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Djwlfpack · March 14, 2008, 4:43am

Stopped by the gym tonight just to say “hey” to my instructor and some of the guys in class as I was on my way to a game. It was great seeing everyone again and the guys were all glad to see me and were asking when I was coming back.

Two guys received their purple belts, which was cool. I know both of them and know how much time they’ve put in, so the promotions were well-deserved.

It felt good to be in the gym, even for a few minutes. Made me realize how much I missed not only the training, but the camraderie with all the guys.

(fingers crossed) I’m hoping I can get to muay Thai class on Saturday. It’s more of a technique class, but will be perfect for me to get my feet wet again.

BJJ will still be “iffy” b/c of my work schedule, but I’ll try and fit it in when I can.

I’m also excited b/c I think this virus I’ve had for a month has finally cleared up. Today was the first day I really felt like my normal self.

Djwlfpack · March 14, 2008, 8:26pm

Today was the first quasi-MMA-based workout I’ve done in over a month. Did 20 min. of shadowboxing. Really focused on footwork and throwing my punches with evil intentions, instead of just flipping them out there.

Finished up with 12 min. of conditioning. Did 4, 3-min rounds of: 25 jumping jacks, 25 squats, 25 push-ups, 25 sit-ups. The goal was to make it through the circuit 3 times by the end of the round. Fell just short on the last circuit, but overall it was a good workout.

Big_Boss · March 14, 2008, 11:24pm

[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
Today was the first quasi-MMA-based workout I’ve done in over a month. Did 20 min. of shadowboxing. Really focused on footwork and throwing my punches with evil intentions, instead of just flipping them out there.

Finished up with 12 min. of conditioning. Did 4, 3-min rounds of: 25 jumping jacks, 25 squats, 25 push-ups, 25 sit-ups. The goal was to make it through the circuit 3 times by the end of the round. Fell just short on the last circuit, but overall it was a good workout.[/quote]

I finished a similar workout. I forgot family was coming into town tonight for HS Girls State Powerlifting Event tomorrow(cousin is competing),so I skipped class…but at least got some form of workout in.

JonnyTMT · March 15, 2008, 12:18pm

Started my weight training routine this week. First couple of days I was really depressed at the thought of no punching, kicking, kneeing, elbowing for 6 weeks (I LOVE hitting things haha), but I’ve decided to turn a negative into a positive and really work on my strength and power so when I start training again I will be better than ever.

Been doing pull ups, snatch, upright press, one arm bench press, bent over rows and dumbbell swings for power twice a week. Squats, RDLs, good mornings, leg curls three times a week and core work such as weighted sit ups, Saxon side bends, Russian twists etc every morning. On Saturdays I’m doing high rep work for muscular endurance and to improve blood flow. Also doing an hour and a half on the stationary bike everyday. Determined to not let this injury get me down!

nordikelt · March 16, 2008, 12:33am

For what it’s worth, I turn my hand past vertical only very rarely.

JonnyTMT · March 16, 2008, 3:35am

I keep my fist horizontal, the Thai trainers are really strict about it (ie 10 push ups every time any one throws a hook with the fist vertical).

A_Dizz · March 16, 2008, 5:09pm

I naturally throw my hooks vertically, but I feel like I get more power when I throw them horizontally. When I throw them horizontally I can feel my lats working more and I feel like I’m using more torque, so I try to do it as much as possible, but it’s hard to really think about that all the time especially during a sparring session.

-dizzle

slimjim · March 16, 2008, 8:48pm

I throw a hook with my hand horizontal…I think if my first boxing coach hadn’t been such a stickler for it I would probably lean towards throwing it vertical.

On an unrelated topic, I got to see Jeremy Williams fight another MMA match last night and I have to say, professional boxer’s (or former pro-boxers) have some ridiculous handspeed. He was fighting a guy who is more of a grappler, but the way he could move and fire his punches from any position impresses me everytime I see him fight…their footwork is unreal as well.

Donut62 · March 17, 2008, 12:14am

I would give a left nut to see David Tua hit someone in 4 ounce gloves.

Xen_Nova · March 17, 2008, 5:03am

fist vertical, keeps my shoulder covering my face more naturally… keeps elbow up so my arm is aligned and i get more power imo.

diff. strokes for diff. folks…

i was at a conference all weekend, i’ll update later… got tons to say but i need some shut eye

i met a strongman competitor this weekend who has a supplement company and stuff, hashing some ideas around and i may have a sponsor AND a trainer

here are some of his vids

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=prussa&search_type=

Djwlfpack · March 17, 2008, 8:29pm

FI,
I like to keep my fist horizontal when throwing hooks. I seem to generate more power that way, and it also just feels more natural to me to throw them that way.

Did another home workout today. Pretty similar to Friday’s workout: a lot of shadowboxing followed by some conditioning. My back was pretty sore over the weekend from Friday’s session; I forgot how much torque you put your body through when throwing punches.

Xen_Nova · March 17, 2008, 9:22pm

maybe i’m getting confused with this vertical horizontal thing

elbow------fist

thumb to the sky, palm facing me (NOT down) is how i throw hooks

though i throw body hooks different, i throw them kind of like uppercuts, and at an angle, like if i hit, i want to the force to go through you from where i hit to the opposite shoulder.

Rossitron · March 17, 2008, 9:31pm

Hooks to the head Ive always thrown Horizontal. To the body was vertical. Thats how I learned it in Thailand.

Xen_Nova · March 17, 2008, 10:31pm

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Xen Nova wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:

You got that right…thats exactly what I need. Hopeful it will pay off and I can actually get a fight here in Texas. Amatuer muay thai sucks in Texas right now. I’ve had two opponents back out on me…and NOT for injury reasons(cowards…lol).I might have to drop from 280lbs to 170lbs for someone to give me a damn fight around here! Or come out to Cali! I’m sure yall have some big boys for me.

Seriously…I’m considering trying to drop to 240-250lbs without overtraining and burning myself out(which actually happened this past summer). I know what I need to do…its just tweaking the balance between my actual training,weights/conditioning, and nutrition I having the biggest issue with.

Any tips…suggestions…would be appreciated. And make for a good…and IMO,an important discussion. That is,if it hasn’t been discussed already.

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Dude, if you want, come to cali sometime work with my coach for a few days and maybe he’ll corner you for some amateur MT… I’d be vouching for you though so dont make me look bad

I’ve had opponents back out before as well so i know how much that sucks and it has to be horrible for you because at least i had fights fairly consistently i know its not the same in texas. And especially at your weight. I’m between 155 and 170 all the time so i can always find someone…

worst was cutting to 155, and my buddy at 170 had to back out of his fight at 170 my opponent backed out of my fight so i opted to fight my buddy’s opponent, i wore 4 pairs of sweat pants and my shoes when i weighed in (and still won)

depending on your current bodyfat, 240 is pretty doable man just depends on your time frame as well.

in my opinion, cut everything except fight training to a minimum, lift 1-2x a week, and don’t do extra cardio (yet)… find out the minimum you can eat and still survive your workouts.

THEN start adding stuff in, more conditioning, sled dragging, and your strength training should be just that STRENGTH, eliminate high reps etc you basically just want to maintain your strength where its at right now. 3x3 and the such will be your friend.

monitor your calories and protein intake, BCAA’s between workouts and salads will keep you satieted… so you dont get too many calories but plenty of fiber, nutrients, and feel full.

basically you strip your workload down to the bare minimum, same with nutrition and build it back up slowly to where you’re used to eating at a minimum but your workload increases at a greater rate than the calories you eat… so you dont burn out but have time for your body to slowly adjust to doing a lot with just a little.

Big_Boss · March 18, 2008, 3:06am

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Xen Nova wrote:
Big_Boss wrote: