[quote]johnman18 wrote:
That was a close one hey Raj? Bautista would really look better in a Red Sox uniform… that’s just my unbiased opinion haha :)[/quote]
Yeah heart breaking.
I don’t understand why you’d make the Bautista comment, he just signed a 5 year deal.
Encarnacion needs to take lessons from Scott Cousins.
^He’s gonna get sick of losing eventually… just saying.
[quote]johnman18 wrote:
^He’s gonna get sick of losing eventually… just saying.[/quote]
You’re a retard. These teams are in different stages of their development.
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[quote]johnman18 wrote:
^ You’re 25? Really? Oh, I forgot you’re Indian or Pakistani or some shit haha. [/quote]
Well if your goal was to see if you could get yourself on my ignore list congrats you did it.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Who’s going to be their long term solution at:
SS
DH
C
SP behind Phil Hughes and Sabathia
3B if A-Rod can’t produce at 37+
That’s a lot of positions needed to be fill solely with free agency. Judging by the way the yankees do business they will trade away Montero.[/quote]
The Yankees don’t really need long-term solutions at any of these positions. A-Rod will be their DH until they choose not to re-sign him or he retires. I believe they have a pretty good prospect at catcher in their minor league system, although his name fails me at the moment.
Nunez looks like he can swing it pretty well, but he looks like a hack at short. Jose Reyes is probably their long-term solution at SS. Their long-term solution at 3B could be anyone, and they don’t really need a long-term solution there if they can plug some other holes up. They did pretty well with Scott Brosius over there.
You’re right about pitching, though. The great Yankees teams in the past have typically had great pitching, especially in the 90’s. Nova may be the real deal at some point. But the Yankees have typically had a great farm system all these years, despite always drafting late, because they can afford to invest more in scouting and player development than anyone else. So as problematic as the future of their staff may look right now, it’s actually pretty likely that they produce a legit starter from their own system. They can also just sign whoever the fuck they want in the offseason, provided that free agents want to go there.
The bottom line is that with a revenue stream like the Yankees have, they’re always going to be in a better position than any other team to plug holes immediately, and in myriad ways.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Who’s going to be their long term solution at:
SS
DH
C
SP behind Phil Hughes and Sabathia
3B if A-Rod can’t produce at 37+
That’s a lot of positions needed to be fill solely with free agency. Judging by the way the yankees do business they will trade away Montero.[/quote]
The Yankees don’t really need long-term solutions at any of these positions. A-Rod will be their DH until they choose not to re-sign him or he retires. I believe they have a pretty good prospect at catcher in their minor league system, although his name fails me at the moment.
Nunez looks like he can swing it pretty well, but he looks like a hack at short. Jose Reyes is probably their long-term solution at SS. Their long-term solution at 3B could be anyone, and they don’t really need a long-term solution there if they can plug some other holes up. They did pretty well with Scott Brosius over there.
You’re right about pitching, though. The great Yankees teams in the past have typically had great pitching, especially in the 90’s. Nova may be the real deal at some point. But the Yankees have typically had a great farm system all these years, despite always drafting late, because they can afford to invest more in scouting and player development than anyone else. So as problematic as the future of their staff may look right now, it’s actually pretty likely that they produce a legit starter from their own system. They can also just sign whoever the fuck they want in the offseason, provided that free agents want to go there.
The bottom line is that with a revenue stream like the Yankees have, they’re always going to be in a better position than any other team to plug holes immediately, and in myriad ways.[/quote]
Austin Romine and Jesus Montero are the blue chip catching prospects.
And who knows about the other positions. It doesnt matter now and the yankees dont look 3+ into the future like other teams do. They just fill holes when needed. And if a prospect comes up and produces thats just a bonus. Nunez can hit, but he’s trash in the field. He’ll be an OF soon enough, possibly 3b.
Mark my words, Reyes will never wear a yankee uniform. He’s going to sign a 5+ year deal this offseason and I dont forsee his value remaining high enough at age 33 or whatever for the yanks to get him after this upcoming contract. SS is a fading position. Tulowitski may be the last great one we see for a little while ( I dont really like Hanley because he’ll never live down the lazy attitude he seems to have. And too soon to make a call on Castro)
A few things:
A-Rod is signed until 2017 so he isn’t retiring or becoming a free agent anytime soon.
The Yankees payroll has shrunk in recent years and they haven’t paid so little in luxury tax since 2003. If they want to keep their payroll under 210 it will effect their ability to sign players.
Although they can plug holes through free agency, they’ve relied heavily on 4 core future HOFers players basically since 1996. I think they’ll need to do one hell of a job in free agency over the coming years if they’re consistently going to field 90+ win teams. I don’t know much about current Yankee management, but the fact they tied Cashman’s hands and forced him to sign Soriano makes me wonder how much further they will fuck up this team.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
A few things:
A-Rod is signed until 2017 so he isn’t retiring or becoming a free agent anytime soon.
The Yankees payroll has shrunk in recent years and they haven’t paid so little in luxury tax since 2003. If they want to keep their payroll under 210 it will effect their ability to sign players.
Although they can plug holes through free agency, they’ve relied heavily on 4 core future HOFers players basically since 1996. I think they’ll need to do one hell of a job in free agency over the coming years if they’re consistently going to field 90+ win teams. I don’t know much about current Yankee management, but the fact they tied Cashman’s hands and forced him to sign Soriano makes me wonder how much further they will fuck up this team.
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Well, they’re in first place in the toughest division in baseball, so they must be doing something right.
^^^ I know
That’s why I was thinking they might have trouble dominating in the future. Not this year or next year. Their placing this year irrelevant to this discussion.
But it may not matter if they’re able to sign Prince Fielder or whoever the fuck else is young, available and top tier.
Pitching - The Yankees have Brackman (whose command has gone way down this year) and Banuelos at AAA, both of whom were top-50 overall prospects coming into the year (both their stocks have slipped, but they’re still prospects) --I’m not saying I think they’re top-50, but some prospect ranks had them there. If one of them works out and Hughes gets healthy, they’ll be OK with Sabathia and random vets on short term contracts.
However if all of Hughes, Brackman and Banuelos flame out they will be kinda stuck (unlikely but not impossible). They probably trade Montero to some team who needs a DH/1B, because I keep hearing how much he sucks at catching, and get some pitching for him.
All in all, they have pieces and dollars to play with, I don’t expect they’ll go anywhere. That being said I was a lot more confident when Hughes was throwing 90+ and dominating than I am watching him serve up 88mph meatballs over the heart of the plate.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^^ I know
That’s why I was thinking they might have trouble dominating in the future. Not this year or next year. Their placing this year irrelevant to this discussion.
But it may not matter if they’re able to sign Prince Fielder or whoever the fuck else is young, available and top tier.[/quote]
Their place in the standings is ENTIRELY relevant to the discussion. The methods and strategies that the front-office employed to put a first-place team on the field this year are the same that they’ll continue to use. So unless something about baseball drastically changes (such as the implementation of a salary cap or HUGE revenue taxes) that same strategy will be employed in the future. If we want to evaluate how they’ll do three years from now we need only evaluate what it is they’re doing right now. Is it working now? Yes, better than any other team in the history of professional sports. Will it continue to work? I don’t see why not.
Of course, it’s possible that they do go into the tank in the next few years, but it’s unlikely. Possible does not equal probable.
The yankee organization also have a great way of talking up their top prospects and pawning them off to small market teams, they have done this many times in the past.
Guys like…
Eric Milton (for knoblauck)
Russ Springer (for jim abbot)
Doug Drabeck (For rick rhoden ouch)
Drew Henson (for denny neagle well neagle didnt work out either)
Matt Drews (for Cecil Fielder)
While the notable yankee catching prospects are Montero and Romine, they also have Gary Sanchez who is rated higher than Romine, I dont think you will see Montero in a yankee uniform and one of the killer b’s will also be traded by the deadline.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
The yankee organization also have a great way of talking up their top prospects and pawning them off to small market teams, they have done this many times in the past.
Guys like…
Eric Milton (for knoblauck)
Russ Springer (for jim abbot)
Doug Drabeck (For rick rhoden ouch)
Drew Henson (for denny neagle well neagle didnt work out either)
Matt Drews (for Cecil Fielder)
While the notable yankee catching prospects are Montero and Romine, they also have Gary Sanchez who is rated higher than Romine, I dont think you will see Montero in a yankee uniform and one of the killer b’s will also be traded by the deadline.
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Don’t forget Austin Jackson for Curtis Granderson… that one’s workin out pretty well so far.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
The yankee organization also have a great way of talking up their top prospects and pawning them off to small market teams, they have done this many times in the past.
Guys like…
Eric Milton (for knoblauck)
Russ Springer (for jim abbot)
Doug Drabeck (For rick rhoden ouch)
Drew Henson (for denny neagle well neagle didnt work out either)
Matt Drews (for Cecil Fielder)
While the notable yankee catching prospects are Montero and Romine, they also have Gary Sanchez who is rated higher than Romine, I dont think you will see Montero in a yankee uniform and one of the killer b’s will also be traded by the deadline.
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maybe im just an idiot but who are the killer b’s ?
banuelos, betances, brackman?
^^^ I was wondering that too.
The commonly known Killer B’s = Steve Blake, Matt Barnes and Shannon Brown of LAL
If you hate jeter youll hate this. If you like him youll appreciate it. If you like stats your eyebrow will raise at the Joe D similarities
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
The yankee organization also have a great way of talking up their top prospects and pawning them off to small market teams, they have done this many times in the past.
Guys like…
Eric Milton (for knoblauck)
Russ Springer (for jim abbot)
Doug Drabeck (For rick rhoden ouch)
Drew Henson (for denny neagle well neagle didnt work out either)
Matt Drews (for Cecil Fielder)
While the notable yankee catching prospects are Montero and Romine, they also have Gary Sanchez who is rated higher than Romine, I dont think you will see Montero in a yankee uniform and one of the killer b’s will also be traded by the deadline.
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Don’t forget Austin Jackson for Curtis Granderson… that one’s workin out pretty well so far.[/quote]
Shit I forgot about the most recent one, good call!
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
The yankee organization also have a great way of talking up their top prospects and pawning them off to small market teams, they have done this many times in the past.
Guys like…
Eric Milton (for knoblauck)
Russ Springer (for jim abbot)
Doug Drabeck (For rick rhoden ouch)
Drew Henson (for denny neagle well neagle didnt work out either)
Matt Drews (for Cecil Fielder)
While the notable yankee catching prospects are Montero and Romine, they also have Gary Sanchez who is rated higher than Romine, I dont think you will see Montero in a yankee uniform and one of the killer b’s will also be traded by the deadline.
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maybe im just an idiot but who are the killer b’s ?
banuelos, betances, brackman? [/quote]
Yes sir, on a side note I was listening to the FAN and they were saying how Montero lost his job to Romine and is having a horrible season and Gary Sanchez has some legal woes.
So are we going to start a prediction pool on when Derek Jeter will hit # 3000? A little late I know. Maybe just a before or after the All Star Break.