I just think its disgraceful someone had the gall to take someone great, like Martin Luther King Jr, who stood for something great, and put used his face in place of someone who stood for nothing, and regardless of the situation, was nothing more than a trouble maker and a perfect example of what King did not want folks to become.
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I just think its disgraceful someone had the gall to take someone great, like Martin Luther King Jr, who stood for something great, and put used his face in place of someone who stood for nothing, and regardless of the situation, was nothing more than a trouble maker and a perfect example of what King did not want folks to become.[/quote]
I had a HS history teacher that called this phenomena the, “Pop Monster.” No matter who you are, pop culture will eventually devour and ultimately shit you out.
He used Ozzy as an example, went from the Princess of Darkness to a rambling idiot on TLC or whatever.
This is basically the same thing.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
That’s a nice change of pace to read.
I’m wondering if she is being called an Uncle Tom on CNN yet?[/quote]
Dr. King would not have been invited to speak at this.
Dr. King was a Republican and what-would-now-be-called a Southern Baptist of the fundamentalist and evangelical variety. In short, he was pretty damn conservative.
As such, Dr. King has more in common with Col. Allen West (R-Florida) or Sen. Tim Scott, (R-S.C.) – ironically the only sitting black US Senator — neither of whom were permitted to speak because, as conservatives, they were deemed “too controversial.”
In reality, the Apartheid Democats who ran the show did not want blacks who have left the Democrat plantation speaking. Only house-trained blacks were permitted to perform.
And Dr. King was not a house-trained black.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I just think its disgraceful someone had the gall to take someone great, like Martin Luther King Jr, who stood for something great, and put used his face in place of someone who stood for nothing, and regardless of the situation, was nothing more than a trouble maker and a perfect example of what King did not want folks to become.[/quote]
I had a HS history teacher that called this phenomena the, “Pop Monster.” No matter who you are, pop culture will eventually devour and ultimately shit you out.
He used Ozzy as an example, went from the Princess of Darkness to a rambling idiot on TLC or whatever.
This is basically the same thing. [/quote]
This is, indeed, a horrid phenomia.
But, to use another example, it’s really funny that Che Geuverra’s face is now a fashion statement for rich, clueless, white gentiles.
Hispanic is not a race. An Hispanic person can be a Caucasian. Even an African can be Caucasian.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
That’s a nice change of pace to read.
I’m wondering if she is being called an Uncle Tom on CNN yet?[/quote]
Dr. King would not have been invited to speak at this.
Dr. King was a Republican and what-would-now-be-called a Southern Baptist of the fundamentalist and evangelical variety. In short, he was pretty damn conservative.
As such, Dr. King has more in common with Col. Allen West (R-Florida) or Sen. Tim Scott, (R-S.C.) – ironically the only sitting black US Senator — neither of whom were permitted to speak because, as conservatives, they were deemed “too controversial.”
In reality, the Apartheid Democats who ran the show did not want blacks who have left the Democrat plantation speaking. Only house-trained blacks were permitted to perform.
And Dr. King was not a house-trained black.[/quote]
That’s faulty logic. Since people are the products of their times and experiences one cannot assume what MLK would or would not have believed, said or done had he lived at another time, under different conditions and circumstances.
One cannot assume that had he not been murdered and were still alive today that his views would not have changed over the course of 40+ years. Had he not been killed who knows what the state of race relations would be now?
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Hispanic is not a race. An Hispanic person can be a Caucasian. Even an African can be Caucasian. [/quote]
Hispanic or Latino - A person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race.
Are they a protected class or not?
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
That’s a nice change of pace to read.
I’m wondering if she is being called an Uncle Tom on CNN yet?[/quote]
Dr. King would not have been invited to speak at this.
Dr. King was a Republican and what-would-now-be-called a Southern Baptist of the fundamentalist and evangelical variety. In short, he was pretty damn conservative.
As such, Dr. King has more in common with Col. Allen West (R-Florida) or Sen. Tim Scott, (R-S.C.) – ironically the only sitting black US Senator — neither of whom were permitted to speak because, as conservatives, they were deemed “too controversial.”
In reality, the Apartheid Democats who ran the show did not want blacks who have left the Democrat plantation speaking. Only house-trained blacks were permitted to perform.
And Dr. King was not a house-trained black.[/quote]
That’s faulty logic. Since people are the products of their times and experiences one cannot assume what MLK would or would not have believed, said or done had he lived at another time, under different conditions and circumstances.
One cannot assume that had he not been murdered and were still alive today that his views would not have changed over the course of 40+ years. Had he not been killed who knows what the state of race relations would be now? [/quote]
My logic is more sound than the libertines who attempt to re-cast Dr. King into something he was not.
He was a Republican and a fundamentalist Christian.
Sure, he could have turned into a Christian and Jew-hating economic idiot like the speakers, but I doubt it. He was an older man at the time of his death and his politics and religion were undoubtedly well-entrenched; witness what he taught his daughter.
In all probability, given his past views, Dr. King would have been on Fox News with Col. West and Senator Scott denouncing the so-called current black leadership.
And he would have told people to pull up their fricken pants.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
That’s a nice change of pace to read.
I’m wondering if she is being called an Uncle Tom on CNN yet?[/quote]
Dr. King would not have been invited to speak at this.
Dr. King was a Republican and what-would-now-be-called a Southern Baptist of the fundamentalist and evangelical variety. In short, he was pretty damn conservative.
As such, Dr. King has more in common with Col. Allen West (R-Florida) or Sen. Tim Scott, (R-S.C.) – ironically the only sitting black US Senator — neither of whom were permitted to speak because, as conservatives, they were deemed “too controversial.”
In reality, the Apartheid Democats who ran the show did not want blacks who have left the Democrat plantation speaking. Only house-trained blacks were permitted to perform.
And Dr. King was not a house-trained black.[/quote]
That’s faulty logic. Since people are the products of their times and experiences one cannot assume what MLK would or would not have believed, said or done had he lived at another time, under different conditions and circumstances.
One cannot assume that had he not been murdered and were still alive today that his views would not have changed over the course of 40+ years. Had he not been killed who knows what the state of race relations would be now? [/quote]
My logic is more sound than the libertines who attempt to re-cast Dr. King into something he was not.
He was a Republican and a fundamentalist Christian.
Sure, he could have turned into a Christian and Jew-hating economic idiot like the speakers, but I doubt it. He was an older man at the time of his death and his politics and religion were undoubtedly well-entrenched; witness what he taught his daughter.
In all probability, given his past views, Dr. King would have been on Fox News with Col. West and Senator Scott denouncing the so-called current black leadership.
And he would have told people to pull up their fricken pants.[/quote]
Zecarlo was already admitting that King would have had to change his message, beliefs, and dreams to fit in with today’s liberals. That should tell you all you need to know.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would she be an Uncle Tom?
[/quote]
Because Contemporary American Liberals think all black people (and other minorities) need think they same because they are black.
Welcome to 2013 politics:
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/mark-tapson/how-the-left-keeps-blacks-in-line-the-stacey-dash-chapter/
But, I’m pretty sure you are well aware this goes on.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
That’s a nice change of pace to read.
I’m wondering if she is being called an Uncle Tom on CNN yet?[/quote]
Dr. King would not have been invited to speak at this.
Dr. King was a Republican and what-would-now-be-called a Southern Baptist of the fundamentalist and evangelical variety. In short, he was pretty damn conservative.
As such, Dr. King has more in common with Col. Allen West (R-Florida) or Sen. Tim Scott, (R-S.C.) – ironically the only sitting black US Senator — neither of whom were permitted to speak because, as conservatives, they were deemed “too controversial.”
In reality, the Apartheid Democats who ran the show did not want blacks who have left the Democrat plantation speaking. Only house-trained blacks were permitted to perform.
And Dr. King was not a house-trained black.[/quote]
That’s faulty logic. Since people are the products of their times and experiences one cannot assume what MLK would or would not have believed, said or done had he lived at another time, under different conditions and circumstances.
One cannot assume that had he not been murdered and were still alive today that his views would not have changed over the course of 40+ years. Had he not been killed who knows what the state of race relations would be now? [/quote]
My logic is more sound than the libertines who attempt to re-cast Dr. King into something he was not.
He was a Republican and a fundamentalist Christian.
Sure, he could have turned into a Christian and Jew-hating economic idiot like the speakers, but I doubt it. He was an older man at the time of his death and his politics and religion were undoubtedly well-entrenched; witness what he taught his daughter.
In all probability, given his past views, Dr. King would have been on Fox News with Col. West and Senator Scott denouncing the so-called current black leadership.
And he would have told people to pull up their fricken pants.[/quote]
Zecarlo was already admitting that King would have had to change his message, beliefs, and dreams to fit in with today’s liberals. That should tell you all you need to know.[/quote]
No he wasn’t. He was pointing out that time machine logic is faulty. I think MLK would have thought more like Bill Cosby than Al Sharpton if he were here today.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Hispanic is not a race. An Hispanic person can be a Caucasian. Even an African can be Caucasian. [/quote]
Hispanic or Latino - A person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race.
Are they a protected class or not?[/quote]
They are not a race.
I think I should have played the protected class card. If a guy named Zimmerman can do it then I surely could have.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Because Contemporary American Liberals think all black people (and other minorities) need think they same because they are black. [/quote]
But…many conservatives right here use language like “black community” and throwing things Sharpton said in my face as if we think the same.
I am confused why you think the “liberals” are doing this.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Because Contemporary American Liberals think all black people (and other minorities) need think they same because they are black. [/quote]
But…many conservatives right here use language like “black community” and throwing things Sharpton said in my face as if we think the same.
I am confused why you think the “liberals” are doing this.[/quote]
Every black commentator on liberal channels like MSNBC.
Sharpton and Jackson certainly seem to think they speak for the “black community”
You can see how we might be slightly confused.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
many conservatives right here use language like “black community” [/quote]
Must be their “white privilege” then?
Irrelevant anyway. This isn’t a school yard, two wrongs don’t make a right.
I think it because I’m paying attention.
A white lawmaker called Justice Thomas an Uncle Tom, not a single fuck was given outside of the conservatives that stood up for Justice Thomas. Give me a break with this.
My parents are a perfect example of the typical MA “liberal”. They have no problem dropping the N word or ordering “gook food”, but they don’t think they are bigots or racist, they vote Democrat after all.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Because Contemporary American Liberals think all black people (and other minorities) need think they same because they are black. [/quote]
But…many conservatives right here use language like “black community” and throwing things Sharpton said in my face as if we think the same.
I am confused why you think the “liberals” are doing this.[/quote]
Every black commentator on liberal channels like MSNBC.
Sharpton and Jackson certainly seem to think they speak for the “black community”
You can see how we might be slightly confused.[/quote]
?
You are “confused” about using one man to speak for an entire race?
Because someone needs to tell you that I am an individual that no one else speaks for?
Why would someone need to tell you that?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
many conservatives right here use language like “black community” [/quote]
Must be their “white privilege” then?
Irrelevant anyway. This isn’t a school yard, two wrongs don’t make a right. [/quote]
Not really the point when it is a NORMAL occurrence for me to have people acting like every black person has a hive mind.
Pretending that whites get treated this way on a grand scale is ridiculous.
[quote]
I think it because I’m paying attention.
A white lawmaker called Justice Thomas an Uncle Tom, not a single fuck was given outside of the conservatives that stood up for Justice Thomas. Give me a break with this. [/quote]
I’m sorry, but I am not even familiar with all the issues surrounding that matter. I would rather keep the topic on this.
All that does is tell me about your parents…not all white liberals.
Question…since you all keep using “Sharpton” as the hive mind speaker for us all…who is the speaker for the white race?
The only way any of you can justify even bringing Sharpton up to me in a discussion is if you have one who speaks for you as well.
So who is it?
Limbaugh?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Question…since you all keep using “Sharpton” as the hive mind speaker for us all…who is the speaker for the white race?
The only way any of you can justify even bringing Sharpton up to me in a discussion is if you have one who speaks for you as well.
So who is it?
Limbaugh?[/quote]
Worse. Peter Griffin.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
No he wasn’t. He was pointing out that time machine logic is faulty. I think MLK would have thought more like Bill Cosby than Al Sharpton if he were here today. [/quote]
Yeah, but we all know how well that went over when Cosby voiced his opinion on “black” culture.