Define white, because the only white people I have ever seen were albinos. If you have a tan, are you white? Olive skin? White is a vague term that can include almost anything.
This is not new. You want a cookie?
Is that English?
@deandre_va_der_saar
You seem like a good guy. What be your race? Z has implied incels are mostly white. Do you have any insight on no-ass-gettinâ brothers?
However, you keep telling people who is white and who isnât. Youâre even telling people who claim they arenât white that they ARE WHITE. Like BrickHead.
Why donât you go to Algeria and see how white those guys are.
You got some issues, donât ya, boy?
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He did? Somebody should tell him.
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Let me explain it slowly. Dictionary⊠has words⊠has definitions for those words. I refer to those definitions.
Becasue (some) WASPs called blacks, Irish, Italians, etc., monkeys and apes, I should use their definitions?
Why? It will change the dictionary?
Z is a douche, from what I read so far I think heâs just trolling. I mean, he has to.
Or else this guy needs serious help.
About Incels being mostly white, thatâs crap. Ask Asians males. Even the Asian chicks wonât touch them.
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Yeah, no shit. But what is the dictionary definition for white as it relates to race?
That explains the fact there are over a billion Chinese.
I believe heâs referring to the dating scene in the West.
Iâm sure he has some scientific proof for his cliched assertions.
Guys who are shy, project weakness, and seem all around insecure, all have problems getting ladies, no matter what race or colour.
I have a friend who always had attractive girls orbiting him (he was really good looking, no homo) but he was so shy that he never took advantage back then.
I mean, they gave him really obvious signs and all, I could see it, he could see it, he just was to shy to pull the trigger. Now heâs going through an early mid-life crisis, wonât stfu reminiscing about that.
On the other hand, I have another buddy, now heâs one ugly motherfucker (heâs fit but damn, his face is a trainwreck), crass as fuck, cat calls and feels up chicks in bars, gets in fights because of it.
He strikes out 90 out of a 100 times but heâs so shameless that he has scored some surprisingly good looking women. Mostly gross looking ones, but some good looking.
Point is, its not about race, or even looks (it counts but not as much), but personality.
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Of course, and he knows that.
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My apologies, youtube is blocked at work, so I havenât yet watched the video.
Any cliffs?
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@deandre_va_der_saar
Cliffâs: the following has created a portion of the male population in the West to be assed out, literally:
Hypergamy
Unrestrained female sexuality
Crass and hardened female behavior
Welfare state
Broken households
Pretty serious subjects actually.
True ⊠looks help but personality is more important long term ⊠if give it 90/10 personally/looks
You should have added (or simply stated): itâs mostly the fault of women.
And why say itâs the West? It seems like an American issue.
The fault is on both sexes. Thatâs why I didnât add that
Because itâs throughout the West.
Okay thank you.
I will try to adress that later, but in the meantime I can tell you Iâm all for âUnrestrained female sexualityâ. No one should have their sexuality restrained, male of female. Assuming one made no compromises to someone else, obviously.
Shit the older I get the more Iâm starting to realise that.
I canât imagine myself having sex with a 50 year woman with cellulitis and saggy tits even when Iâm 60.
Unfortunately itâs becoming less and socially acceptable to be parading around young poon, especially when your married friends invite you to a barbecue or a pool party.
Their wives get sour and sometimes scold you after you few drinks.
Look at your list: it puts a lot of blame on women. Also, knowing the source (and again, other posters can confirm this so donât think itâs just me), he does indeed blame women.
You donât know that, so why say it?
Whether incels are all dangerous, or some just âdepressed and despairing,â as Douthat put it, whatâs certain is that they didnât invent the word: They took it over. It has roots in online use going back more than 20 years, and, as is often the case with hateful words, began its life in a harmless fashion. It was coined in the late 1990s by a Canadian woman named Alana (she asked that her last name not be used in this story) when she was volunteering for a not-for-profit internet provider based in Ottawa after she graduated from Carleton University. In May 1997, she posted in a local Usenet newsgroup: âIf you have had life-long difficulty starting dating or forming relationships, you might like to check out my new web page.â She provided a link to a personal site that she titled, âAlanaâs Involuntary Celibacy Project.â
On the site, [early versions ]of which are preserved on the Internet Archiveâs Wayback Machine, Alana revealed, âI donât really like the term âinvoluntary celibacy,â but havenât found a good alternative either.â While she kicked around [other possible terms ] (like âperpetually singleâ or âdating-shyâ), none of them seemed to do the trick. In October 1997, she announced on Usenet that she had started a mailing list devoted to involuntary celibacy. As was typical of electronic mailing lists of the day, she gave it an abbreviated name: âINVCEL.â
Alana told me that she and the other mailing list participants began using âinvcelâ as a shorthand term for either âinvoluntary celibacyâ or âinvoluntary celibate,â before it became clear that they needed something that was easier to pronounce. One participant suggested removing the âv,â and âincelâ was born.
On a version of Alanaâs website [archived from May 1999], it was clear that incel had taken over in the small community, though it still required clarification. âIncel is an invented term, so there is no official definition,â she explained on the site. She distinguished âtwo distinct, though related, categories: single and married incels,â and tackled such questions as, âIf a single incel starts dating, are they a former incel?â
The appeal of the term, Alana recalls, was that it seemed neutral and nonjudgmental. âThe concept of being a lonely virgin is not a nice identity,â she said. âFinding a more friendly term helped people say, âHey, I belong to a group. Iâm not alone.â And by belonging to a group, people can help each other.â
After a few years, Alana moved on from the community she created and she passed off much of her online content to [a new site] maintained by someone she did not know. It was only in 2014, when the Isla Vista killings were in the news, that she realized what had happened to the word incel over the years. It had become hijacked by people like the killer, Rodger, who [used it on message boards ] to justify hatred of women based on being sexually rejected. Whereas the 1990s incarnation of the term had been inclusive regardless of gender and sexuality, the new incel culture was rigidly patrolled by the indignant young men typifying the so-called manosphere.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/08/intel-involuntary-celibate-movement-218324