I think the best division right now is the NL East. Braves with the Upton brothers and ofcoarse the Nats really good and exciting to watch. And the Mets don’t look too shabby with Harvey dominating (and throwing hard btw.)
Also, gotta love when shitty strike calls go your teams way.
With all this Doc is done talk, Matt Harvey’s pitching since he was called up last year has been great. Mets will be a team to be reckoned with come next year. Harvey, Wheeler and Niese will be formidable. On top of that the Mets will be spenders come next year in a better FA class.
Im just hoping my Yankees tread water until fully healthy. Luckily the new “has beens” have been hitting and it looks like Cano is coming out of his slump. CC didnt have his best stuff but gave us what we needed as well as Petite. Kuroda pitched well after a shitty first inning.
The thing is, there must have been about 150 pitches thrown to Rays hitters in that game. Let’s say that 85 of them were strikes, give or take. That’s PLENTY of opportunities to do something to win the game. To say that they lost due to a bad call on one pitch is asinine. They lost because they didn’t do enough with the other 84 hittable pitches.
The thing is, there must have been about 150 pitches thrown to Rays hitters in that game. Let’s say that 85 of them were strikes, give or take. That’s PLENTY of opportunities to do something to win the game. To say that they lost due to a bad call on one pitch is asinine. They lost because they didn’t do enough with the other 84 hittable pitches.[/quote]
True, statistically that was just one pitch out of 150. But they play nine innings for a reason, and that was the pitch and strike call that stopped a rally and ended the game. Zobrist laid off a tough 3-2 pitch that should have put a runner in scoring position in a one-run game. Would they have scored if the umpire made the right call? We’ll never know because the umpire robbed the Rays and their fans of that opportunity.
The thing is, there must have been about 150 pitches thrown to Rays hitters in that game. Let’s say that 85 of them were strikes, give or take. That’s PLENTY of opportunities to do something to win the game. To say that they lost due to a bad call on one pitch is asinine. They lost because they didn’t do enough with the other 84 hittable pitches.[/quote]
True, statistically that was just one pitch out of 150. But they play nine innings for a reason, and that was the pitch and strike call that stopped a rally and ended the game. Zobrist laid off a tough 3-2 pitch that should have put a runner in scoring position in a one-run game. Would they have scored if the umpire made the right call? We’ll never know because the umpire robbed the Rays and their fans of that opportunity. [/quote]
The way I look at it, the ump robbed them of one of 150 opportunities. I don’t know how many tough pitches they correctly laid off of or how many hits they had, but let’s say it was a total of 25. That still means they robbed themselves of 124 opportunities. 124 missed opportunities and you’re going to blame the ump for blowing the game due to robbing them of ONE opportunity?
The thing is, there must have been about 150 pitches thrown to Rays hitters in that game. Let’s say that 85 of them were strikes, give or take. That’s PLENTY of opportunities to do something to win the game. To say that they lost due to a bad call on one pitch is asinine. They lost because they didn’t do enough with the other 84 hittable pitches.[/quote]
True, statistically that was just one pitch out of 150. But they play nine innings for a reason, and that was the pitch and strike call that stopped a rally and ended the game. Zobrist laid off a tough 3-2 pitch that should have put a runner in scoring position in a one-run game. Would they have scored if the umpire made the right call? We’ll never know because the umpire robbed the Rays and their fans of that opportunity. [/quote]
I’m with DB on this one. Throughout any given game there are going to be bad calls. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don’t. Every once in a while, one of those bad calls come in a crucial situation. That’s the game and to avoid getting the short end of the stick, you’re better off not getting into a situation where 1 pitch can cost you the game, and every game provides plenty of opportunity to do that.
Over 162 game season, chances are the Rays will have a couple calls go their way and it should even out.
The thing is, there must have been about 150 pitches thrown to Rays hitters in that game. Let’s say that 85 of them were strikes, give or take. That’s PLENTY of opportunities to do something to win the game. To say that they lost due to a bad call on one pitch is asinine. They lost because they didn’t do enough with the other 84 hittable pitches.[/quote]
True, statistically that was just one pitch out of 150. But they play nine innings for a reason, and that was the pitch and strike call that stopped a rally and ended the game. Zobrist laid off a tough 3-2 pitch that should have put a runner in scoring position in a one-run game. Would they have scored if the umpire made the right call? We’ll never know because the umpire robbed the Rays and their fans of that opportunity. [/quote]
I’m with DB on this one. Throughout any given game there are going to be bad calls. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don’t. Every once in a while, one of those bad calls come in a crucial situation. That’s the game and to avoid getting the short end of the stick, you’re better off not getting into a situation where 1 pitch can cost you the game, and every game provides plenty of opportunity to do that.
Over 162 game season, chances are the Rays will have a couple calls go their way and it should even out. [/quote]
Exactly. In sports, the better team on that day is not only the one that scores the most points/runs, but is also the team that is in position to benefit from an instance of luck or a bad call. Bad teams don’t get lucky because they aren’t in position to be a beneficiary of luck.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Okay - I get what you guys are saying but come on.
Bad calls throughout a game aren’t usually atrociously bad. Normally they are either low/high or outside. This pitch was both low AND outside.
So I reject the idea of writing this pitch off as simply “one of those bad calls” because it wasn’t even close.
Watch the reply. If you still think this is a typical bad call made during a game you’re nuts.
No one is saying that this is a typical bad call. It’s one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen in ANY sport. But the severity of the bad call has no import on the result. In regards to the outcome, an understandably missed call has the same effect as one that no ump in his right mind should even have come close to. In the end, this one had no larger impact on the game than any other blown call that ended a game.
The thing is, there must have been about 150 pitches thrown to Rays hitters in that game. Let’s say that 85 of them were strikes, give or take. That’s PLENTY of opportunities to do something to win the game. To say that they lost due to a bad call on one pitch is asinine. They lost because they didn’t do enough with the other 84 hittable pitches.[/quote]
True, statistically that was just one pitch out of 150. But they play nine innings for a reason, and that was the pitch and strike call that stopped a rally and ended the game. Zobrist laid off a tough 3-2 pitch that should have put a runner in scoring position in a one-run game. Would they have scored if the umpire made the right call? We’ll never know because the umpire robbed the Rays and their fans of that opportunity. [/quote]
I’m with DB on this one. Throughout any given game there are going to be bad calls. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don’t. Every once in a while, one of those bad calls come in a crucial situation. That’s the game and to avoid getting the short end of the stick, you’re better off not getting into a situation where 1 pitch can cost you the game, and every game provides plenty of opportunity to do that.
Over 162 game season, chances are the Rays will have a couple calls go their way and it should even out. [/quote]
I agree that the Rays could have played better and kept them out of that situation in the first place.
As for the bad calls, game ending bad calls that stop a rally in a one-run game are much worse than bad calls in the earlier innings. It’s the difference of giving up a solo hr in the first inning in a 0-0 game, and giving up a hr in the bottom of the ninth in a 0-0 game. You can’t make up for that.
The thing is, there must have been about 150 pitches thrown to Rays hitters in that game. Let’s say that 85 of them were strikes, give or take. That’s PLENTY of opportunities to do something to win the game. To say that they lost due to a bad call on one pitch is asinine. They lost because they didn’t do enough with the other 84 hittable pitches.[/quote]
True, statistically that was just one pitch out of 150. But they play nine innings for a reason, and that was the pitch and strike call that stopped a rally and ended the game. Zobrist laid off a tough 3-2 pitch that should have put a runner in scoring position in a one-run game. Would they have scored if the umpire made the right call? We’ll never know because the umpire robbed the Rays and their fans of that opportunity. [/quote]
I’m with DB on this one. Throughout any given game there are going to be bad calls. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don’t. Every once in a while, one of those bad calls come in a crucial situation. That’s the game and to avoid getting the short end of the stick, you’re better off not getting into a situation where 1 pitch can cost you the game, and every game provides plenty of opportunity to do that.
Over 162 game season, chances are the Rays will have a couple calls go their way and it should even out. [/quote]
I agree that the Rays could have played better and kept them out of that situation in the first place.
As for the bad calls, game ending bad calls that stop a rally in a one-run game are much worse than bad calls in the earlier innings. It’s the difference of giving up a solo hr in the first inning in a 0-0 game, and giving up a hr in the bottom of the ninth in a 0-0 game. You can’t make up for that. [/quote]
That’s the nature of sports. Mistakes late in the game, by ANYONE, are magnified. But the reality is that the Rays were in plenty of positions earlier in the game to make a mistake late in the game mean far less than it ended up meaning.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Okay - I get what you guys are saying but come on.
Bad calls throughout a game aren’t usually atrociously bad. Normally they are either low/high or outside. This pitch was both low AND outside.
So I reject the idea of writing this pitch off as simply “one of those bad calls” because it wasn’t even close.
Watch the reply. If you still think this is a typical bad call made during a game you’re nuts.
Such a funny replay to watch. You see the catcher initially taking his mask off and walking to the mound to have a talk with the pitcher, then running in a mild celebration after he realizes it’s a strike, almost as if he’s trying to play it off so the ump doesn’t change his mind. Shortly after you clearly see an “oh wow” from Nathan.