[quote]FarBeyondDriven. wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
OP? How bored or boring are you that this is what you do for amusement and then are hoping to get other people to join you?
I just don’t spend that much time thinking about other people.
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Why do that when I could be thinking about myself 
haha.
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Exactly.
OP, Inname,… amigo
here you go
I am all for the discussion. But do you consider “mockery” discussion? C
[quote]FarBeyondDriven. wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
OP? How bored or boring are you that this is what you do for amusement and then are hoping to get other people to join you?
I just don’t spend that much time thinking about other people.
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Why do that when I could be thinking about myself haha.
[quote]Nancy Boy wrote:
[quote]FarBeyondDriven. wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
OP? How bored or boring are you that this is what you do for amusement and then are hoping to get other people to join you?
I just don’t spend that much time thinking about other people.
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Why do that when I could be thinking about myself haha.
Why do that when I could be thinking about OctoberGirl?
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good response, a PM boobie pic to that man
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]Nancy Boy wrote:
[quote]FarBeyondDriven. wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
OP? How bored or boring are you that this is what you do for amusement and then are hoping to get other people to join you?
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Actually no I dont have a gut, Iam way over my 30’s and I am a Powerlifter not just a bencher. Just because someone is obese doesn’t and shouldn’t be reason to mock anyone. Memento, the reality of it is that as you get older the metabolism slows, so yes many will end up fat and not due to glanular issues either so how is that contradictory? Someone lets a door go in front of me I would guess that they didn’t have eyes in the back of their head. My point is that not all people are fat because they are lazy. So what is your point?
I would guess that you are in your twentys and live at home and spend 2 hours a day on a treadmill and read Oxygen or some such mag. I won’t mock you though I have empathy.[/quote]
My point is merely that I dislike the glandular argument, it’s a cop out. Last time I heard it was from a 400 pounds 5’2 obese guy drinking beer like there was no tomorrow, eating nothing but crap, moping about how a girl didnt like him, and only breaking from all of this to do lines of blow and K. This is obviously an extreme example and I’m glad I only had to put up with this person for a day. My point is even if it is a glandular issue I disagree with wearing it like a medal. Some people use it as an excuse to not even try.
Obviously there are SOME people that cannot help their own cause due to hormonal or glandular issues but to use the slim miniority to justify the rest is a logical fallacy often trotted out.
I also dislike when older people say, your not old enough yet, you’ll see, your doomed to gain gain weight. I always hear this from middle aged men who do in fact now have a belly.
If it has not happened to you I applaud you and I don’t blame you your cynicism about my generation. But I think it only fair you wait to see if I actually am overweight at 40 before you paint me as doomed to let my willpower slip.
Also as a side not Bencher, I’m not agreeing that obese should be mocked into losing weight, I just don’t like it when people use these 2 arguments. I find they remove the burden of responsibility from where it should lie. Thats why I responded directly to you.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
OP, Inname,… amigo
here you go
I am all for the discussion. But do you consider “mockery” discussion? Come on fella, you aren’t a teenager trying to be cool for your amigos. Or are you? I don’t actually know if you are a high schooler. You could be.
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ten bucks says he is. if i win, just post your credit card number on this thread, and we will call it even. thanks.
Hi OP. Fuck you.
Mocking the obese is a very bad idea. Im fat, but that does not mean im not strong or flexible. many fat people are stronger and more athletic than you think, and as someone said before, most fatties are sensitive about their weight.
I train heavy 5 days a week, and do cardio 4 days a week. When im not suffering from compartment syndrome in my calf i do Muay Thai 3 days a week. I eat lean meats, broccoli and shakes most of the day. I work my ass off every fucking hour of every fucking day to grow stronger, faster and leaner. You might not know by looking at me, but i have healthy life and the weight is dropping, and im getting stronger and faster each week.
So if some asshole like you were to start mocking me, making fun of me, making me feel like they are better than me because they have it easy, ill probably plant my shin in their face, or break their skinny leg.
Most people are the way they are because they don’t know any better. I sure didn’t know before someone told me. If you mock people they just get angry or sad, and your probably making the problem worse. If you don’t like fat people, why don’t you help them! teach em about training and nutrition and dieting.
Most people doesn’t want to be fat. They just dont understand how much it takes to drop the weight. it snot just calories in=calories out. Tell them about carbs, fats, proteins, insulin, leptin. just that is a pretty good start. and if you can’t be arsed, tell them about Tnation.
If you mock people, you are just an asshole who hates himself. don’t mock fat people. Don’t mock anyone.
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Actually no I dont have a gut, Iam way over my 30’s and I am a Powerlifter not just a bencher. Just because someone is obese doesn’t and shouldn’t be reason to mock anyone. Memento, the reality of it is that as you get older the metabolism slows, so yes many will end up fat and not due to glanular issues either so how is that contradictory? Someone lets a door go in front of me I would guess that they didn’t have eyes in the back of their head. My point is that not all people are fat because they are lazy. So what is your point?
I would guess that you are in your twentys and live at home and spend 2 hours a day on a treadmill and read Oxygen or some such mag. I won’t mock you though I have empathy.[/quote]
My point is merely that I dislike the glandular argument, it’s a cop out. Last time I heard it was from a 400 pounds 5’2 obese guy drinking beer like there was no tomorrow, eating nothing but crap, moping about how a girl didnt like him, and only breaking from all of this to do lines of blow and K. This is obviously an extreme example and I’m glad I only had to put up with this person for a day. My point is even if it is a glandular issue I disagree with wearing it like a medal. Some people use it as an excuse to not even try.
Obviously there are SOME people that cannot help their own cause due to hormonal or glandular issues but to use the slim miniority to justify the rest is a logical fallacy often trotted out.
I also dislike when older people say, your not old enough yet, you’ll see, your doomed to gain gain weight. I always hear this from middle aged men who do in fact now have a belly.
If it has not happened to you I applaud you and I don’t blame you your cynicism about my generation. But I think it only fair you wait to see if I actually am overweight at 40 before you paint me as doomed to let my willpower slip.
Also as a side not Bencher, I’m not agreeing that obese should be mocked into losing weight, I just don’t like it when people use these 2 arguments. I find they remove the burden of responsibility from where it should lie. Thats why I responded directly to you.[/quote]
x 10, those two arguments make me lose faith in humanity.
Two things about the glandular issue stuck out to me though, the first being that many obese people probably ate their way into metabolic syndrome and thus their pseudo-glandular issue, so it could theoretically be corrected with diet and exercise. And even if not, cant you get a prescription to fix and legitimate chemical imbalance that cant otherwise be corrected by diet (say, a faulty thyroid, get thyroxine supplementation). So to me the entire argument seems moot.
[quote]Defiance wrote:
Most people are the way they are because they don’t know any better. I sure didn’t know before someone told me.[/quote]
you didn’t know you were a fat sack of unhealthy shit until someone said, “hey there defiance, u’re kinda fat and lazy and shit” ??
do you need people to tell you should go to the hospital when you’ve been shot b/c you ‘didn’t know any better’?
Obviously no. I just mean most people don’t know how to eat healthy. people are stupid that way.
I thought i was eating normally healthy, but i have later realized the eating habits in my country are 200 years old. most people here eat more potatoes and bread in a week, than i do in a year
[quote]adamhum wrote:
what really bugs me is fat little kids, hello! Kids diet’s are controlled by their parents…Parents should teach their kids to be healthy and to have discipline.
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I’m really proud of my wife and myself in this regard. My first kid is almost two and her favorite meal is steak with broccoli and sweet potatoes. She only gets sweets every now-and-then in small quantities.
[quote]Defiance wrote:
Obviously no. I just mean most people don’t know how to eat healthy. people are stupid that way.
I thought i was eating normally healthy, but i have later realized the eating habits in my country are 200 years old. most people here eat more potatoes and bread in a week, than i do in a year[/quote]
I’ve said this before in this thread, but lack of knowledge is ultimately the result of laziness too. The info is out there, it takes a minimum effort.
[quote]Defiance wrote:
Obviously no. I just mean most people don’t know how to eat healthy. people are stupid that way.
I thought i was eating normally healthy, but i have later realized the eating habits in my country are 200 years old. most people here eat more potatoes and bread in a week, than i do in a year[/quote]
This argument implies that thin, healthy people are born smarter and more knowledgeable than those that become fat. It is even more damaging than what the OP has to say. I changed my diet long before my parents. No one is responsible for the food I eat or choose not but me. Same goes for anyone with BF% over 20.
You’ve obviously learned now so you know it’s possible when you take the iniative.
Who cares, it’s the fucking internet, we can mock fat people all we want. I don’t suggest anyone actually mock fat people in person, it’s rude and you most likley DONT know thier personal situation. It is always better to help a person, but there is no shame in mocking a faceless mass (pun intended) of fatties who suck at life and deserved to have thier class of people mocked in general. Just like I won’t make fun of a gay person, but I’m sure as hell going to make fun of gays in general. Anyone who does things that I think are stupid and there is enough of them to have a “group” I will make fun of the group as a whole because I think the behavior or whatever is stupid. Especially on an anonymous internet board. However, if it is a singular person and I am interacting with them, I am going to be poitle, share my views in an appropriate manner and offer any help should they want or need it of me.
What am I supposed to do, Repress my feelings that people should not try to evolve into a fucking walrus or elephant seal? I mean maybe we should ship all the fatties up to alaska where their blubber will actually be a natural advantage for them. Plus there is a lot of ice, so they can slide around much more easily. Just imagine not having any morbidly obese people at the beach fucking up my viewing pleasures with thier too tight one peice or even worse too tight two peice that is playing hide and seek.
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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Who cares, it’s the fucking internet, we can mock fat people all we want. I don’t suggest anyone actually mock fat people in person, it’s rude and you most likley DONT know thier personal situation. It is always better to help a person, but there is no shame in mocking a faceless mass (pun intended) of fatties who suck at life and deserved to have thier class of people mocked in general. Just like I won’t make fun of a gay person, but I’m sure as hell going to make fun of gays in general. Anyone who does things that I think are stupid and there is enough of them to have a “group” I will make fun of the group as a whole because I think the behavior or whatever is stupid. Especially on an anonymous internet board. However, if it is a singular person and I am interacting with them, I am going to be poitle, share my views in an appropriate manner and offer any help should they want or need it of me.
What am I supposed to do, Repress my feelings that people should not try to evolve into a fucking walrus or elephant seal? I mean maybe we should ship all the fatties up to alaska where their blubber will actually be a natural advantage for them. Plus there is a lot of ice, so they can slide around much more easily. Just imagine not having any morbidly obese people at the beach fucking up my viewing pleasures with thier too tight one peice or even worse too tight two peice that is playing hide and seek.
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LOL @ image of a bunch of fat people sliding around on ice like penguins. My imagination is now running wild with it.
Thanks Vegita
Memento,sorry if I offended. I see many people both young and old come through my gym, there are some that come in to better themselves, and some that come in to look at the eye candy, (I do both). I personally don’t care what age/gender/race/body type someone is if they are working hard I admire the effort.
The fact is that once most of these people have something else better to do they take off for extended times, most times they come back in worse shape than when they started. I don’t like to hear people make excuses and wish they could get in better shape. It drives me nuts when someone is out of shape and telling me that they have a sore back otherwise they would do what I do. Mocking or ridiculing is not going to change anything, action is. Be a Big Brother or Big Sister and take a kid to the gym or out for a hike. Help a newbie with training or nutrition. Those things are energy well spent.
Dedicated people are few and far between and if you are dedicated for whatever you do then I hope it is lifelong and you continue to excel.
Vegita,I think that maybe the obese person who might be looking for info on a BB website might just care about a thread that mocks them. Unless you are perfect you shouldn’t throw rocks at glass houses.
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Memento,sorry if I offended. I see many people both young and old come through my gym, there are some that come in to better themselves, and some that come in to look at the eye candy, (I do both). I personally don’t care what age/gender/race/body type someone is if they are working hard I admire the effort.
The fact is that once most of these people have something else better to do they take off for extended times, most times they come back in worse shape than when they started. I don’t like to hear people make excuses and wish they could get in better shape. It drives me nuts when someone is out of shape and telling me that they have a sore back otherwise they would do what I do. Mocking or ridiculing is not going to change anything, action is. Be a Big Brother or Big Sister and take a kid to the gym or out for a hike. Help a newbie with training or nutrition. Those things are energy well spent.
Dedicated people are few and far between and if you are dedicated for whatever you do then I hope it is lifelong and you continue to excel.
Vegita,I think that maybe the obese person who might be looking for info on a BB website might just care about a thread that mocks them. Unless you are perfect you shouldn’t throw rocks at glass houses.[/quote]
Dood, of course I’m perfect, Which is exactly WHY I throw rocks. Also since I am peerfect my rocks always hit the target, allthough in this case, even someone who is only “good” would most likley hit the target every time. Seeing as the target is a big ole Fatty Mcgee.
Let me guess, you are such a crusader of the fat people of this planet that you wrote an angry letter to Mike Myers for having a character named “Fat Bastard” in his movie. Did you? No I didn’t think so, so unless you do that, don’t throw your anti stones at me for throwing stones. Or something.
Ok Ok, You win. I’ll stop throwing stones. But I will instead, throw cupcakes onto the freeway. Would that be a suitable alternative?
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[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Memento,sorry if I offended. I see many people both young and old come through my gym, there are some that come in to better themselves, and some that come in to look at the eye candy, (I do both). I personally don’t care what age/gender/race/body type someone is if they are working hard I admire the effort.
The fact is that once most of these people have something else better to do they take off for extended times, most times they come back in worse shape than when they started. I don’t like to hear people make excuses and wish they could get in better shape. It drives me nuts when someone is out of shape and telling me that they have a sore back otherwise they would do what I do. Mocking or ridiculing is not going to change anything, action is. Be a Big Brother or Big Sister and take a kid to the gym or out for a hike. Help a newbie with training or nutrition. Those things are energy well spent.
Dedicated people are few and far between and if you are dedicated for whatever you do then I hope it is lifelong and you continue to excel.
Vegita,I think that maybe the obese person who might be looking for info on a BB website might just care about a thread that mocks them. Unless you are perfect you shouldn’t throw rocks at glass houses.[/quote]
Also I think you meant if I live in a glass house, I shouldn’t throw stones. But as I have stated before, I live in a house with Titanium I-beams and a shell made out of layers of Titanium and kevlar sheets, making it very formidable, especially against a few rocks. Also if fatty wants to throw rocks at my house, he or she is more than welcome, I’m sure they would have to get real close to even make it to my house, and then when they turned to run away, I would just hit them with a firehose and make them fall over. When they are unable to get up, they would eventually make a blubbery wall around my house to prevent other people from getting to it. Climbing over a wall of fat people would be impossible, it would be like trying to climb a wall made out of quicksand. Impossible.
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i think i’m going gay for V