In the day of the internet you can NOT search? A country to the east of NZ huge tall, skinny clue ; )
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Sorry pittbull but try to do some leg work yourself and then you will even learn something along the way. I am not trying to be a dick or anything but when you find the information on your own the point will be taken without being biased. At least that is my intent ; )
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Open your own eyes Mak and realize there is a country relatively close to you, they have banned abortion for over two decades ['89] and they seem to be doing just fine. Except the media would not tell everyone of s story that works. The only reason abortion would be allowed in this country, if the mother has a terminal reason AND there are two doctors who agree the child’s life needs to be snuffed out. In case you couldn’t tell, banning abortion has worked!! You are one who rants that banning abortions wouldn’t work and we need a solution, yet the ban has worked! You still want to insist there is no way? Please tell me how this can be the case?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
This is the argument we seem to inevitably devolve into, we spend pages upon pages discussing what it is to be human, and no realistic solutions are provided.
We can all agree that reducing abortion rates would be a good thing - now how do we do it? Is there a better way than education and access to contraception?[/quote]
Let me guess, we need to spend a couple billion a year to find that one 12 year old who hasn’t heard of contraception. “Education.” Perhaps you mean mailing off a supply of rubbers to our children monthly, with instructions on alternative sex such as dry-humping.
You’re of the type who broke our moral culture in the first place. You’ve no real voice in this topic. You and the ephrems of the west have failed. You destroyed the family. You destroyed our demographic future. You destoyed communities of poor, and of the recently liberated. You destroyed prudence. You destroyed self-control. You destroyed public expectations and valuable social tools such as shame. Yet, you still think you have anything of any value to add? You’ve nothing to offer but vile and despicable ‘solutions’ to problems created by your own leftist claptrap. No thanks. [/quote]
Your ability to shut off your mind to anything that might only step towards your end goal instead of doing it all at once is astounding.
If you honestly think there is “that one 12 year old who hasn’t heard of contraception” then you are more naive than I could have ever imagined. And knowledge does not even begin to address access.
You seem to think complaining loudly will achieve something. Yet you close your mind to anything that might go what could be a significant way to stopping people using abortion as birth control in such vast numbers. Where is your solution? Do you have anything that doesn’t involve burying your head in the sand and sweeping the underlying issue into the back alleys?
Let’s also not ignore the fact that you also seem to think banning abortion and doing two key things will in fact be cheaper than easy access to contraception and education on their use. These two things are of course:
- Encouraging back alley abortions, increasing the odds of something going wrong and hospitalization and costing the tax payer.
- People on welfare having children and costing the taxpayer.
There is an astounding inability for either side to do anything. Pro-lifers scream about human life, but STILL do nothing about finding a realistic solution. You can scream until your turn purple about murder and how abortion should be banned, but you have not provided any realistic solution. You want to sweep it under the rug and pretend it’s not happening.
Is it laziness?[/quote]
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What country is that ?[/quote]
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Sorry , I will probably be myself 
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