Great points Mak and Tex.
Mufasa
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
You have a good point here. A lot of the “democrats” I speak to tell me their support for Obama was generally a knee-jerk reaction to the fact that the Republicans had Bush for so long and were looking to replace him with someone who seemed too similar.
The other deciding factor was Palin. I know some of the people here still have a raging hardon for the witch, but she cost the Republicans an election. Given how close the voting came out, and the controversy surrounding Palin, it’s not rocket surgery to see this. Take Palin away in '08 and today we’d be discussing President McCain.
If the Republican party puts someone forward that is young, only slightly right of center, they have a real shot at winning (with the right campaign, obviously). The next step for them should they win is to stay the course and not shift right back to extreme right-wing, otherwise they’ll never see a Presidency again.
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I think whichever candidate can appear more central, whether slightly left or right, will have the greatest chance of winning. Poll numbers I have seen show the majority of voters are in the center and are sick of the extremes of both groups. Mobilize the middle and that candidate can win. [/quote]
This ^^ describes me to a tee.
I am just as sick of the far right as the far left…if not more, the GOP has spent their congressional advantage taking shots at the President/building re-election war chests/sitting on their ass…instead of dealing with real problems.
I hate FOX News just as much as MSNBC at this point.
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Especially after the GOP won the recall in Wisconsin. Don’t think Obama wasn’t paying attention to that. [/quote]
I tend to look at those results a different way.
As in “How many incumbent state reps were defeated?” Only two, so it shows that even in a recall with tempers blowing up all over the place the incumbents still were able to remain in place.
Just proving if you have the seat it is hard to take it away.[/quote]
I agree with this. Next week, 2 Dem seats are up for recall. If those seats go to the GOP, I think that would speak loudly.
A battle was won, but the war is nowhere near over.
From the political attitude here in California, I am starting to think that we will see some fireworks here in California.
Just announced today, our fake budget passed by Dems is already falling short. $4 Billion was assumed on “windfall revenues” (which is the PC way of saying, “we have no fucking idea where this money is going to come from”). A court order for an audit was called, and the assembly speaker is denying to follow the court order. Some awesome shit jumping off around here.[/quote]
I just spent several weeks in your state on vaca and got to see (and hear this from my Grandfather) first hand.
It is pretty rediculous how they are just making up numbers as they go (kind of like the fearless leader of the teleprompter in DC).[/quote]
What our Dems and state legislature do here is downright Bernie Madoff style of “cooking the books.” Madoff would be proud. They are assuming money will fall from the sky, and people here are seriously fucking pissed off. Assuming the windfall revenues do not arrive, more cuts to education and social programs are expected to come. Yet we passed the California Dream Act. So while everyone is screaming about cuts, Governor Moonbeam just allowed subsidized college tuition for illegal aliens. We need a zombie apocalypse already.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Especially after the GOP won the recall in Wisconsin. Don’t think Obama wasn’t paying attention to that. [/quote]
I tend to look at those results a different way.
As in “How many incumbent state reps were defeated?” Only two, so it shows that even in a recall with tempers blowing up all over the place the incumbents still were able to remain in place.
Just proving if you have the seat it is hard to take it away.[/quote]
I agree with this. Next week, 2 Dem seats are up for recall. If those seats go to the GOP, I think that would speak loudly.
A battle was won, but the war is nowhere near over.
From the political attitude here in California, I am starting to think that we will see some fireworks here in California.
Just announced today, our fake budget passed by Dems is already falling short. $4 Billion was assumed on “windfall revenues” (which is the PC way of saying, “we have no fucking idea where this money is going to come from”). A court order for an audit was called, and the assembly speaker is denying to follow the court order. Some awesome shit jumping off around here.[/quote]
I just spent several weeks in your state on vaca and got to see (and hear this from my Grandfather) first hand.
It is pretty rediculous how they are just making up numbers as they go (kind of like the fearless leader of the teleprompter in DC).[/quote]
What our Dems and state legislature do here is downright Bernie Madoff style of “cooking the books.” Madoff would be proud. They are assuming money will fall from the sky, and people here are seriously fucking pissed off. Assuming the windfall revenues do not arrive, more cuts to education and social programs are expected to come. Yet we passed the California Dream Act. So while everyone is screaming about cuts, Governor Moonbeam just allowed subsidized college tuition for illegal aliens. We need a zombie apocalypse already. [/quote]
Gov. Moonbeam lol
Teh lulz…