insulin, which metabolizes carbohydrates into glucose, which in turn builds muscle mass; and a cornucopia of other drugs to ease the way: thyroid stimulants, amphetamines, appetite suppressants, painkillers, cocaine, marijuana, tranquilizers, sleeping pills and antidepressants. Underlying all of this, of course, are the monstrous ingestions of anabolic steroids and testosterone to promote muscle growth.”
Man, what a biased piece of shit this article is. And the author is obviously a biochem expert, since “insulin metabolizes carbs into glucose” Really? - shit, I’ve been ALL wrong about the Glycolysis then…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
Steroids is the new porn.
I remember back when I was a kid, everybody blamed porn when some guy chopped people up. Ted Bundy killed all those women because of porn, John Gacey killed all those boys because of gay porn, yadda yadda yadda.
The porn angle doesn’t terrify and excite people like it used to so now it’s steroids. I can just hear the fat ass housewives talking about it just before they go change their panties. “Oooooh Cheryl, they say that man chopped up all of those people because of steroids! His muscles got so big that he freaked out and just started killing people!” gush
The news is such bullshit anymore, it’s all shock factor for the stupid masses.[/quote]
Well, the real problem is those masses are not decreasing in number. There is nothing more dangerous than being outnumbered by dumb people. You can’t win.[/quote]
Sports writers haven’t done anything but make those numbers rise either.
They are just as guilty as regular news in fucking up people’s perceptions.
[quote]BobParr wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I blame moving to the tropics.
Look what happened to Bertil Fox!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1012887/1/index.htm[/quote]
Had no idea about Bertil Fox, but MY GOD is the writer of this article biased against bodybuilding or what???
Can what pro bodybuilders do honestly be judged as more extreme or ridiculous than many other sports? What would this William Nack douchebag (or is it really William HACK?) say about pro cyclists, for example, who take way more drugs than pro bodybuilders just so they can pedal a child’s toy up and down a bunch of hills in France, and yet not they’re not even able to pass some dudes riding Vespas in front of them?
Or what about NASCAR? Would he call them a bunch of carbon-emitting idiots who needlessly endanger their lives by hurtling around a perfectly oval track at 200 mph?
How about MMA? I suppose Mr. Hack has a high regard for people who train for hours a day and years on end just so they can beat the crap out another guy whom they have no quarrel with, and who they even hug at the end?
Or how about baseball? Grown men spending their adult lives playing the same “hit the ball with a stick” game they did when they were in the third grade?
Or, let’s get away from sports and question the wisdom of a man masquerading as a woman, while wearing freakishly outlandish costumes, and recording one vapid, over-processed pop song after another after another.
I’m not knocking ANY of these pursuits. I actually enjoy watching a couple of them… But I can’t believe this fool is employed as a sports writer! He seems to have so much ANGER toward bodybuilding - I have to ask whether or not he himself may be on the steroidz. And the editors over at S.I. must be on roofies to not have caught this pre-publication.[/quote]
That’s pretty spot-on there, Bob-oh.
regarding the article, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, Typical, irresponsible, ignorant, bullshit journalism. News in general is such bullshit, I’ve made better, more accurate news segments in my fucking telecomm class in high school. Especially sports writers. Sports writers are the half-dedicated putzes who spent their entire high school and college football career as a third string punter, never seeing the field, never getting picked up in the pros, and thus, are fill with unreal amounts of spite towards anyone who is better than them…which is everyone.