The trouble with the maples
And they’re quite convinced they’re right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
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That’s one person’s interpretation. The oaks told me a different story.
you’re right, Roger Aisles wasn’t held up as a genius because he got into an untapped market, nope, it’s because he created yet another conservative news channel like every other one at the time lol.
fuck, man, this place is upside down world.
the media, in general, is not one sided because there’s 1 real conservative news outlet on mainstream television? uh, ok.
really, upside down world.
Maybe at one point what you say was true, but the channel has now turned into the Trump fanboy channel.
And any one who really examines Trump will tell you he is not actually a conservative (but he is very good at selling himself as one).
lemme guess,
they wonder why the maples can’t be happy in their shade?
No, this Is still true on the national level. Maybe not on the local level, but definitely on the national level.
And I agree, Trump isn’t conservative nor liberal, he’s a TV personality that does shock value for the sake of his own brand, and nothing else.
It is not one-sided because there are media outlets on the left and right. This is the very definition of not being one-sided. From Fox’s ratings, it shows that liberal media does not have an excessive influence on the general audience.
What is wrong with you?
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Yup. Much easier to say “those flaws exist in people that aren’t me” than to acknowledge that we are all a very flawed species.
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No, what the fuck is wrong with you? Read what I wrote initially,.
ever try to watch some new tv shows lately? Or turn on the tv at all? It’s all social justice, inclusivity, toxic masculinity all the time.
or at least it seems like that, no? I don’t know how it is in middle America, but anything to do with the coastal regions, anything to do with mainstream tv is one big virtue signaling fuck fest of annoyance.
Just because there’s 1 big time news outlet that is super conservative, a few youtube personalities, and talk show radio crazies doesn’t make my point invalid. For the most part, mainstream media is totally liberal biased. This is known, and openly talked about. It is the reason Fox News was created, and why it has flourished.
This isn’t a radical observation, rather it is acknowledged on both sides , and yet when I come here and say it I get this stupid level of pushback. You and others in here try and nitpick my points to find something to disagree with… fuck me dude. is it even necessary?
Do you have options? Or have you lived with media freedom for too long to appreciate it?
Go to any country where the State owns the media. For the sake of simplicity, let’s say there’s one State owned news outlet. All liberal media is suppressed through various means. You can have 50 independent liberal news outlets with 1 percent of total market share all screaming their heads off about the establishment. The general audience relies on one news outlet for their information.
Is this one-sided?
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Don’t change the story. I responded to your entire post. You picked one sentence from my response. Now you’re trying to build a strawman around it. Exactly like what zep would do.
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What does any of this have to do with my initial post to Skys? jesussss fucking chrisssst.
for most people turning on the tv it’s a journey through progressive programming right now. just look at the slate of late night talk show hosts and their politics… we’re far removed from the days of Carson.
Does that mean there isn’t an option in Fox? Obviously, duh but you’d have to specifically go to that 1 fucking channel, so like I said It can seem that all of mainstream media is liberal, which for the most part, it is. That’s not fucking disputable.
I don’t have patience today bro. enjoy yourself.
You chose to quote one sentence out of the entirety of my initial post to retort to, a sentence which was a response to this:
I gave you a reply based on that retort. Don’t be so intellectually dishonest. You sound like a socialist.
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Need to bring out the crayons again.
When the media is FREE within a MARKET ECONOMY, it reflects on what the AUDIENCE WANTS.
If you believe in a real, extreme political divide, that means other conservative channels cannot enter the market because FOX HAS DOMINATED THE CONSERVATIVE MARKET, which is at 50 percent of the TOTAL market, which is more or less approximate to the amount of conservatives vs liberals.
If more conservative channels enter the market, they will be taking up FOX’S MARKET SHARE. Who is keeping them out of the market?
Get it?
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@greenboy I got this one bud – George Soros obvi … check and mate
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Don’t get our hopes up again.
Well, let’s review that, since it has come up…
And your response was:
Not bad. Entirely typical to make a narrow observation into a such a hyperbolic absolute statement though.
Next:
I honestly don’t know what to do with that. I stick primarily to reality based TV (discovery Channel, documentaries) a couple of Netflix series, and Seal Team- where they machine gun the fuck out of brown people at least once per episode.
Because regular network TV sucks. It’s also probably very progressive, but more importantly, try as I did to annhialate my frontal lobe, I just couldn’t damage it badly enough to tolerate that kind of stupidity. So, somewhat agree.
Which goes back to lobbing shit bombs. Thinking women hold too much sway in society, can’t think for themselves (follow trends) etc. Has nothing to do with pushback toward a contemporary political movement or lack of entertainment options. It is much older. It goes back to women being a possession and treated like human chattel.
That’s where we keep running into a problem.
It also gives away virtually all power that a person may have over choices. “They aren’t mysoginistic assholes. Some guy on YouTube made him that way!”
And not only are you applying it to others, as per the fact that the post was directed to you- You’re applying it to yourself.
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So, let’s clarify it then:
Thinking women hold too much sway in society
It’s not that women have held too much sway in society, it is that the powers that be, the movement, is trying to create a false narrative that women in the West have been too oppressed and not given what they are rightfully owed. It is nonsense. Just like the wage gap is pure nonsense. The swing now is to hire women, just cuz they are women, pay them more, just because they are women, and so forth. And if they don’t get their way it is because of the patriarchy. I find that to be a problem, don’t you?
Also, I do believe that women have all the dating power in the U.S. I think they are overwhelmingly in control of that scene more than ever before. Not only because they now starting to earn as much as their male counterparts (and have been in a lot of places), but because dating apps/social media have given them this false sense of entitlement, that there’s so many men to choose from and so much attention given to them, that they always think they deserve better than what they get. They always want more.
can’t think for themselves
Most people can’t think for themselves, but since women hold most of the purchasing power in our economy (they do most of the buying even if they aren’t the ones earning the money) they tend to be the ones most coveted by marketers, and corporations trying to sell shit. Get the woman, you have the household.
And women tend to like really dumb fucking shit, or is it the men that are responsible for the Kardashians being so fucking wealthy for doing virtually nothing? Just because I can recognize that my girlfriend enjoys pop music, light hearted romantic comedies that are cliche as fuck and terribly written doesn’t mean I’m going to come home and beat her, and call her a piece of shit woman… frankly, I could careless and sometimes even prefer if they do not share the same taste in things, such as music, why? because in my experience a girl that likes the same music I do, or likes overly complex or abrasive music tends to be too quirky or peculiar for my taste. They are the ones that will have strong opinions about things I rather not get involved in fighting with my gf about… like politics. (this is based on my experience)
It also gives away virtually all power that a person may have over choices. “They aren’t mysoginistic assholes. Some guy on YouTube made him that way!”
Yes, ultimately in the end every individual should be responsible for their actions. But I like to talk about how that individual may have gotten there, and if society is to blame at all for it. I bet you Flap will lose his shit if we said that people of color are individually responsible for their social economic standing, and that hundreds of years of slavery play no part anymore, systemic racism is not to blame for anything going on in todays world… now imagine that argument?
This is how I see the incel movement. There is a ton of varied reasons for it, but for the sake of focusing on specific ones, I choose to talk about (in here in this thread) the ways I think society pushes our female counterparts, and the effects it is having in general.
One of the things that I will make sure to do if I ever do have a daughter is to make sure she knows how to treat a man, because in the West there is ZERO focus on that. ZERO. It’s all about how the boys must treat the girls, and not a single drop of attention to the flip side.
You have evidence for this? I can think of the google issue off hand but it never really came out why and they immediately fixed it. I’d hesitate to link that alone to some massive movement even if we ignore the historical incidences of women being paid less. Then again I know how you like your a few=everything type arguments.
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