Molyneux on Incels

I was just cracking a joke but that’s seriously good to hear. I don’t believe there is any higher calling than raising children. It is always pleasant to hear about people doing it well.

I wanted to come back to this point.

I’m not sure about NYC and Long Island. I lived in Stamford, CT for most of my late 20’s. I spent far too much time working and not nearly enough time dating. I didn’t have a particularly tough time getting dates or making connections with females. I didn’t mange to secure a date with any of the area’s un-repulsive heiresses, but I suppose you can probably chalk that up to my rural Indiana upbringing, lack of money and country bumpkin ignorance.

I can tell you that the dress code in Maine is way more relaxed, but otherwise the same basic principles seem to apply. Talk to women, make a connection, exploit that connection for deviant sexual purposes, etc. That’s how it works everywhere I’ve lived, but I’ve never lived in NYC.

How do you think it might be different?

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“Finding oneself”, strikes me as a very common thing, and I wonder if trying just leads some people into leading directionless lives. I have been like that myself, and never had a relationship with a shared residence.

This also brings to mind the Neil Young song, 'Heart of Gold;… I’ve been searching for a heart of gold…and I’m getting old".

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@BrickHead
@twojarslave

do you guys believe in the old adage “you gotta slay some dragons to get to the princess” ?

I think many ‘Incels’ probably do have a sense of entitlement brought on by too much porn, everyone instagram looking like super models, etc.

And they most likely refuse these knowledge bombs passed down to them.

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You seem like you have a lot of issues with what you perceive women have going for them. I said earlier many incels are actually just woman haters and that isn’t a good way to get them. From your words and the way you’ve treated Emily it certainly seems like you have some big disdain for the ladies. Maybe you do maybe you don’t.
I haven’t followed this thread too close but I’m just saying what it feels from my viewpoint when I read your posts.

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If your viewpoint is in the minority isn’t isn’t it possible you’re just wrong?

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I’ve never heard that old adage before, so no. I don’t believe in it. If I were to stretch my imagination and look for the wisdom in the words, I suppose I would agree that struggling for a reward makes the reward more rewarding.

Could be. We really are in the middle of a massive medical experiment. What happens when we glue a generation’s face to a glowing rectangle that has all of the information in it?

Buy the ticket, take the ride.

It’s sad, I agree. One of these generations those young’uns are going to start listening. Let’s hook 'em up to glowing rectangles that have all of the information and set them loose in a whole new world filled with ways for teenagers to fuck with each other.

That’ll get them ready for the knowledge bombs.

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Have you seen the way Emily has treated me in here? as well as conversations with Brick which actually makes a real attempt in getting through to her? she talks down and lectures, even after being nicely asked to consider her tone.

I don’t have a problem with women, I have a problem with the modern feminist movement.

If your viewpoint is in the minority isn’t isn’t it possible you’re just wrong?

No, it’s possible people haven’t caught up yet. But I’m hardly the only one, and there seems to be a growing number of well published authors/writers/journalists/intellectuals whatever the fuck you want to call them starting to speak out about a problem they perceive to be growing.

@BrickHead has posted a few books, and articles on the matter.

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Not really. As I said I wasn’t paying too much attention and just skimmed the thread. I mean we have a thread from a video from a white nationalist on a topic that imo over all this time no one has still shown that it’s something new and horrifying. But I see the “women are the reason this is happening” stuff as a hallmark of a lot of this. I’m just saying it seems like you’ve got a lot of that coming out of you in this thread. And as I said I haven’t even read the whole thing. Just sharing what I picked up.

Ok so I guess you’ve got it answered then. If you have a minority opinion in this thread and you can’t possibly wrong then as you said the issue must be with us.

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Oh, were you there when Jim transferred over?

(I just want to see if anyone happens to get the reference, haha.)

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I’m definitely not claiming everything I say is correct. I’m just saying I notice something happening, and I have my beliefs that some of it is attributed to the feminist movement, the way young women are raised to be entitled, and how boys are continuously being diminished.

There are other issues like porn, social media, and a bunch of other factors that contribute to this problem.

This is the first part I saw. I actually went back and looked at f.

You said leave it to a user to derail a thread. She replied with leave it to him to share his views. Then you call her stupid as fuck and have a little hissy fit about how you’re sick of her or something.

Unless a bunch of stuff was deleted before that. Like I said I caught that when I first skimmed.

It just sounds like you’ve got bags of the woman rage you carry around. Maybe you don’t. I’m simply sharing what it sounds like to me.

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Yup! Even after I sincerely apologized for past bad behavior, complimented her, and agree with her on some points. I even once said if she lived nearby and someone needed a social worker, I’d recommend her.

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When someone says have you seen the way she treated me I went back to take a look. And it’s him calling her stupid as fuck.

I just said when I read someone’s posts in an incel thread they come off as being anti-women. And one of their first posts to a woman in the thread is telling her she’s stupid as fuck it doesn’t look real good.

I don’t know much about history or anything after that like I said I’ve only skimmed the thread. I’m simply saying what he has come off like to me in this thread. I realize you guys are close or something but not everything needs defended.

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I understand. I don’t want to start anything.

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Wasn’t my intention either. I don’t know many people that don’t post in PWI often and I think this thread was moved here. I was merely telling him how his words came off to me. I’m not even saying I’m right but that’s what I pick up from it.

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Understood. This thread wasn’t there first instance of these ‘chats’. This goes back a few months now.

He worked for Vince.

A big problem with this thread is no one has defined what an incel is, or rather, posters have provided their own definitions (because that’s what people do theses days).

An incel, as it is commonly used today, refers to a man who not only isn’t getting the sex he feels he is entitled to but who also believes it is the fault of women. It is a movement that is misogynistic and also antisemitic, racist and white nationalist/supremacist. It is no coincidence that these seemingly unrelated belief systems have become part of the incel movement as Molyneux himself is partially to blame for that. He has a market of followers to whom he has spoon fed these silly but also dangerous and unhealthy ideas. They go on their forums and complain about everyone and just get angrier.

Then you have those who are simply still virgins at an age when someone (I don’t know who) determined that it is not normal. There could be different reasons for this. Obviously the reasons that seem to be more relevant to this thread, and have nothing to do with Molyneux’s dumb ideas, are the seeming difficulties people of both sexes are having with meeting someone to have a meaningful and intimate relationship with.

Based on my personal experience and observation, so no, it’s not scientific, it appears that younger people lack basic social skills. They find it harder to talk to people who they don’t know or who aren’t online. Maybe they have difficulties picking up on visual cues since they communicate so much online. They don’t know how the real world works or how real people actually interact so when they find themselves in the real world, they come off as dim witted. They lack personality because they never experienced those things which help us develop one. Those things being the highs and lows of life.

They are depressed because they have nothing to really be depressed about. They are bored because they are boring. Maybe it’s partially the result of growing up micromanaged by parents and schools. Maybe the internet and so called reality TV have given them a false impression of reality and the fact that it requires work. Seeing someone with no talent have a YouTube channel that gets million of subscribers and earns a lot of money doesn’t exactly inspire someone to work hard. Seeing a Kardashian who is famous for being famous, and wealthy, and realizing that if you want success it won’t be that simple, doesn’t seem fair. I don’t know what all of the reasons are for people these days being incapable of having a conversation (or not having anything that is worth talking about anyway) but I do believe it is a problem.

Incels are a problem because they might just kill a bunch of people. Molyneux does nothing to remedy this because they are his meal ticket just as Alex Jones depends upon the type of people who will harass parents of Sandy Hook victims.

The other group are an issue because we are all humans and it should bother us to see that some of us are sad and struggling with reality.

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Wait, now I think we’re talking about different things.

He worked for WWE, not for a company that make mufflers, or is it mittens?